Re: hair test -high lead- please help! Lila, Anita

October 19, 2005

Thank you for your replies, Lila and Anita,

Lila, my son's hair lead is 24.5 (acceptable on this test is 1.5)!!!!

Anita, where in Canada are you? We are in alberta, Crowsnest Pass,

and that's what I am finding too- no proper lead inspectors!

I am shocked that this is actually happening... Our house is old, but

there are older houses around in a much worse shape... we don't have

any flaky paint or anything like that... i had no idea that there

could be lead in varnishes too... or in our hot water radiators...

the lead test kit that i got cannot be used on metal nor on wood, so

we can't really trust the results. i feel like selling our lovely

house and hiding in some condo... not really an option where we

live...

really need some words of hope- chelation works, doesn't it? and

there is a good chance that having caught this early we should be

able to prevent major damage, wouldn't you say?

Thank you again,

tanya

> >

> > hi everyone,

> >

> > we are totally new to all of this and i desperately need help.

> >

> > Nico, my 14 month old son has a lot of health issues- he has

Cystic

> > Fibrosis (CF). most of his symptoms are GI. he is on enzymes

because he

> > is pancreatic insufficient. we live in an old house, so I was

concerned

> > about lead exposure and got his hair tested... His lead is high!

24.5

> > (whatever the units are!) when the acceptable level is up to 1.5.

has

> > anybodddy else seen levels as high? the rest of his heavy metals

are

> > in the acceptable range. he hasn't been vaccinated, perhaps

that's why

> >

> > we are still waiting for blood test results, but it looks like we

have

> > to chelate whateverr they are- hair is more relliable, right?

>

> My son's (age 14) blood level was 0.010 which is low, but his hair

> test was 6.4, now down to 2.3.

>

> > my main concern is that chelation is really hard on liver and

kidneys-

> > organs already comprommised by Cystic Fibrosis... What do we

do?????

> >

> > what are the options for chelation? is there a gentler way? is

anybody

> > here using specific RNA for detox? GSH?

>

> We've been using Authis cream (TTFD). It brought my son's hair lead

> levels down.

>

> To protect the liver we use Reduced-L Glutithione lotion applied

> directly over the liver twice a day and also milk thistle. We also

> bought a HEPA filter for his bedroom.

>

> Lila

>

October 19, 2005

This is actually good to see high levels in hair, it means that is

what is being excreted out. I would be more worried about the metals

that measured low meaning they are not being excreted out. Have a

doctor measure glutathione levels, without enough your body cannot

get rid of free-radicals, which includes metals.

> > >

> > > hi everyone,

> > >

> > > we are totally new to all of this and i desperately need help.

> > >

> > > Nico, my 14 month old son has a lot of health issues- he has

> Cystic

> > > Fibrosis (CF). most of his symptoms are GI. he is on enzymes

> because he

> > > is pancreatic insufficient. we live in an old house, so I was

> concerned

> > > about lead exposure and got his hair tested... His lead is

high!

> 24.5

> > > (whatever the units are!) when the acceptable level is up to

1.5.

> has

> > > anybodddy else seen levels as high? the rest of his heavy

metals

> are

> > > in the acceptable range. he hasn't been vaccinated, perhaps

> that's why

> > >

> > > we are still waiting for blood test results, but it looks like

we

> have

> > > to chelate whateverr they are- hair is more relliable, right?

> >

> > My son's (age 14) blood level was 0.010 which is low, but his hair

> > test was 6.4, now down to 2.3.

> >

> > > my main concern is that chelation is really hard on liver and

> kidneys-

> > > organs already comprommised by Cystic Fibrosis... What do we

> do?????

> > >

> > > what are the options for chelation? is there a gentler way? is

> anybody

> > > here using specific RNA for detox? GSH?

> >

> > We've been using Authis cream (TTFD). It brought my son's hair

lead

> > levels down.

> >

> > To protect the liver we use Reduced-L Glutithione lotion applied

> > directly over the liver twice a day and also milk thistle. We

also

> > bought a HEPA filter for his bedroom.

> >

> > Lila

> >

>

October 20, 2005

Gotta jump in here. For lead, I believe the hair is a good

indicator of body burden. This little boy's body is burdened.

Worry about that lead, too.

Pam

> > > >

> > > > hi everyone,

> > > >

> > > > we are totally new to all of this and i desperately need

help.

> > > >

> > > > Nico, my 14 month old son has a lot of health issues- he has

> > Cystic

> > > > Fibrosis (CF). most of his symptoms are GI. he is on enzymes

> > because he

> > > > is pancreatic insufficient. we live in an old house, so I

was

> > concerned

> > > > about lead exposure and got his hair tested... His lead is

> high!

> > 24.5

> > > > (whatever the units are!) when the acceptable level is up to

> 1.5.

> > has

> > > > anybodddy else seen levels as high? the rest of his heavy

> metals

> > are

> > > > in the acceptable range. he hasn't been vaccinated, perhaps

> > that's why

> > > >

> > > > we are still waiting for blood test results, but it looks

like

> we

> > have

> > > > to chelate whateverr they are- hair is more relliable, right?

> > >

> > > My son's (age 14) blood level was 0.010 which is low, but his

hair

> > > test was 6.4, now down to 2.3.

> > >

> > > > my main concern is that chelation is really hard on liver

and

> > kidneys-

> > > > organs already comprommised by Cystic Fibrosis... What do

we

> > do?????

> > > >

> > > > what are the options for chelation? is there a gentler way?

is

> > anybody

> > > > here using specific RNA for detox? GSH?

> > >

> > > We've been using Authis cream (TTFD). It brought my son's

hair

> lead

> > > levels down.

> > >

> > > To protect the liver we use Reduced-L Glutithione lotion

applied

> > > directly over the liver twice a day and also milk thistle. We

> also

> > > bought a HEPA filter for his bedroom.

> > >

> > > Lila

> > >

> >

>

October 20, 2005

Do old houses have lead pipes? Can the hair levels of lead be

artificially elevated in children from lead in the water, or is that

issue just for adults who use hair dyes and other products that

historically contained lead?

Pam

> > > > >

> > > > > hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > we are totally new to all of this and i desperately need

> help.

> > > > >

> > > > > Nico, my 14 month old son has a lot of health issues- he

has

> > > Cystic

> > > > > Fibrosis (CF). most of his symptoms are GI. he is on

enzymes

> > > because he

> > > > > is pancreatic insufficient. we live in an old house, so I

> was

> > > concerned

> > > > > about lead exposure and got his hair tested... His lead is

> > high!

> > > 24.5

> > > > > (whatever the units are!) when the acceptable level is up

to

> > 1.5.

> > > has

> > > > > anybodddy else seen levels as high? the rest of his heavy

> > metals

> > > are

> > > > > in the acceptable range. he hasn't been vaccinated,

perhaps

> > > that's why

> > > > >

> > > > > we are still waiting for blood test results, but it looks

> like

> > we

> > > have

> > > > > to chelate whateverr they are- hair is more relliable,

right?

> > > >

> > > > My son's (age 14) blood level was 0.010 which is low, but

his

> hair

> > > > test was 6.4, now down to 2.3.

> > > >

> > > > > my main concern is that chelation is really hard on liver

> and

> > > kidneys-

> > > > > organs already comprommised by Cystic Fibrosis... What do

> we

> > > do?????

> > > > >

> > > > > what are the options for chelation? is there a gentler

way?

> is

> > > anybody

> > > > > here using specific RNA for detox? GSH?

> > > >

> > > > We've been using Authis cream (TTFD). It brought my son's

> hair

> > lead

> > > > levels down.

> > > >

> > > > To protect the liver we use Reduced-L Glutithione lotion

> applied

> > > > directly over the liver twice a day and also milk thistle.

We

> > also

> > > > bought a HEPA filter for his bedroom.

> > > >

> > > > Lila

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

October 20, 2005

,

Yes, I agree that my son was excreting lead which is good. We were

concerned about where he was getting the exposure, however. We do

live in an old 100+ house. Dr. McCandless wanted to address the lead

issue prior to chelating for mercury, thus the use of Authia cream.

The local health dept. wasn't concerned because his blood levels were

low. They never heard of the hair tests and would not come out and

inspect on that basis.

One source of lead I haven't seen mentioned is the little stained

glass suncatchers and candleholders that many people have. My son

never seems to be able to stay awake in church and I've often wondered

about all those stained glass windows?

Lila

>

> This is actually good to see high levels in hair, it means that is

> what is being excreted out. I would be more worried about the metals

> that measured low meaning they are not being excreted out. Have a

> doctor measure glutathione levels, without enough your body cannot

> get rid of free-radicals, which includes metals.

>

October 20, 2005

I agree that your son's levels are astronomical, but as mentioned by

someone else, it does mean that your son IS excreting lead. I'd be

worried about where he is getting it from...plastic miniblinds,

stained glass, paint, house dust, water pipes, etc.

The heath dept. lady was concerned that if I began chelating my son,

that he would become a " magnet for lead " according to her.

Lila

> Lila, my son's hair lead is 24.5 (acceptable on this test is 1.5)!!!!

October 20, 2005

Other exposures to lead can come from old blinds, certain vinyl lunchboxes and

going to the car races. I read that they still use leaded gas. Living near

such a place could also mean higher amounts in the air.

Good that it is coming out of his body though. Maybe after chelation if you are

still worried about current exposures you could test after you were sure the

effects of the chelation are gone. Can you get the test kits yourself? I think

I read that they are available from places like Home Depot. Others were talking

about getting them to test their lunchboxes recently.

Speaking of that, did you see the postings about the lunchboxes? That may have

been a different group, I get them confused sometimes. Turns out a lot of vinyl

lunchboxes have high level of lead in them. Yell if you didn't see it, I likely

still have it. I am maybe leaving soon for the hurricane so if it takes me a

couple days I am sorry. Someone else may have it as well.

Take care and glad that the lead is leaving that baby of yours!

Lila <cybermom@...> wrote:

,

Yes, I agree that my son was excreting lead which is good. We were

concerned about where he was getting the exposure, however. We do

live in an old 100+ house. Dr. McCandless wanted to address the lead

issue prior to chelating for mercury, thus the use of Authia cream.

The local health dept. wasn't concerned because his blood levels were

low. They never heard of the hair tests and would not come out and

inspect on that basis.

One source of lead I haven't seen mentioned is the little stained

glass suncatchers and candleholders that many people have. My son

never seems to be able to stay awake in church and I've often wondered

about all those stained glass windows?

Lila

>

> This is actually good to see high levels in hair, it means that is

> what is being excreted out. I would be more worried about the metals

> that measured low meaning they are not being excreted out. Have a

> doctor measure glutathione levels, without enough your body cannot

> get rid of free-radicals, which includes metals.

>

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October 20, 2005

DMSA chelates lead, but please consider using it on Andy's protocol. Check the

archives as folks have recently posted that some lunch boxes were found to have

lead and some dishes. The lead paint is on the exterior of the radiators.

Someone posted a place in the UK that sells lead-free radiator paint. I'll post

a link.

S S

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