Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 As we cycle the ALA, DMSA etc., redistribution happens on completion of a round but how would a tape of the ALA effect this? Instead of doing ALA at say 25mg all the way through to completion of the round, how would taping off at the end to say 12.5 work to eleviate some of the redistribution? Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Doesn't work because Ala gets into the brain and dmsa does not, so dmsa cannot " cover " for Ala. [ ] Redistribution Question As we cycle the ALA, DMSA etc., redistribution happens on completion of a round but how would a tape of the ALA effect this? Instead of doing ALA at say 25mg all the way through to completion of the round, how would taping off at the end to say 12.5 work to eleviate some of the redistribution? Lee ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 I think you misinterpreted my question so I will try to restate more clearly if that is possible for me to do. :-) What I wanted to know was would tapering off ALA after a round decrease the redistribution of Mercury? Example: Taking 25mg ALA for 3 days and then tapering to 12.5mg and then to 6.25mg for a day or two. Lee -- Re: [ ] Redistribution Question Doesn't work because Ala gets into the brain and dmsa does not, so dmsa cannot " cover " for Ala. [ ] Redistribution Question As we cycle the ALA, DMSA etc., redistribution happens on completion of a round but how would a tape of the ALA effect this? Instead of doing ALA at say 25mg all the way through to completion of the round, how would taping off at the end to say 12.5 work to eleviate some of the redistribution? Lee ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 I would think that would limit redistribution as there is less chelating agent thus less metals pulled. I do this to some degree and also end the round with just DMSA so we stop the pull from the brain and hopefully mop up the free floating metals before stopping. We also sometimes give charcoal or do clay at the end to further soak up metals/toxins. I really think it does work because round before last my husband forgot to dose him and he ended up stopping mid round. MAD was I especially since we had regression for the first time. I wouldn't think you would have to start tapering that far out. I generally do this for the last few rounds, maybe 5 doses. I am not an expert, just taking educated guesses and going on what I have seen in my son. Would be curious to see what others thought, I want to know if I am wrong! I do remember reading others saying they do the same thing though? Leona Gibson <tlukasiewicz@...> wrote: I think you misinterpreted my question so I will try to restate more clearly if that is possible for me to do. :-) What I wanted to know was would tapering off ALA after a round decrease the redistribution of Mercury? Example: Taking 25mg ALA for 3 days and then tapering to 12.5mg and then to 6.25mg for a day or two. Lee -- Re: [ ] Redistribution Question Doesn't work because Ala gets into the brain and dmsa does not, so dmsa cannot " cover " for Ala. [ ] Redistribution Question As we cycle the ALA, DMSA etc., redistribution happens on completion of a round but how would a tape of the ALA effect this? Instead of doing ALA at say 25mg all the way through to completion of the round, how would taping off at the end to say 12.5 work to eleviate some of the redistribution? Lee ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 > We " mop up " w/ DMSA only on the last dose. Tuesdays have been generally smoother since we started doing this. Of course, being a few more rounds into the process could be the reason for the decline in regressive symptoms as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Sorry, thinking you were talking about using dmsa as a " cover " for Ala, which does not work for the reasons I last posted. I remember this being discussed at an earlier date, but can't remember the answer. Seems to me if you have any, even 6.25, you would still have redistribution, I don't know. You can search www.onibasu.com and see what the earlier posts said. I remember thinking that it wasn't worth spending the effort to make up extra capsules with lessor amounts in them. [ ] Redistribution Question As we cycle the ALA, DMSA etc., redistribution happens on completion of a round but how would a tape of the ALA effect this? Instead of doing ALA at say 25mg all the way through to completion of the round, how would taping off at the end to say 12.5 work to eleviate some of the redistribution? Lee ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 On pg. 239 of Hair Test Interpretation, Andy says " When using ALA with DMPS or DMSA, leaving the ALA out of the last dose or two of the cycle often reduces the day after effects substantially. " We do this and it does seem to help. W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 > > On pg. 239 of Hair Test Interpretation, Andy says " When using ALA with > DMPS or DMSA, leaving the ALA out of the last dose or two of the cycle > often reduces the day after effects substantially. " We do this and it > does seem to help. > > W. > I read the same thing in HTI, and we do the same. in Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 I think that because of the 1/2 life of the chelator, it effectively tapers itself off anyway. Anne > > Sorry, thinking you were talking about using dmsa as a " cover " for Ala, which does not work for the reasons I last posted. > > I remember this being discussed at an earlier date, but can't remember the answer. Seems to me if you have any, even 6.25, you would still have redistribution, I don't know. You can search www.onibasu.com and see what the earlier posts said. I remember thinking that it wasn't worth spending the effort to make up extra capsules with lessor amounts in them. > > > > > [ ] Redistribution Question > > > As we cycle the ALA, DMSA etc., redistribution happens on completion of > a round but how would a tape of the ALA effect this? Instead of doing > ALA at say 25mg all the way through to completion of the round, how > would taping off at the end to say 12.5 work to eleviate some of the > redistribution? > > Lee > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 I know people used to do this, just use dmsa for the last dose or two, but can't remember why it was no longer considered important. [ ] Re: Redistribution Question > > On pg. 239 of Hair Test Interpretation, Andy says " When using ALA with > DMPS or DMSA, leaving the ALA out of the last dose or two of the cycle > often reduces the day after effects substantially. " We do this and it > does seem to help. > > W. > I read the same thing in HTI, and we do the same. in Illinois ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Thanks , I have the book but haven't started it yet. I did finish AI. Unfortunately I don't have any DMSA. Lee -- [ ] Re: Redistribution Question On pg. 239 of Hair Test Interpretation, Andy says " When using ALA with DMPS or DMSA, leaving the ALA out of the last dose or two of the cycle often reduces the day after effects substantially. " We do this and it does seem to help. W. ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2006 Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Some people make the last two or three doses DMSA only as they say to mop up. Some points: You need the rest and your youngster needs to rest. Getting up every three hours for three days and nights is tough. I see the potential for some redistribution regardless of tapering off or not. The reason you give the chelation anti-oxidants is to keep any redistribution to minimal effect. [ ] Redistribution Question As we cycle the ALA, DMSA etc., redistribution happens on completion of a round but how would a tape of the ALA effect this? Instead of doing ALA at say 25mg all the way through to completion of the round, how would taping off at the end to say 12.5 work to eleviate some of the redistribution? Lee ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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