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This could be caused by intestinal bleeding or something similar. Some liver

diseases could cause this too... It could be serious. If the stool is so dark,

it could be that her stomach is bleeding or some other higher part of the

digestive tract.

Is she taking Pepto-Bismol by any chance? or any Iron supplement? From what you

describe I doubt it, but doesn't hurt to ask anyway...

I don't want to scare you, because I don't really know what the problem is, but

I would take this kid to the doctor, because this could be serious. She needs to

determine what causes this color in the stool.

Valentina

> Hoping someone can give some helpul input. Have a friend with a 3 year

old...she has never had a normal stool...not once...showing many signs of being

on the spectrum. Anyway, her stool in the morning is now black and tar-like. She

described it as the consistency of play-doh, but absolutely black. Later in the

day, the little one goes again, only then it's loose, fluffy, yellowy, and

acidic. She wakes up 2-3 times a night screaming and then the whole cycle starts

all over again.

>

> Any ideas? I've finally convinced her to do a hair test, but in the mean time,

do you think the " tar " is actually blood? Thoughts?

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Is she giving some source of synthetic iron? Synthetic iron can cause this type

of stool.

[ ] Tar poops-Need advice for friend

Hoping someone can give some helpul input. Have a friend with a 3 year

old...she has never had a normal stool...not once...showing many signs of being

on the spectrum. Anyway, her stool in the morning is now black and tar-like. She

described it as the consistency of play-doh, but absolutely black. Later in the

day, the little one goes again, only then it's loose, fluffy, yellowy, and

acidic. She wakes up 2-3 times a night screaming and then the whole cycle starts

all over again.

Any ideas? I've finally convinced her to do a hair test, but in the mean time,

do you think the " tar " is actually blood? Thoughts?

Thanks,

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Sadly, this poor child has been going to doctors for years. Tomorrow is her

appointment with a 4th " specialist " . The tar poop just started, and they did do

a stool test, results pending. Not sure what they tested for. We are all really

concerned. I can't imagine that any doctor in their right mind would let this

continue for 3 years...constant diarhea, and not do anything. Thanks for the

input. Oh, and I know she is not on any iron supps because her mom actually is

thinking about putting her on iron because she is so pale.

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From: Valentina Scharpf <val999@...>

> This could be caused by intestinal bleeding or something similar. Some liver

> diseases could cause this too... It could be serious. If the stool is so dark,

> it could be that her stomach is bleeding or some other higher part of the

> digestive tract.

> Is she taking Pepto-Bismol by any chance? or any Iron supplement? From what

you

> describe I doubt it, but doesn't hurt to ask anyway...

> I don't want to scare you, because I don't really know what the problem is,

but

> I would take this kid to the doctor, because this could be serious. She needs

to

> determine what causes this color in the stool.

>

>

> Valentina

>

>

>

> > Hoping someone can give some helpul input. Have a friend with a 3 year

> old...she has never had a normal stool...not once...showing many signs of

being

> on the spectrum. Anyway, her stool in the morning is now black and tar-like.

She

> described it as the consistency of play-doh, but absolutely black. Later in

the

> day, the little one goes again, only then it's loose, fluffy, yellowy, and

> acidic. She wakes up 2-3 times a night screaming and then the whole cycle

starts

> all over again.

> >

> > Any ideas? I've finally convinced her to do a hair test, but in the mean

time,

> do you think the " tar " is actually blood? Thoughts?

>

>

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>

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Anyway, her stool in the morning is now black and tar-like. She

described it as the consistency of play-doh, but absolutely black.

Later in the day, the little one goes again, only then it's loose,

fluffy, yellowy, and acidic. She wakes up 2-3 times a night screaming

and then the whole cycle starts all over again.

I think she needs to see a GI doc. That sounds serious.

Nell

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I agree with Valentina. My little guy had one (and only one) of

those once. It just happened to be on a day when Asher ended up in

the emergency room for an UNRELATED (is any of this really

unrelated?) issue. When the ER doc heard about the black poop, it

concerned him enough that he did an x-ray of Asher's belly.

Incidentally, the x-ray results (no blockage but signs of

inflammation) are what got me on the right track (biomedical). I

would be terrified if this had happened more than once to Asher. I

would get your friend to get her daughter to the doc and get a stool

analysis ASAFP.

Anne

>

> This could be caused by intestinal bleeding or something similar.

Some liver diseases could cause this too... It could be serious. If

the stool is so dark, it could be that her stomach is bleeding or

some other higher part of the digestive tract.

> Is she taking Pepto-Bismol by any chance? or any Iron supplement?

From what you describe I doubt it, but doesn't hurt to ask anyway...

> I don't want to scare you, because I don't really know what the

problem is, but I would take this kid to the doctor, because this

could be serious. She needs to determine what causes this color in

the stool.

>

>

> Valentina

>

>

>

> > Hoping someone can give some helpul input. Have a friend with a 3

year old...she has never had a normal stool...not once...showing many

signs of being on the spectrum. Anyway, her stool in the morning is

now black and tar-like. She described it as the consistency of play-

doh, but absolutely black. Later in the day, the little one goes

again, only then it's loose, fluffy, yellowy, and acidic. She wakes

up 2-3 times a night screaming and then the whole cycle starts all

over again.

> >

> > Any ideas? I've finally convinced her to do a hair test, but in

the mean time, do you think the " tar " is actually blood? Thoughts?

>

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Just read that the docs aren't helping. Maybe give her (or get her)

some enzymes to try? I had a nutritionist I worked with in Chicago

(assume your friend is also in the area?). The nutritionist drove me

a bit crazy, but she works with an alternative doc. Between the two

of them, they got us on the right track (we don't use them anymore,

b/c they weren't in the loop on a lot of the stuff I wanted - LDN,

etc., but might be a good place to start). If your friends want

their names and contact information, let me know. The doc happens to

use Doctor's Data for a lot of stuff, which is good.

Anne

> >

> > This could be caused by intestinal bleeding or something similar.

> Some liver diseases could cause this too... It could be serious. If

> the stool is so dark, it could be that her stomach is bleeding or

> some other higher part of the digestive tract.

> > Is she taking Pepto-Bismol by any chance? or any Iron supplement?

> From what you describe I doubt it, but doesn't hurt to ask anyway...

> > I don't want to scare you, because I don't really know what the

> problem is, but I would take this kid to the doctor, because this

> could be serious. She needs to determine what causes this color in

> the stool.

> >

> >

> > Valentina

> >

> >

> >

> > > Hoping someone can give some helpul input. Have a friend with a

3

> year old...she has never had a normal stool...not once...showing

many

> signs of being on the spectrum. Anyway, her stool in the morning is

> now black and tar-like. She described it as the consistency of play-

> doh, but absolutely black. Later in the day, the little one goes

> again, only then it's loose, fluffy, yellowy, and acidic. She wakes

> up 2-3 times a night screaming and then the whole cycle starts all

> over again.

> > >

> > > Any ideas? I've finally convinced her to do a hair test, but in

> the mean time, do you think the " tar " is actually blood? Thoughts?

> >

>

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> > >

> > > > Hoping someone can give some helpul input. Have a friend with a

> 3

> > year old...she has never had a normal stool...not once...showing

> many

> > signs of being on the spectrum. Anyway, her stool in the morning is

> > now black and tar-like. She described it as the consistency of play-

> > doh, but absolutely black. Later in the day, the little one goes

> > again, only then it's loose, fluffy, yellowy, and acidic. She wakes

> > up 2-3 times a night screaming and then the whole cycle starts all

> > over again.

> > > >

> > > > Any ideas? I've finally convinced her to do a hair test, but in

> > the mean time, do you think the " tar " is actually blood? Thoughts?

> > >

> >

>

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> Hoping someone can give some helpul input. Have a friend with a 3

year old...she has never had a normal stool...not once...showing many

signs of being on the spectrum. Anyway, her stool in the morning is

now black and tar-like. She described it as the consistency of

play-doh, but absolutely black. Later in the day, the little one goes

again, only then it's loose, fluffy, yellowy, and acidic.

This sounds nasty, hopefully a doctor can determine the cause soon.

Here are some ideas:

Black pasty bm can mean liver stress issues. Try giving milk thistle,

see if that helps.

Fluffy and yellow was yeast for my son, and loose and acidic was bad

bacteria. Try adding some probiotics.

Dana

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