Re: Evidence of Harm - activist opportunity

[Guest guest]

Oprah will not ruffle the feathers of Big Pharma.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless

you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

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On Behalf Of oregonscrappers

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:12 AM

Subject: [ ] Evidence of Harm - activist opportunity

Dear All,

This is semi-off topic, but I can't think of a better place to post

this (my twins have mercury poisoning via vaccines, aka " PDD-NOS " ).

I recently emailed Kirby, author of " Evidence of Harm " to

inquire about appearing on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

He replied that he hasn't as of yet, but said there have been

efforts made to do so. Sadly, his efforts have been in vien thus

far. He feels that maybe they need to hear from more parents. I have

contacted the show at least twice in the recent past regarding the

epidemic of behavioral and learning disorders and their link to

vaccines. My hope is that enough parents can email Oprah to

demonstrate there is *great interest* in getting the Mercury-Austim

issue in to the forefront of the public eye. Although efforts are

being made on many fronts of this issue, I know we all feel that

still, not enough people know about it. Everytime I tell someone

what has happened to my boys I receive gasps and shock, most people

have never heard of the vaccine-ASD connection, while *many* of them

are living w/ kids who have these disorders. The Oprah Show is one

of the most effective ways of getting the info out there, to people

all over the world.

Here is a link to email the producer(s) of the show:

http://www2.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml

Take care,

Meg

" Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens

can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. " --

Margaret Mead

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[Guest guest]

Maybe someone who knows someone at a newspaper will get that someone

to write an op ed piece surmising why people as powerful and as

seemingly interested in " justice " as Oprah is won't participate in

the dialogue on this one.... Seems like that is the way to get the

ball rolling.

Anne

>

> Oprah will not ruffle the feathers of Big Pharma.

>

>

>

> Pamela

>

> " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no

courage unless

> you're scared. "

>

> Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto:Autism-

Mercury ]

> On Behalf Of oregonscrappers

> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:12 AM

>

> Subject: [ ] Evidence of Harm - activist opportunity

>

>

>

> Dear All,

>

> This is semi-off topic, but I can't think of a better place to

post

> this (my twins have mercury poisoning via vaccines, aka " PDD-

NOS " ).

> I recently emailed Kirby, author of " Evidence of Harm " to

> inquire about appearing on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

> He replied that he hasn't as of yet, but said there have been

> efforts made to do so. Sadly, his efforts have been in vien thus

> far. He feels that maybe they need to hear from more parents. I

have

> contacted the show at least twice in the recent past regarding the

> epidemic of behavioral and learning disorders and their link to

> vaccines. My hope is that enough parents can email Oprah to

> demonstrate there is *great interest* in getting the Mercury-

Austim

> issue in to the forefront of the public eye. Although efforts are

> being made on many fronts of this issue, I know we all feel that

> still, not enough people know about it. Everytime I tell someone

> what has happened to my boys I receive gasps and shock, most

people

> have never heard of the vaccine-ASD connection, while *many* of

them

> are living w/ kids who have these disorders. The Oprah Show is one

> of the most effective ways of getting the info out there, to

people

> all over the world.

>

> Here is a link to email the producer(s) of the show:

> http://www2.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml

>

> Take care,

>

> Meg

>

> " Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens

> can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever

has. " --

> Margaret Mead

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Dear All,

I too believe that Oprah taking on Big Pharma would require just far

too much courage. I'm still quite new to the lists but certain

statistics stick out for me and perhaps offer another avenue to bring

the issues into greater public debate.

The statistics indicate that 1 in 5 children require special

education services. In my ASD 5 year old child's kindergarten class

it will be approximately 1 in 4 for next year. I read that it is

estimated that approximately 20% of the population have a genetic

inability to process and excrete mercury successfully. That so many

boys (4 to 1 ratio to girls) and of that number 90% are reported to

be blood type A, would it perhaps make some sense to approach the

issue from a cautionary position in that special consideration should

be applied by health care professionals when considering vaccinating

boys of blood type A as these are most susceptible to harm?

I read a report recently of a Chicago-based pediatrics clinic

(30,000) members who had a policy of not vaccinating and there are

reportedly no cases of autism. As this practice would be local to

Oprah, perhaps they could participate in the debate.

Just my thoughts,

Randi

>

> Dear All,

>

> This is semi-off topic, but I can't think of a better place to post

> this (my twins have mercury poisoning via vaccines, aka " PDD-NOS " ).

> I recently emailed Kirby, author of " Evidence of Harm " to

> inquire about appearing on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

> He replied that he hasn't as of yet, but said there have been

> efforts made to do so. Sadly, his efforts have been in vien thus

> far. He feels that maybe they need to hear from more parents. I

have

> contacted the show at least twice in the recent past regarding the

> epidemic of behavioral and learning disorders and their link to

> vaccines. My hope is that enough parents can email Oprah to

> demonstrate there is *great interest* in getting the Mercury-Austim

> issue in to the forefront of the public eye. Although efforts are

> being made on many fronts of this issue, I know we all feel that

> still, not enough people know about it. Everytime I tell someone

> what has happened to my boys I receive gasps and shock, most people

> have never heard of the vaccine-ASD connection, while *many* of

them

> are living w/ kids who have these disorders. The Oprah Show is one

> of the most effective ways of getting the info out there, to people

> all over the world.

>

> Here is a link to email the producer(s) of the show:

> http://www2.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml

>

> Take care,

>

> Meg

>

> " Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens

> can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. " -

-

> Margaret Mead

>

[Guest guest]

Much more diplomatic than my suggestion of public humiliation :-)

Anne

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > This is semi-off topic, but I can't think of a better place to

post

> > this (my twins have mercury poisoning via vaccines, aka " PDD-

NOS " ).

> > I recently emailed Kirby, author of " Evidence of Harm " to

> > inquire about appearing on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

> > He replied that he hasn't as of yet, but said there have been

> > efforts made to do so. Sadly, his efforts have been in vien thus

> > far. He feels that maybe they need to hear from more parents. I

> have

> > contacted the show at least twice in the recent past regarding

the

> > epidemic of behavioral and learning disorders and their link to

> > vaccines. My hope is that enough parents can email Oprah to

> > demonstrate there is *great interest* in getting the Mercury-

Austim

> > issue in to the forefront of the public eye. Although efforts

are

> > being made on many fronts of this issue, I know we all feel that

> > still, not enough people know about it. Everytime I tell

someone

> > what has happened to my boys I receive gasps and shock, most

people

> > have never heard of the vaccine-ASD connection, while *many* of

> them

> > are living w/ kids who have these disorders. The Oprah Show is

one

> > of the most effective ways of getting the info out there, to

people

> > all over the world.

> >

> > Here is a link to email the producer(s) of the show:

> > http://www2.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > Meg

> >

> > " Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed

citizens

> > can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever

has. " -

> -

> > Margaret Mead

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This has nothing to do with a quest for justice. This has everything to do with

the reverse Midas touch. Fan or hers or not, Oprah has serious credibility

issues. What was the book she pimped then they found out it was a complete

fraud? She did damage control, but it still sticks to her operation.

Evidence of Harm is current events, not coffee table fluff.

[ ] Evidence of Harm - activist opportunity

>

>

>

> Dear All,

>

> This is semi-off topic, but I can't think of a better place to

post

> this (my twins have mercury poisoning via vaccines, aka " PDD-

NOS " ).

> I recently emailed Kirby, author of " Evidence of Harm " to

> inquire about appearing on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

> He replied that he hasn't as of yet, but said there have been

> efforts made to do so. Sadly, his efforts have been in vien thus

> far. He feels that maybe they need to hear from more parents. I

have

> contacted the show at least twice in the recent past regarding the

> epidemic of behavioral and learning disorders and their link to

> vaccines. My hope is that enough parents can email Oprah to

> demonstrate there is *great interest* in getting the Mercury-

Austim

> issue in to the forefront of the public eye. Although efforts are

> being made on many fronts of this issue, I know we all feel that

> still, not enough people know about it. Everytime I tell someone

> what has happened to my boys I receive gasps and shock, most

people

> have never heard of the vaccine-ASD connection, while *many* of

them

> are living w/ kids who have these disorders. The Oprah Show is one

> of the most effective ways of getting the info out there, to

people

> all over the world.

>

> Here is a link to email the producer(s) of the show:

> http://www2.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml

>

> Take care,

>

> Meg

>

> " Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens

> can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever

has. " --

> Margaret Mead

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

I think that as a general rule, couching the autism-thimerosal

connection in larger terms like " the effects of vaccines on

developmental delays " or " the disproportional influence of the

pharmaceutical lobby on the American electoral system " or something

like that will get more attention from the public.

People who are not affected by autism or mercury-poisoning directly

will have to realize that these connections have wider consequences

that go beyond the interests of a few subgroups in society and can

come and bite them in the foot one day too. Unfortunately, 1 in 166

is still not seen as a big deal. But it would become a different

story if one thinks of ADD, ADHD, LD, OCD and so on in the same

group of neurological disorders that are possible casued by a

ridiculous vaccination schedule and, say, the takeover of healthcare

by a rampant free market mentality that puts mercury in vaccines to

preserve them because alternatives would reduce their profit margin.

In 2006 congressional and 2008 presidential elections this should be

made an issue that grabs the attention of the larger public and I'm

afraid that focusig on autism alone might not do the trick. I hope

I'm wrong.

Beti

> > >

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > This is semi-off topic, but I can't think of a better place to

> post

> > > this (my twins have mercury poisoning via vaccines, aka " PDD-

> NOS " ).

> > > I recently emailed Kirby, author of " Evidence of Harm "

to

> > > inquire about appearing on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

> > > He replied that he hasn't as of yet, but said there have been

> > > efforts made to do so. Sadly, his efforts have been in vien

thus

> > > far. He feels that maybe they need to hear from more parents.

I

> > have

> > > contacted the show at least twice in the recent past regarding

> the

> > > epidemic of behavioral and learning disorders and their link

to

> > > vaccines. My hope is that enough parents can email Oprah to

> > > demonstrate there is *great interest* in getting the Mercury-

> Austim

> > > issue in to the forefront of the public eye. Although efforts

> are

> > > being made on many fronts of this issue, I know we all feel

that

> > > still, not enough people know about it. Everytime I tell

> someone

> > > what has happened to my boys I receive gasps and shock, most

> people

> > > have never heard of the vaccine-ASD connection, while *many*

of

> > them

> > > are living w/ kids who have these disorders. The Oprah Show is

> one

> > > of the most effective ways of getting the info out there, to

> people

> > > all over the world.

> > >

> > > Here is a link to email the producer(s) of the show:

> > > http://www2.oprah.com/email/reach/email_showideas.jhtml

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > >

> > > Meg

> > >

> > > " Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed

> citizens

> > > can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever

> has. " -

> > -

> > > Margaret Mead

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

She won't do this because they are sending vaccinations to Africa. Now

autism is now on the rise.... multivials of thimerosal laden vaccinations.

She may think she is doing good by not ruffling feathers now, but when it

becomes more evident there.... she may get on board. Last year I sent to

her show an e-mail with the article on autism on the rise in Africa and I

did not receive a response. Maybe we need to all e-mail her on the same day

as we call in to DC on scheduled times.... just a thought. Jackie---

> Oprah will not ruffle the feathers of Big Pharma.

[Guest guest]

Oprah has visited some tough, contraversial local & international

affairs on her show - to name a few: female circumcision, genocide,

famine, and the contraversy surrounding government delay/failure

regarding Katrina disaster reaction. I feel that her resistance to

do a show on ASD is most likely due to Pharma politics, this makes

the most sense. I am sure she has her lawyers detering her from any

such topic, especially since the backlash and trial time she faced

when she indirectly knocked the beef industry on her show a few

years back.

I do agree however, that if as many of us as possible contact her,

she can not ignore such a great public plea. She could approve this

issue from the angle of an epidemic, with guests speaking to the

issue from all angles. The mercury-ASD issue could *at least* be

brought up and out in the open, even if the discussion became one-

sided (Big Pharma).

Meg

>

> This has nothing to do with a quest for justice. This has

everything to do with the reverse Midas touch. Fan or hers or not,

Oprah has serious credibility issues. What was the book she pimped

then they found out it was a complete fraud? She did damage control,

but it still sticks to her operation.

[Guest guest]

I think that's how Montel approached it when he had Kirby on; from

both sides...never realized why, now it makes sense...it was good to get the

info out there either way, good point.

Carol

[ ] Re: Evidence of Harm - activist opportunity

> Oprah has visited some tough, contraversial local & international

> affairs on her show - to name a few: female circumcision, genocide,

> famine, and the contraversy surrounding government delay/failure

> regarding Katrina disaster reaction. I feel that her resistance to

> do a show on ASD is most likely due to Pharma politics, this makes

> the most sense. I am sure she has her lawyers detering her from any

> such topic, especially since the backlash and trial time she faced

> when she indirectly knocked the beef industry on her show a few

> years back.

>

> I do agree however, that if as many of us as possible contact her,

> she can not ignore such a great public plea. She could approve this

> issue from the angle of an epidemic, with guests speaking to the

> issue from all angles. The mercury-ASD issue could *at least* be

> brought up and out in the open, even if the discussion became one-

> sided (Big Pharma).

>

> Meg

>

>

>

>

>>

>> This has nothing to do with a quest for justice. This has

> everything to do with the reverse Midas touch. Fan or hers or not,

> Oprah has serious credibility issues. What was the book she pimped

> then they found out it was a complete fraud? She did damage control,

> but it still sticks to her operation.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I think that as a general rule, couching the autism-thimerosal

> connection in larger terms like " the effects of vaccines on

> developmental delays " or " the disproportional influence of the

> pharmaceutical lobby on the American electoral system " or

something

> like that will get more attention from the public.

>

> People who are not affected by autism or mercury-poisoning

directly

> will have to realize that these connections have wider

consequences

> that go beyond the interests of a few subgroups in society and can

> come and bite them in the foot one day too. Unfortunately, 1 in

166

> is still not seen as a big deal. But it would become a different

> story if one thinks of ADD, ADHD, LD, OCD and so on in the same

> group of neurological disorders that are possible casued by a

> ridiculous vaccination schedule and, say, the takeover of

healthcare

> by a rampant free market mentality that puts mercury in vaccines

to

> preserve them because alternatives would reduce their profit

margin.

>

> In 2006 congressional and 2008 presidential elections this should

be

> made an issue that grabs the attention of the larger public and

I'm

> afraid that focusig on autism alone might not do the trick. I hope

> I'm wrong.

>

> Beti

Pharma knows what disorders were/are caused by thimerosal. So by the

Autism group not opening the flood gates to ALL the disorders caused

by thimerosal (including those who were poisoned in utero by

thimerosal) They are only doing Pharma a favor. Adults as well as

babies are effected by thimerosal. I wish someone would start a

National Group for mercury poisoning. This is NOT about winning damn

lawsuits, This is about saving a childs life...Or it should be

anyways.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Which brings up a very important point. I know we are all up to our

necks right now just helping our own families, but there may come a

time when things are better for our children and we will not be on

duty 24/7. At that point it will be time to think about what we can

do for children with ASD in third world countries. Yeah, a little

overwhelming to say the least, but who better than parents on this

list? Many of us are helping our children with little in the way of

super-expensive testing or Rx medications, and this is the kind of

experience that would be completely necessary. Just in case you all

weren't feeling like you had enough to do yet :-).

Please think about it, though.

René

>

> She won't do this because they are sending vaccinations to Africa.

Now

> autism is now on the rise.... multivials of thimerosal laden

vaccinations.

> She may think she is doing good by not ruffling feathers now, but

when it

> becomes more evident there.... she may get on board. Last year I

sent to

> her show an e-mail with the article on autism on the rise in Africa

and I

> did not receive a response. Maybe we need to all e-mail her on the

same day

> as we call in to DC on scheduled times.... just a thought. Jackie---

>

> > Oprah will not ruffle the feathers of Big Pharma.

>