Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Hi : Your son's TSH and free T3 levels appear hypothyroid or low thyroid. His free T4 is great. His free T3 should be in the upper quarter, or at 491 or above. Anybody with a TSH of over 2 is considered hypothyroid, now. He would qualify with the 3.03 level. Your T4 should be in the upper quarter, so is low. That should be corrected. But you really can't tell anything without the Free T3, which is the most important. The TSH, believe it or not, looks a little high. You are probably still borderline hypothyroid. Talk to M. on this board and she will help you. Good luck, [ ] thyroid levels My 7 year old son had the following thyroid test results: T3 free 365 (ref range 337-506) T4 free 1.5 (ref range 0.9-1.6) T3 total 176 (ref range 127-221) TSH 3.03 (ref range 0.70-6.4) He does not use thyroid hormone. Based on these levels, how do I determine if he should be using thyroid hormone and how would I determine the proper dosage? I currently use armour thyroid. My results are as follows: T4 free 0.9 (ref range 0.8-1.8) T3 total 119 (ref range 60-181) TSH 1.21 (ref range 0.4-5.5) T3 free was somehow skipped by the lab Do my levels look appropriate? I am planning to conceive and want to make sure my dosing is absolutely correct. Thanks for all help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 HI! - I recommend that you post these labs on NaturalThyroidHormones At groups DOT com The thryo-angels, there, helped me save my own life... The Free T3 was left on on purpose; " modern " mainstream labs /docs don't know how to diagnose or treat low thyroid. They wrongly put all their stock in the TSH test which doesn't test thyroid but rather pituitary " request " for thyroid hormone. www.canaryclub.org has saliva tests for thyroid, cortisol (4x/day is best), and other hormones. I don't know what you can do in your particular situation to obtain the Free T3 lab. I know one small trick for Kaiser HMO patients is to request Free T3 (FOR NON-DIALYSIS PATIENT.) I learned that from some generous soul on the internet. I order my own labs, now...I got fed up with going around in circles with the MDieties. DH, DD, and I, all got our own labs and we all take Armour Natural Thyroid and adrenal support for adrenal fatigue... What an improvement in my DD! Oh, I almost forgot, www.drrind.com is a great website to learn about taking and charting your temps for tracking symptoms... Do your levels look appropriate? How do you *feel*? Your labs look like you feel crummy even without the Free T3 numbers. .... On 2/3/06, JLJukoski@... <JLJukoski@...> wrote: > > My 7 year old son had the following thyroid test results: > T3 free 365 (ref range 337-506) > T4 free 1.5 (ref range 0.9-1.6) > T3 total 176 (ref range 127-221) > TSH 3.03 (ref range 0.70-6.4) > He does not use thyroid hormone. Based on these levels, how do > I determine > if he should be using thyroid hormone and how would I determine > the proper > dosage? > > I currently use armour thyroid. My results are as follows: > T4 free 0.9 (ref range 0.8-1.8) > T3 total 119 (ref range 60-181) > TSH 1.21 (ref range 0.4-5.5) > T3 free was somehow skipped by the lab > Do my levels look appropriate? I am planning to conceive and want > to make > sure my dosing is absolutely correct. > > Thanks for all help! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 I am in no way an expert, but I would interpret this as low conversion of T4 to T3. His T4 actually looks to me like is a little high-ish, and this might be because his body cannot convert it. If it was me, I wouldn't give him armour just yet. I would try first some supplements that would help his liver and kidneys to make the conversion better. Selenium would be a good choice. Also, if he is selenium deficient, the enzyme glutathione peroxidase might be low too, so supplementing selenium will also help his body detoxify hydroperoxides (which cause oxidative stress). But as I said, I don't really know what I'm talking about... I don't know in your case... You need the free T3 value to make some sense of these results. Valentina > My 7 year old son had the following thyroid test results: > T3 free 365 (ref range 337-506) > T4 free 1.5 (ref range 0.9-1.6) > T3 total 176 (ref range 127-221) > TSH 3.03 (ref range 0.70-6.4) > He does not use thyroid hormone. Based on these levels, how do I determine > if he should be using thyroid hormone and how would I determine the proper > dosage? > > I currently use armour thyroid. My results are as follows: > T4 free 0.9 (ref range 0.8-1.8) > T3 total 119 (ref range 60-181) > TSH 1.21 (ref range 0.4-5.5) > T3 free was somehow skipped by the lab > Do my levels look appropriate? I am planning to conceive and want to make > sure my dosing is absolutely correct. > > Thanks for all help! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 > > I finally got the lab results back for my dd on her thyroid levels. I > was told when I got them, to post them here so here they are: > > Thyroxine (T4) free 1.25 reference interval 1.0-1.7 > TSH 1.996 reference interval 0.460 - 8.100 > Triiodothyronine, free 3.5 reference interval (for her age) 3.0 - 6.0 > > She is 5 years old and 35 lbs. Hi Wyndie, See: /message/156470 (Andy's rec's for free T3 and free T4) 1 /message/65138 (pediatric ranges) I hope someone will correct me if the advice Andy gives for free T3 and free T4 in the message above is only for lead toxic kids. Different labs have different ranges. It might be worth asking for the age appropriate reference ranges from your lab. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 , I think the second link is the wrong message. Would you mind reposting if you can find the correct one? Thank you Wyndie > > > > I finally got the lab results back for my dd on her thyroid levels. I > > was told when I got them, to post them here so here they are: > > > > Thyroxine (T4) free 1.25 reference interval 1.0-1.7 > > TSH 1.996 reference interval 0.460 - 8.100 > > Triiodothyronine, free 3.5 reference interval (for her age) 3.0 - 6.0 > > > > She is 5 years old and 35 lbs. > > Hi Wyndie, > > See: > > /message/156470 > (Andy's rec's for free T3 and free T4) > > 1 /message/65138 > (pediatric ranges) > > I hope someone will correct me if the advice Andy gives for free T3 > and free T4 in the message above is only for lead toxic kids. > > Different labs have different ranges. It might be worth asking for > the age appropriate reference ranges from your lab. > > W. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Try this: /message/165138 (pediatric ranges) Sorry, W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 > The doc said this is normal, but I know pediatric ranges can be > different. The more research I do, the more she screams thryoid > issues, but if her tests say no, I don't know how to convince her doc > to let us try some armour. This site can give you some info on other things you can consider http://www.kroger.com/hn/Concern/Hypothyroidism.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 IMO, convincing a doc of the need for Armour when labs " look " normal is not easy. Try digging up relevant authority on the role of the thyroid and how important it is to have enough Free T3 for proper brain development, metabolism, etc. The consequences of having low Free T3 during development can be very signficant. Anne > > > > > > I finally got the lab results back for my dd on her thyroid > > levels. I > > > was told when I got them, to post them here so here they are: > > > > > > Thyroxine (T4) free 1.25 reference interval 1.0-1.7 > > > TSH 1.996 reference interval 0.460 - 8.100 > > > Triiodothyronine, free 3.5 reference interval (for her age) > 3.0 - > > 6.0 > > > > > > She is 5 years old and 35 lbs. > > > > > > The doc said this is normal, but I know pediatric ranges can be > > > different. The more research I do, the more she screams thryoid > > > issues, but if her tests say no, I don't know how to convince her > > doc > > > to let us try some armour. > > > > > > Thanks for any insight in this. > > > > > > Wyndie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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