Re: not seeing much progress

[Guest guest]

Sometimes it is helpful to change the chelator. I would, like Anne, try adding

in oral Ala.

For the hyperactivity, try 1 gram of calcium and 500 mgs magnesium per day. Use

the citrate forms and start slowly, maybe 1/4 of this and increase regularly.

This amount was enough to get our 3.0 constantly moving girl to sit still for up

to 15 minutes at a time.

Hyperactive children also need lots of B vitamins and CLO, but the cal/mag is

especially useful. Hyperactive kids use supplements at higher amounts due to

stress.

Good luck,

[ ] Re: not seeing much progress

How do you know those were his heavy metals? Have you looked into

adding any antivirals? Have you considered adding ALA?

Anne

>

> Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much progress

> with my son?

>

> He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> He takes brainchild supplements.

> I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> I give him Zinc.

> I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

> work at all for us.

>

> Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

> progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

>

> His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

>

> He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

> pretty much every day.

>

> He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

> but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

> appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

> Also his language problems.

>

> Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> Dannene

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

No quick & easy answer for this. How long have you been chelating? This could

be the following:

1. Results may be happening but you don't see them yet. Chelation is like

putting out a fire. If your kid is hyper, it may actually be a good sign. Dr.

Buttar states that one child did not appear to respond to chelation for 11

months.

2. MB12 works better after the mercury comes out. Mercury inhibits the

action of MB12. So the longer you chelate, the more likely the MB12 will help.

3. Check your son's testosterone level. A new theory by Dr. Geier states

that some ASD kids form mercury-testosterone sheets which are very difficult to

chelate. Only way to chelate is to stop the testosterone during chelation. I

suggest you watch the following Dr. Geier video. The video of Reverend Sykes is

also amazing.

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

Please keep this site posted as to your son's progress. I have a similar

situation and would like to know or figure out why some kids do not make as much

progress as others.

Best of luck to you.

dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...> wrote:

Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much progress

with my son?

He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

He takes brainchild supplements.

I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

I give him Zinc.

I give him Cod Liver Oil.

He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

work at all for us.

Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

pretty much every day.

He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

Also his language problems.

Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

Dannene

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Also, you don't mention an anti-viral protocal. Have you used valtrex? What

about virastop and olive leaf extract? HBOT has also provided amazing results.

Abid Khan <a_bit_solutions@...> wrote: No quick & easy answer for this.

How long have you been chelating? This could be the following:

1. Results may be happening but you don't see them yet. Chelation is like

putting out a fire. If your kid is hyper, it may actually be a good sign. Dr.

Buttar states that one child did not appear to respond to chelation for 11

months.

2. MB12 works better after the mercury comes out. Mercury inhibits the

action of MB12. So the longer you chelate, the more likely the MB12 will help.

3. Check your son's testosterone level. A new theory by Dr. Geier states

that some ASD kids form mercury-testosterone sheets which are very difficult to

chelate. Only way to chelate is to stop the testosterone during chelation. I

suggest you watch the following Dr. Geier video. The video of Reverend Sykes is

also amazing.

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

Please keep this site posted as to your son's progress. I have a similar

situation and would like to know or figure out why some kids do not make as much

progress as others.

Best of luck to you.

dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...> wrote:

Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much progress

with my son?

He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

He takes brainchild supplements.

I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

I give him Zinc.

I give him Cod Liver Oil.

He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

work at all for us.

Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

pretty much every day.

He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

Also his language problems.

Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

Dannene

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

From: Abid Khan

Dr. Buttar states that one child did not appear to respond to chelation for 11

months.

<<Lots of people bought this 11 month time period that Buttar spoke of. Did

not appear to work out well for most of them. Many, many went past the 11 months

and still saw nothing on his protocol. But he sold lots and lots of td-dmps with

that statement.

Some were able to shift to the low/frequent dosing and saw improvements, some

were not.

We used the product on the low/frequent dosing, mostly as a cover for Ala, to

control the side effects and I did like the product for those purposes.

2. MB12 works better after the mercury comes out. Mercury inhibits the

action of MB12. So the longer you chelate, the more likely the MB12 will help.

3. Check your son's testosterone level. A new theory by Dr. Geier states

that some ASD kids form mercury-testosterone sheets which are very difficult to

chelate. Only way to chelate is to stop the testosterone during chelation. I

suggest you watch the following Dr. Geier video. The video of Reverend Sykes is

also amazing.

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

Please keep this site posted as to your son's progress. I have a similar

situation and would like to know or figure out why some kids do not make as much

progress as others.

Best of luck to you.

dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...> wrote:

Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much progress

with my son?

He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

He takes brainchild supplements.

I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

I give him Zinc.

I give him Cod Liver Oil.

He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

work at all for us.

Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

pretty much every day.

He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

Also his language problems.

Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

Dannene

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

> Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

> progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

Try adding anti-virals.

What my son needed for language is here

http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

how much olive leaf extract? I bought some last weekend and hadn't

started yet. Can I put it in his drink? After reading your page I

noticed the bumps on the arm thing and he has really had a lot of

bumps on his upper arm lately.

> > Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

> > progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

>

>

> Try adding anti-virals.

>

> What my son needed for language is here

>

> http://www.danasview.net/issues.htm

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

Anne: I think I'm going to add some antivirals. I have some OLE

and virastop that I purchased last weekend.

I knew what metals based on 2 hair tests and he also had those and a

few more metals coming out in his urine and stool before starting

chelations

> >

> > Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much

progress

> > with my son?

> >

> > He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> > He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> > He takes brainchild supplements.

> > I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> > I give him Zinc.

> > I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> > He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

> > work at all for us.

> >

> > Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for

the

> > progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

> >

> > His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

> >

> > He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

> > pretty much every day.

> >

> > He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you

ask

> > but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is

age

> > appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

> > Also his language problems.

> >

> > Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> > Dannene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

: Thanks for the advice. It would be great if Zach started

being able to attend to his teacher in group settings. Right now he

can only do 2-3 minutes before getting distracted! He does sit and

color for long periods though

> >

> > Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much

progress

> > with my son?

> >

> > He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> > He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> > He takes brainchild supplements.

> > I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> > I give him Zinc.

> > I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> > He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did

not

> > work at all for us.

> >

> > Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for

the

> > progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

> >

> > His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

> >

> > He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has

speech

> > pretty much every day.

> >

> > He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you

ask

> > but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is

age

> > appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit

still.

> > Also his language problems.

> >

> > Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> > Dannene

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Abid! He doesn't act like he has high testosterone levels

but who knows. We have been chelating for a month and 1/2

> Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much

progress

> with my son?

>

> He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> He takes brainchild supplements.

> I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> I give him Zinc.

> I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

> work at all for us.

>

> Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

> progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

>

> His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

>

> He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

> pretty much every day.

>

> He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

> but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

> appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

> Also his language problems.

>

> Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> Dannene

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

abid: how much virastop?

> Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much

progress

> with my son?

>

> He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> He takes brainchild supplements.

> I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> I give him Zinc.

> I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

> work at all for us.

>

> Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

> progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

>

> His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

>

> He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

> pretty much every day.

>

> He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

> but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

> appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

> Also his language problems.

>

> Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> Dannene

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

(or anyone),

Does Dr. Buttar own or have a stake in DMPS?

Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

From: Abid Khan

Dr. Buttar states that one child did not appear to respond to chelation for 11

months.

<<Lots of people bought this 11 month time period that Buttar spoke of. Did

not appear to work out well for most of them. Many, many went past the 11 months

and still saw nothing on his protocol. But he sold lots and lots of td-dmps with

that statement.

Some were able to shift to the low/frequent dosing and saw improvements, some

were not.

We used the product on the low/frequent dosing, mostly as a cover for Ala, to

control the side effects and I did like the product for those purposes.

2. MB12 works better after the mercury comes out. Mercury inhibits the

action of MB12. So the longer you chelate, the more likely the MB12 will help.

3. Check your son's testosterone level. A new theory by Dr. Geier states

that some ASD kids form mercury-testosterone sheets which are very difficult to

chelate. Only way to chelate is to stop the testosterone during chelation. I

suggest you watch the following Dr. Geier video. The video of Reverend Sykes is

also amazing.

http://www.autismmedia.org/media4.html

Please keep this site posted as to your son's progress. I have a similar

situation and would like to know or figure out why some kids do not make as much

progress as others.

Best of luck to you.

dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...> wrote:

Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much progress

with my son?

He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

He takes brainchild supplements.

I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

I give him Zinc.

I give him Cod Liver Oil.

He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

work at all for us.

Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

pretty much every day.

He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

Also his language problems.

Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

Dannene

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Sugar can cause hyperness and you'll never get rid of the yeast

without eliminating it from your son's diet...

>

> Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much progress

> with my son?

>

> He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> He takes brainchild supplements.

> I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> I give him Zinc.

> I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

> work at all for us.

>

> Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

> progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

>

> His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

>

> He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

> pretty much every day.

>

> He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

> but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

> appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

> Also his language problems.

>

> Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> Dannene

>

[Guest guest]

Try cutting out all Dairy products for a while.

Make sure you aren't giving the probiotics at the same time as the GSE.

Maybe he as lead, consider doing DMSA for a while.

Good luck !

Neil

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of dannenedrummond

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:34 AM

Subject: [ ] not seeing much progress

Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much progress

with my son?

He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

He takes brainchild supplements.

I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

I give him Zinc.

I give him Cod Liver Oil.

He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

work at all for us.

Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

pretty much every day.

He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

Also his language problems.

Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

Dannene

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

The thing about sugar is the only way I can get him to take his

vitamins is in juice. How in the world am I going to get him to

take it without being in something sweet? When people say eliminate

sugar, do they also mean artificial sweeteners? (that's just a

curiosity question, i think they are disgusting!)

> >

> > Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much

progress

> > with my son?

> >

> > He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> > He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> > He takes brainchild supplements.

> > I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> > I give him Zinc.

> > I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> > He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

> > work at all for us.

> >

> > Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for

the

> > progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

> >

> > His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

> >

> > He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

> > pretty much every day.

> >

> > He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you

ask

> > but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is

age

> > appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

> > Also his language problems.

> >

> > Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> > Dannene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Neil: he didn't have lead in any of the 4 tests I did. Thanks for

letting me know about the probiotics because I was giving them at

the same time! I don't give him much dairy and if I do I give

enzymes.

>

> Try cutting out all Dairy products for a while.

>

> Make sure you aren't giving the probiotics at the same time as the

GSE.

>

> Maybe he as lead, consider doing DMSA for a while.

>

>

>

> Good luck !

>

> Neil

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto:Autism-

Mercury ]

> On Behalf Of dannenedrummond

> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:34 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] not seeing much progress

>

>

>

> Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much progress

> with my son?

>

> He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> He takes brainchild supplements.

> I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> I give him Zinc.

> I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

> work at all for us.

>

> Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for the

> progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

>

> His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

>

> He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

> pretty much every day.

>

> He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you ask

> but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is age

> appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

> Also his language problems.

>

> Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> Dannene

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

IMO, keep the juice if that is the way you can get him to take his supplements.

It;s different for different kids, some get yeast with sugar, I could never make

the connection between sugar and yeast for ours. But, for a lot of kids, sugar

equals yeast.

We were told to cut even fruit out. We are not in favor of eliminating good

foods from the diet unless there was a very compelling reason.

No, xylitol or stevia do not increase yeast. We use both sparingly.

[ ] Re: not seeing much progress

The thing about sugar is the only way I can get him to take his

vitamins is in juice. How in the world am I going to get him to

take it without being in something sweet? When people say eliminate

sugar, do they also mean artificial sweeteners? (that's just a

curiosity question, i think they are disgusting!)

> >

> > Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much

progress

> > with my son?

> >

> > He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> > He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> > He takes brainchild supplements.

> > I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> > I give him Zinc.

> > I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> > He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did not

> > work at all for us.

> >

> > Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal for

the

> > progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

> >

> > His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

> >

> > He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has speech

> > pretty much every day.

> >

> > He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything you

ask

> > but you can't understand anything. His receptive language is

age

> > appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit still.

> > Also his language problems.

> >

> > Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> > Dannene

> >

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

We use only organic pears and pear juice

with no sugar added. It is commonly understood

among many of us that pears are the only

fruit that yeast do not like. The pear

juice can be found at Whole Foods and some

Kroger stores in the Health Food section.

My child reacts whenever we give fruit other

than pears.

--- dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...>

wrote:

> The thing about sugar is the only way I can get him

> to take his

> vitamins is in juice. How in the world am I going

> to get him to

> take it without being in something sweet? When

> people say eliminate

> sugar, do they also mean artificial sweeteners?

> (that's just a

> curiosity question, i think they are disgusting!)

>

> > >

> > > Could someone help me figure out why I'm not

> seeing much

> progress

> > > with my son?

> > >

> > > He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> > > He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> > > He takes brainchild supplements.

> > > I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for

> yeast.

> > > I give him Zinc.

> > > I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> > > He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and

> no-fenol)--the diet did not

> > > work at all for us.

> > >

> > > Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is

> it normal for

> the

> > > progress to be very slow? Is there something

> I'm missing?

> > >

> > > His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony,

> aluminum, and tin.

> > >

> > > He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at

> home. He has speech

> > > pretty much every day.

> > >

> > > He has great eye contact and attempts to speak

> everything you

> ask

> > > but you can't understand anything. His

> receptive language is

> age

> > > appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and

> won't sit still.

> > > Also his language problems.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> > > Dannene

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

: I just have a hard time believing the sugar is causing the

yeast because before we did chelation, he had no yeast whatsoever

and he ate sugar all the time. He LOVES fruit...I don't think I

could cut that out of his diet ever. Besides, they allow people

with diabetes to eat fruit (2 servings a day) so that seems crazy

they told you to take those out in my opinion.

> > >

> > > Could someone help me figure out why I'm not seeing much

> progress

> > > with my son?

> > >

> > > He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> > > He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> > > He takes brainchild supplements.

> > > I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for yeast.

> > > I give him Zinc.

> > > I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> > > He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and no-fenol)--the diet did

not

> > > work at all for us.

> > >

> > > Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is it normal

for

> the

> > > progress to be very slow? Is there something I'm missing?

> > >

> > > His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony, aluminum, and tin.

> > >

> > > He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at home. He has

speech

> > > pretty much every day.

> > >

> > > He has great eye contact and attempts to speak everything

you

> ask

> > > but you can't understand anything. His receptive language

is

> age

> > > appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and won't sit

still.

> > > Also his language problems.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> > > Dannene

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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-Also Gerber makes Pear Juice, look in the baby food section. Not

sure if it is organic though.

-- In , Cowen <mlcowen@...>

wrote:

>

> We use only organic pears and pear juice

> with no sugar added. It is commonly understood

> among many of us that pears are the only

> fruit that yeast do not like. The pear

> juice can be found at Whole Foods and some

> Kroger stores in the Health Food section.

>

> My child reacts whenever we give fruit other

> than pears.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- dannenedrummond <dannenedrummond@...>

> wrote:

>

> > The thing about sugar is the only way I can get him

> > to take his

> > vitamins is in juice. How in the world am I going

> > to get him to

> > take it without being in something sweet? When

> > people say eliminate

> > sugar, do they also mean artificial sweeteners?

> > (that's just a

> > curiosity question, i think they are disgusting!)

> >

> > > >

> > > > Could someone help me figure out why I'm not

> > seeing much

> > progress

> > > > with my son?

> > > >

> > > > He is getting B-12 shots every 3 days.

> > > > He is on TD-DMPS 3 days on 4 days off.

> > > > He takes brainchild supplements.

> > > > I give him diflucan, probiotics and GSE for

> > yeast.

> > > > I give him Zinc.

> > > > I give him Cod Liver Oil.

> > > > He takes enzymes (zymeprime, AFP and

> > no-fenol)--the diet did not

> > > > work at all for us.

> > > >

> > > > Nothing seems to be affecting him too much. Is

> > it normal for

> > the

> > > > progress to be very slow? Is there something

> > I'm missing?

> > > >

> > > > His heavy metals were aresenic, antimony,

> > aluminum, and tin.

> > > >

> > > > He has aba all day at school and 8 hours at

> > home. He has speech

> > > > pretty much every day.

> > > >

> > > > He has great eye contact and attempts to speak

> > everything you

> > ask

> > > > but you can't understand anything. His

> > receptive language is

> > age

> > > > appropriate. His problems are he is hyper and

> > won't sit still.

> > > > Also his language problems.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance! (he just turned 4)

> > > > Dannene

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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I agree with . Whole foods that are nutritious should not be

removed unless it's clear thay are not tolerated, IMO. I know juice

is not quite a " whole food " ; but it's the only way we can get

supplements in, and so I try to use the best quality ones I can find,

then dilute as much as I can get away with. One idea is to use

cranberry juice with no sugar and no other sweeter juice added (like

concentrated apple or grape, etc.). I've had to buy it in the health

food store, not cheap, but it has a very low sugar content and can be

diluted and sweetened with xylitol and stevia. We use this for dosing

chelators.

Take care

René

>

> IMO, keep the juice if that is the way you can get him to take his

supplements.

>

> It;s different for different kids, some get yeast with sugar, I

could never make the connection between sugar and yeast for ours.

But, for a lot of kids, sugar equals yeast.

>

> We were told to cut even fruit out. We are not in favor of

eliminating good foods from the diet unless there was a very

compelling reason.

>

> No, xylitol or stevia do not increase yeast. We use both sparingly.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

This is interesting. I always thought that pears were preferred for

some kids because of the low phenol content. I'm wondering what makes

them good re: yeast. It's still fructose....

hmm.

thanks

René

>

> We use only organic pears and pear juice

> with no sugar added. It is commonly understood

> among many of us that pears are the only

> fruit that yeast do not like. The pear

> juice can be found at Whole Foods and some

> Kroger stores in the Health Food section.

>

> My child reacts whenever we give fruit other

> than pears.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chelation causes yeast to increase (not because of the chelation itself, but

because of moving the metals).

S S

<tt>

:  I just have a hard time believing the sugar is causing the <BR>

yeast because before we did chelation, he had no yeast whatsoever <BR>

and he ate sugar all the time.  He LOVES fruit...I don't think I <BR>

could cut that out of his diet ever.  Besides, they allow people <BR>

with diabetes to eat fruit (2 servings a day) so that seems crazy <BR>

they told you to take those out in my opinion.<BR>

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You could have a comprehensive diagnostic stool analysis from Great Smokies to

see whats going on yeast-wise.

S S

On Wed 03/22, dannenedrummond < dannenedrummond@... >

wrote:<br><br><tt><br>:  I just have a hard time believing the sugar is

causing the <BR><br>yeast because before we did chelation, he had no yeast

whatsoever <BR><br>and he ate sugar all the time.  He LOVES fruit...I don't

think I <BR><br>could cut that out of his diet ever.  Besides, they allow people

<BR><br>with diabetes to eat fruit (2 servings a day) so that seems crazy

<BR><br>they told you to take those out in my opinion.<

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We had one done before he started chelation. Can I get it without a

doctor's order?

<br><br><tt><br>:  I just have a hard time believing

the sugar is causing the <BR><br>yeast because before we did

chelation, he had no yeast whatsoever <BR><br>and he ate sugar all

the time.  He LOVES fruit...I don't think I <BR><br>could cut that

out of his diet ever.  Besides, they allow people <BR><br>with

diabetes to eat fruit (2 servings a day) so that seems crazy

<BR><br>they told you to take those out in my opinion.<

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>

> how much olive leaf extract?

I started my kids with 250mg per day, and worked up from there.

>>Can I put it in his drink?

It tastes VERY strong. I have mixed it into peanut butter and honey,

which usually masks almost everything but it did not fully mask the

OLE taste.

Dana