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I was induced.

Anne

> 2 of my 4 with autism were not induced in any way

> shape or form.

> My most severely autistic child came so fast there was

> not time for

> any inducement.

> Just for the stats of it.

> Laurel

>

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I was induced but not with potocin. They put something else inside me to

dialate my cervics then at 4 centameters they broke my water and he just came

rushing out. But the one thing I do have in common with most of the other

mothers that have responded is that my son came out so fast that he did not even

turn his shoulders and I was ripped wide open. The whole thing only took 4

hours

and he was only 5# 3oz, but we think that is because he also has

toxoplasmosis and is HFA.

My daughter was a potocin baby. I was already 4 centameters when I went in

and so they broke my water right away and hooked me up to the potocin and she

was born with in 2 hours. She did not rush out like my son but she was only 5#

6oz and she has no signs of Autism.

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I was not induced either, but I had no contractions. A day before I had my son I

was

dilated 8 cm already and I was not even in bed. I had absolutely no symptom

other

than, of course, the obvious dilation. The same night I went to the hospital and

I

gave birth in 15 min. I barely had time to get there. My delivery was called

" spontaneous abortion " . It was on term, but I had two other spontaneous

abortions

before this one, one at 6 1/2 months, another at 8 months. Both kids died soon

after

birth.

Just for your information, the need for induction is because of low Oxytocin

(Pitocin

is actually Oxytocin). Oxytocin is a hormone secreted my the posterior pituitary

gland. It stimulates uterine contractions and milk ejection (not production) and

is

responsible apparently for maternal behavior.

So if I get this right, induced or not, most of us have a common problem. I

imagine

that the abortion is actually happening because of lack of oxytocin too.

There was a discussion some years ago about the low oxytocin in mothers of

autistic

kids. I can't remember details anymore, sorry.

From what I read, I understand that also there are a lot of spontaneous

abortions

among women with the MTHFr mutation. I don't know if I have it - never tested

for it,

but it is possible.

Valentina

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>

>

> I had an emergency C section

I had a scheduled c-section due to the hugeness of the baby (10.5 lbs

at 39 wks). I wish I could have a do-over on that decision.

Nell

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Yikes! If you had gone to 42 weeks that would have been one BIG baby!!! I was

such a chicken when it came to delivery when they told me at 30 weeks that my

baby was breech I refused to let them turn him and seriously prayed hard that he

would stay breech! He did stay breech which was a good thing, I lost all fluid

and had to have a hurry up c-section at 39 weeks. That complication may not

have been found if I was scheduled to delivery naturally. He was only 6lb 14oz

and I was glad I didn't have to deliver him...such a chicken!

lanellici <lanellici@...> wrote:

>

>

> I had an emergency C section

I had a scheduled c-section due to the hugeness of the baby (10.5 lbs

at 39 wks). I wish I could have a do-over on that decision.

Nell

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I was induced.

Liz

> > 2 of my 4 with autism were not induced in any way

> > shape or form.

> > My most severely autistic child came so fast there was

> > not time for

> > any inducement.

> > Just for the stats of it.

> > Laurel

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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i did see your other post on baby size, i am not sure of baby size (although

both our kids are big after birth.) I do know they are looking at head

circumference though as a correlation.

-jja

lanellici <lanellici@...> wrote:

>

>

> I had an emergency C section

I had a scheduled c-section due to the hugeness of the baby (10.5 lbs

at 39 wks). I wish I could have a do-over on that decision.

Nell

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i agree with your take 100%, there are people who are actually now monitoring

oxytocin levels in mothers and trying oxytocin therapy to try and prevent autism

in high risk (mothers with other autistic children) cases.

-jja

Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

I was not induced either, but I had no contractions. A day before I had my son

I was

dilated 8 cm already and I was not even in bed. I had absolutely no symptom

other

than, of course, the obvious dilation. The same night I went to the hospital and

I

gave birth in 15 min. I barely had time to get there. My delivery was called

" spontaneous abortion " . It was on term, but I had two other spontaneous

abortions

before this one, one at 6 1/2 months, another at 8 months. Both kids died soon

after

birth.

Just for your information, the need for induction is because of low Oxytocin

(Pitocin

is actually Oxytocin). Oxytocin is a hormone secreted my the posterior pituitary

gland. It stimulates uterine contractions and milk ejection (not production) and

is

responsible apparently for maternal behavior.

So if I get this right, induced or not, most of us have a common problem. I

imagine

that the abortion is actually happening because of lack of oxytocin too.

There was a discussion some years ago about the low oxytocin in mothers of

autistic

kids. I can't remember details anymore, sorry.

From what I read, I understand that also there are a lot of spontaneous

abortions

among women with the MTHFr mutation. I don't know if I have it - never tested

for it,

but it is possible.

Valentina

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so the link still is not pitocin it is oxytocin production in the mother.

-john

Xena Sen <xsbags4@...> wrote:

I was not induced , my son literally flew out. No

pictoocin... still ASD.

I know another mom who's ASD son had no pictocin but

her NT son was induced with it...

Xena

I kind of thought that it was just one of those

bizarre chances of

probability that i ran across. However it just became

more and more odd as

every other mother we ran across was induced as well.

-jja

autiemom4 <autiemom4@...> wrote:

2 of my 4 with autism were not induced in any way

shape or form.

My most severely autistic child came so fast there was

not time for

any inducement.

Just for the stats of it.

Laurel

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You can put it this way, yes.

Valentina

> so the link still is not pitocin it is oxytocin production in the mother.

>

> -john

>

> Xena Sen <xsbags4@...> wrote:

> I was not induced , my son literally flew out. No

> pictoocin... still ASD.

> I know another mom who's ASD son had no pictocin but

> her NT son was induced with it...

> Xena

>

> I kind of thought that it was just one of those

> bizarre chances of

> probability that i ran across. However it just became

> more and more odd as

> every other mother we ran across was induced as well.

>

> -jja

>

> autiemom4 <autiemom4@...> wrote:

> 2 of my 4 with autism were not induced in any way

> shape or form.

> My most severely autistic child came so fast there was

> not time for

> any inducement.

> Just for the stats of it.

> Laurel

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I was reading just a few days ago about Oxytocin and it was kind of

interesting... This author was saying that the best way to stimulate the body to

produce oxytocin is by nipple innervation. Now he was talking about

animals, but I guess the same thing applies to humans.

I wish I knew this some years ago :))

Valentina

> i agree with your take 100%, there are people who are actually now monitoring

oxytocin levels in mothers and trying oxytocin therapy to try and prevent autism

in high risk (mothers with other autistic children) cases.

>

> -jja

>

> Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> I was not induced either, but I had no contractions. A day before I had my

son I was

> dilated 8 cm already and I was not even in bed. I had absolutely no symptom

other

> than, of course, the obvious dilation. The same night I went to the hospital

and I

> gave birth in 15 min. I barely had time to get there. My delivery was called

> " spontaneous abortion " . It was on term, but I had two other spontaneous

abortions

> before this one, one at 6 1/2 months, another at 8 months. Both kids died soon

after

> birth.

>

> Just for your information, the need for induction is because of low Oxytocin

(Pitocin

> is actually Oxytocin). Oxytocin is a hormone secreted my the posterior

pituitary

> gland. It stimulates uterine contractions and milk ejection (not production)

and is

> responsible apparently for maternal behavior.

> So if I get this right, induced or not, most of us have a common problem. I

imagine

> that the abortion is actually happening because of lack of oxytocin too.

> There was a discussion some years ago about the low oxytocin in mothers of

autistic

> kids. I can't remember details anymore, sorry.

> >From what I read, I understand that also there are a lot of spontaneous

abortions

> among women with the MTHFr mutation. I don't know if I have it - never tested

for it,

> but it is possible.

>

> Valentina

>

> =======================================================

>

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Stimulating the nipples of a female or male increases oxytocin. Also

pituitary supplements and sexual supplements will do this also. In sex,

oxytocin is highest at the time of climax. It is not just for inducing

labor, it is a key component of what moves the smooth muscles all over,

including erections for men.

Some trivia: I remember in chinese medicine that eating the pituitary/pineal

gland of a salmon cures constipation (moves the intestinal smooth muscles),

and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of the

penis).

I'm not sure how safe they are during pregnancy unless you want to induce,

but for sex the bioray supplements are excellent. Lady Passion to " warm the

lower valley " and Red Rooster for men. Help with constipation with

beneficial side effects lol.

Cheers,

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Valentina Scharpf

Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:00 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] I was not induced...

I was reading just a few days ago about Oxytocin and it was kind of

interesting... This author was saying that the best way to stimulate the

body to produce oxytocin is by nipple innervation. Now he was talking about

animals, but I guess the same thing applies to humans.

I wish I knew this some years ago :))

Valentina

> i agree with your take 100%, there are people who are actually now

monitoring oxytocin levels in mothers and trying oxytocin therapy to try and

prevent autism in high risk (mothers with other autistic children) cases.

>

> -jja

>

> Valentina Scharpf <val999@...> wrote:

> I was not induced either, but I had no contractions. A day before I had

my son I was

> dilated 8 cm already and I was not even in bed. I had absolutely no

symptom other

> than, of course, the obvious dilation. The same night I went to the

hospital and I

> gave birth in 15 min. I barely had time to get there. My delivery was

called

> " spontaneous abortion " . It was on term, but I had two other spontaneous

abortions

> before this one, one at 6 1/2 months, another at 8 months. Both kids died

soon after

> birth.

>

> Just for your information, the need for induction is because of low

Oxytocin (Pitocin

> is actually Oxytocin). Oxytocin is a hormone secreted my the posterior

pituitary

> gland. It stimulates uterine contractions and milk ejection (not

production) and is

> responsible apparently for maternal behavior.

> So if I get this right, induced or not, most of us have a common problem.

I imagine

> that the abortion is actually happening because of lack of oxytocin too.

> There was a discussion some years ago about the low oxytocin in mothers of

autistic

> kids. I can't remember details anymore, sorry.

> >From what I read, I understand that also there are a lot of spontaneous

abortions

> among women with the MTHFr mutation. I don't know if I have it - never

tested for it,

> but it is possible.

>

> Valentina

>

> =======================================================

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Just correcting one little fact:

Littleton wrote:

>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of the

>penis).

>

>

There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

indirect process.

Regards,

de Vries

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Most people don't really think of the intestines or penis as muscular, but I

assure you there are smooth muscles in the artery walls that line the penis.

Even part of viagras action is this, and prior to that was the discovery

that directly injecting a drug to relax the smooth muscles in the artery

walls of the penis, causing then to open up would cause erection.

If you want to read more, howstuffworks has a little history and says this

in the first page " Smooth muscle plays a key role in every erection, and

Phentolamine is a drug that relaxes smooth muscle. "

http://health.howstuffworks.com/viagra3.htm

Cheers,

_____

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of de Vries

Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:02 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] I was not induced...

Just correcting one little fact:

Littleton wrote:

>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of the

>penis).

>

>

There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

indirect process.

Regards,

de Vries

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If you go back one page in that explanation, to 'technology of

erection', you'll see this statement on the website you referred me to:

" The penis, on the other hand, is completely different. There are no

muscle contractions involved in making the penis erect. To become erect,

the penis instead uses pressure. "

Regards,

de Vries

Littleton wrote:

>Most people don't really think of the intestines or penis as muscular, but I

>assure you there are smooth muscles in the artery walls that line the penis.

>Even part of viagras action is this, and prior to that was the discovery

>that directly injecting a drug to relax the smooth muscles in the artery

>walls of the penis, causing then to open up would cause erection.

>

>If you want to read more, howstuffworks has a little history and says this

>in the first page " Smooth muscle plays a key role in every erection, and

>Phentolamine is a drug that relaxes smooth muscle. "

>

>http://health.howstuffworks.com/viagra3.htm

>

>Cheers,

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>From: [mailto: ]

>On Behalf Of de Vries

>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:02 AM

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] I was not induced...

>

>

>

>Just correcting one little fact:

>

> Littleton wrote:

>

>

>

>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of the

>>penis).

>>

>>

>>

>>

>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

>indirect process.

>

>Regards,

>

> de Vries

>

>

>

>=======================================================

>

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This posting line is more appropriate on the adult chelation list.

Re: [ ] I was not induced...

>

>

>

>Just correcting one little fact:

>

> Littleton wrote:

>

>

>

>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of the

>>penis).

>>

>>

>>

>>

>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

>indirect process.

>

>Regards,

>

> de Vries

>

>

>

>=======================================================

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relaxing a muscle is moving a muscle. This is half of peristalic movement of

muscle.

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From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of de Vries

Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:08 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] I was not induced...

If you go back one page in that explanation, to 'technology of

erection', you'll see this statement on the website you referred me to:

" The penis, on the other hand, is completely different. There are no

muscle contractions involved in making the penis erect. To become erect,

the penis instead uses pressure. "

Regards,

de Vries

Littleton wrote:

>Most people don't really think of the intestines or penis as muscular, but

I

>assure you there are smooth muscles in the artery walls that line the

penis.

>Even part of viagras action is this, and prior to that was the discovery

>that directly injecting a drug to relax the smooth muscles in the artery

>walls of the penis, causing then to open up would cause erection.

>

>If you want to read more, howstuffworks has a little history and says this

>in the first page " Smooth muscle plays a key role in every erection, and

>Phentolamine is a drug that relaxes smooth muscle. "

>

>http://health.howstuffworks.com/viagra3.htm

>

>Cheers,

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>From:

[mailto: ]

>On Behalf Of de Vries

>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:02 AM

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] I was not induced...

>

>

>

>Just correcting one little fact:

>

> Littleton wrote:

>

>

>

>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of

the

>>penis).

>>

>>

>>

>>

>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

>indirect process.

>

>Regards,

>

> de Vries

>

>

>

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Yes there are muscles in the artery walls. Those can not rightly be

called 'the muscles of the penis', just as the muscles in the arterial

walls in the arm are not 'the muscles of the arm'.

Littleton wrote:

>relaxing a muscle is moving a muscle. This is half of peristalic movement of

>muscle.

>

> _____

>

>From: [mailto: ]

>On Behalf Of de Vries

>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:08 AM

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] I was not induced...

>

>

>

>If you go back one page in that explanation, to 'technology of

>erection', you'll see this statement on the website you referred me to:

>

> " The penis, on the other hand, is completely different. There are no

>muscle contractions involved in making the penis erect. To become erect,

>the penis instead uses pressure. "

>

>Regards,

>

> de Vries

>

> Littleton wrote:

>

>

>

>>Most people don't really think of the intestines or penis as muscular, but

>>

>>

>I

>

>

>>assure you there are smooth muscles in the artery walls that line the

>>

>>

>penis.

>

>

>>Even part of viagras action is this, and prior to that was the discovery

>>that directly injecting a drug to relax the smooth muscles in the artery

>>walls of the penis, causing then to open up would cause erection.

>>

>>If you want to read more, howstuffworks has a little history and says this

>>in the first page " Smooth muscle plays a key role in every erection, and

>>Phentolamine is a drug that relaxes smooth muscle. "

>>

>>http://health.howstuffworks.com/viagra3.htm

>>

>>Cheers,

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> _____

>>

>>From:

>>

>>

>[mailto: ]

>

>

>>On Behalf Of de Vries

>>Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 5:02 AM

>>

>>Subject: Re: [ ] I was not induced...

>>

>>

>>

>>Just correcting one little fact:

>>

>> Littleton wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of

>>>

>>>

>the

>

>

>>>penis).

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

>>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

>>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

>>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

>>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

>>indirect process.

>>

>>Regards,

>>

>> de Vries

>>

>>

>>

>>=======================================================

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Excuse me??? What is the point of this discussion????

Barb

Re: [ ] I was not induced...

>>

>>

>>

>>Just correcting one little fact:

>>

>> Littleton wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of

>>>the

>>>penis).

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

>>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

>>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

>>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

>>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

>>indirect process.

>>

>>Regards,

>>

>> de Vries

>>

>>

>>

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jromkema wrote:

>Excuse me??? What is the point of this discussion????

>

>

In a discussion about the function of certain hormones, and the effects

of certain supplements on those hormones, a misleading description of a

phsysiological function was made. This led to a discussion about the

nature of the physiological process. So the point of this discussion,

then, is a better understanding of the interplay between certain

hormones, supplements that affect hormones and physical function, and

physiological functioning.

Regards,

de Vries

>Barb

> Re: [ ] I was not induced...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Just correcting one little fact:

>>>

>>> Littleton wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of

>>>>the

>>>>penis).

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

>>>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

>>>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

>>>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

>>>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

>>>indirect process.

>>>

>>>Regards,

>>>

>>> de Vries

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>=======================================================

>>>

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We appreciate adults here. Very valuable to help those who have nonverbal/very

young children to understand what symptoms of mercury poisoning/chelation is

like.

However, the primary focus of this list is helping children with autism.

Discussions such as this are not appropriate for this board, please use the

adult board, and here is why.

I have a 5.0 who was looking over my shoulder this morning reading these posts

and asking what you were talking about.

Re: [ ] I was not induced...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Just correcting one little fact:

>>>

>>> Littleton wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of

>>>>the

>>>>penis).

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

>>>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

>>>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

>>>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

>>>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

>>>indirect process.

>>>

>>>Regards,

>>>

>>> de Vries

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>=======================================================

>>>

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whoops, just posted a response before I read your msg. Sorry. Funny enough,

there is a mercury and kid connection, as I put in my response, but I'd be

happy to take this offline or to another board.

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On Behalf Of Cochran

Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:53 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] I was not induced...

We appreciate adults here. Very valuable to help those who have

nonverbal/very young children to understand what symptoms of mercury

poisoning/chelation is like.

However, the primary focus of this list is helping children with autism.

Discussions such as this are not appropriate for this board, please use the

adult board, and here is why.

I have a 5.0 who was looking over my shoulder this morning reading these

posts and asking what you were talking about.

Re: [ ] I was not induced...

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>Just correcting one little fact:

>>>

>>> Littleton wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles

of

>>>>the

>>>>penis).

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about

blood

>>>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

>>>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time.

It's

>>>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

>>>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

>>>indirect process.

>>>

>>>Regards,

>>>

>>> de Vries

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>=======================================================

>>>

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I'm happy to leave this discussion where it is, at this time. However,

since at least half of the children are boys, understanding of these

issues might likely be relevant to parents with sons with autims too.

This is very clear from 's latest contribution. You might not

consider it appropriate reading material for your five year old, but I'd

rather implement a system of warnings in the subject lines than see

honest discussion of these topics banned.

Regards,

de Vries

Cochran wrote:

>We appreciate adults here. Very valuable to help those who have nonverbal/very

young children to understand what symptoms of mercury poisoning/chelation is

like.

>

>However, the primary focus of this list is helping children with autism.

Discussions such as this are not appropriate for this board, please use the

adult board, and here is why.

>

>I have a 5.0 who was looking over my shoulder this morning reading these posts

and asking what you were talking about.

>

>

> Re: [ ] I was not induced...

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>Just correcting one little fact:

> >>>

> >>> Littleton wrote:

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of

> >>>>the

> >>>>penis).

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

> >>>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

> >>>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

> >>>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

> >>>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

> >>>indirect process.

> >>>

> >>>Regards,

> >>>

> >>> de Vries

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>=======================================================

> >>>

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It has always been the policy of this board, for as long as I have been here, to

discuss adult topics on the adult boards. This board is primarily for parents

who are trying to help their children.

I could be wrong, but I don't think parents of small boys are worried about what

kind and type of erections they have.

If we need clarification of this, we can contact a if need be.

Re: [ ] I was not induced...

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>Just correcting one little fact:

> >>>

> >>> Littleton wrote:

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>>and also was prescribed for good erections (moves the smooth muscles of

> >>>>the

> >>>>penis).

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>There are no muscles of any kind in the penis. Erections are about blood

> >>>flow, and the temporary narrowing of the vessels at the base of the

> >>>penis to keep the blood trapped there for a certain amount of time. It's

> >>>strictly 'hydraulic', there are no muscles involved. Exercise of the

> >>>PC-muscles can increase the potential for erections, but it's an

> >>>indirect process.

> >>>

> >>>Regards,

> >>>

> >>> de Vries

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>=======================================================

> >>>

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