Re: HELP!!! Infant dx with strep, Dr. wants to do antibiotics

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Colloidal silver is one of the best ways to get rid of strep. You can find it

just about any health food store.

Michele <talithamichele@...> wrote: You do not need antibiotics at all

for strep. In Germany, they do not

prescribe them for strep. The reason they pass out antibiotics for strep in

the U.S. is to prevent the possibility of Scarlet Fever, where it settles in

the heart and causes serious long-term problems. As I understand it, only a

tiny percentage turns to Scarlet Fever.

If you want to do something at home, you could try chamomile poultice: one

or two chamomile steeped teabags while still warm (but not hot) against the

skin for 15 to 45 minutes, 1 to 3 times a day. Maybe put them inside the

diaper to get the right amount of contact? But make sure you press your

fingers or wrist hard into them when checking temperature -- what feels warm

to the touch with a light touch can scald when pressed against the skin

firmly for a poultice.

Please note that I am guessing at " doses " -- I used much larger amounts for

myself and my teenagers. I did do this 1 to 3 times per day but I used 5 to

10 teabags, which would be way too much for a baby. I have not tried it

with step but chamomile seems to be a broad spectrum antibiotic. I have

also had good results with mint teas, but they were never as strong as

chamomile.

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Also, kidney disease is a consideration. I got nephritis at age 7 from untreated

strep. I was admitted to the hospital where there were more than a few kids with

rheumatic fever due to untreated strep.

I know this is a hard call, I don't like antibiotics, but sometimes they are

needed. I was lucky, they told my parents that I would have life long kidney

problems, would never be able to have kids. As it was I spent 7 months in the

hospital and another year in bed, at home. Not to be taken lightly, at all.

[ ] HELP!!! Infant dx with strep, Dr. wants to do

antibiotics

You do not need antibiotics at all for strep. In Germany, they do not

prescribe them for strep. The reason they pass out antibiotics for strep in

the U.S. is to prevent the possibility of Scarlet Fever, where it settles in

the heart and causes serious long-term problems. As I understand it, only a

tiny percentage turns to Scarlet Fever.

If you want to do something at home, you could try chamomile poultice: one

or two chamomile steeped teabags while still warm (but not hot) against the

skin for 15 to 45 minutes, 1 to 3 times a day. Maybe put them inside the

diaper to get the right amount of contact? But make sure you press your

fingers or wrist hard into them when checking temperature -- what feels warm

to the touch with a light touch can scald when pressed against the skin

firmly for a poultice.

Please note that I am guessing at " doses " -- I used much larger amounts for

myself and my teenagers. I did do this 1 to 3 times per day but I used 5 to

10 teabags, which would be way too much for a baby. I have not tried it

with step but chamomile seems to be a broad spectrum antibiotic. I have

also had good results with mint teas, but they were never as strong as

chamomile.

--

Michele in Limbo (formerly in California)

talithamichele@...

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http://www.califmichele.com

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Months ago I read in a magazine from the health food store that

Quassia extracts have been found to fight E.Coli and Strep. I have

never heard of that herb before reading that article, but it stuck in

my head.

Strep can be brutal for kids. I'm sorry I don't have any great

advice for you.

If you do have to give an antibiotic, can you do injection to bypass

the gut? And remember the probiotics.

Hopefully, soon, someone with experience can give you better advice

than I can.

Take care,

a

>

> Please HELP! My infant has strep, the Dr. wants to give

antibiotics! My 7

> year old son had antibiotics at an early age when he was an infant,

and I think

> it had a lot to do with his regression and autism. Are there

natural ways to

> treat strep? I'm so afraid to give antibiotics to my infant! This

is like

> reliving a nightmare! Any advise would be so welcome!

> Thanks so much!

> ~Sharon

>

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I agree with . Since it is an infant, I know that you have to give a

specific strain of probiotics for infants. My friend had to give her infant

son (2 months old) antibiotics and when I called my ND he told me infants

digestive systems are different than our and they need the Bifidobacterium

lactis (formerly known as B. infantis)

We use Metagenics Ultra Flora Plus DF Capsules.

I would consult a ND before giving something other then probiotics

along with the antibiotic. They can be the best resource to giving natural

products to an infant. Let us know how things work out.

Jackie---

> Also, kidney disease is a consideration. I got nephritis at age 7 from

> untreated strep. I was admitted to the hospital where there were more than

> a few kids with rheumatic fever due to untreated strep.

>

> I know this is a hard call, I don't like antibiotics, but sometimes they

> are needed. I was lucky, they told my parents that I would have life long

> kidney problems, would never be able to have kids. As it was I spent 7

> months in the hospital and another year in bed, at home. Not to be taken

> lightly, at all.

>

>

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I agree with .. My Grandfather developed Rheumatic Fever from

untreated strep when he was 12 years old. It left him with heart

problems. My Grandfather passed away from heart trouble when he was

just 54 years old. Strep can be very serious.

Donna

>

> Also, kidney disease is a consideration. I got nephritis at age 7

from untreated strep. I was admitted to the hospital where there were

more than a few kids with rheumatic fever due to untreated strep.

>

> I know this is a hard call, I don't like antibiotics, but sometimes

they are needed. I was lucky, they told my parents that I would have

life long kidney problems, would never be able to have kids. As it was

I spent 7 months in the hospital and another year in bed, at home. Not

to be taken lightly, at all.

>

>

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>

> Please HELP! My infant has strep, the Dr. wants to give antibiotics!

When my #4 had strep, she was rx Zithromax. The ped said the boys

would get it also, because it was very contagious. I gave them OLE,

and they never got strep.

Dana

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>

> Please HELP! My infant has strep, the Dr. wants to give antibiotics!

When my #4 had strep, she was rx Zithromax. The ped said the boys

would get it also, because it was very contagious. I gave them OLE,

and they never got strep.

Dana

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> >

> > Please HELP! My infant has strep, the Dr. wants to give

antibiotics!

>

>

> When my #4 had strep, she was rx Zithromax. The ped said the boys

> would get it also, because it was very contagious. I gave them OLE,

> and they never got strep.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

We've done well treating strep in the past with antibiotics given by

shot. My guys have major yeast issues, and bypassing the gut is

significant for us.

Good luck,

Lucile

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>>When my #4 had strep, she was rx Zithromax. The ped said the boys

would get it also, because it was very contagious. I gave them OLE,

and they never got strep.

>>Dana

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Slightly OT (and really not intending to scare anyone): Zithromax has been

known to cause liver failure in some people, ultimately resulting in death

(usually a few months later, as I understand it). I am not " against "

zithromax. I have taken it MANY times -- was on it a whole lot the year I

nearly died and it was one of the most effective antibiotics I took that

year. Without it, I imagine I would have died. Zithromax is highly

recommended for CF (cystic fibrosis) patients (like me) because of the

powerful anti-inflammatory properties it has. It is my " drug of choice " if

I have to have anti-biotics. I simply love the stuff. (For me, it is much

more effective than Biaxin, even though Biaxin is supposedly stronger and is

also a " recommended drug " for CF patients -- again, because of its

anti-inflammatory properties.) But when you take drugs, you risk unexpected

drug side-effects. For that and other reasons, I believe in avoiding

prescription antibiotics if it is possible to reasonably do so without

unnecessarily endangering the patient. I use herbal remedies and other

alternatives whenever possible and have used them to successfully avoid

going to the ER on many occasions.

YMMV of course,

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If it makes you feel any better, my NT 8 yr old had antibiotics twice

before her first birthday. I think a big key to it is NOT to allow any

vaccines within weeks (at least) of the antibiotics, because

antibiotics are poor chelators -- they help draw the metals in, but

suck at helping to excrete.

Also, make sure if the antibiotics are needed that you have a good

yeast plan. Avoiding a yeast problem in the gut can be key, insist on

a nystatin prescrip & keep on breast feeding....

HTH,

Debi

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> Slightly OT (and really not intending to scare anyone): Zithromax

has been

> known to cause liver failure in some people,

#4 is my NT child, and she is fully chelated and is fully loaded with

all supplements. I wanted to start with just OLE for her, but it was

Friday and my husband wanted her to see a ped that day, rather than

having to wait for Monday. So I let him take her.

In general, I don't take my kids to doctors unless I have tried

natural/alternative things first.

Dana

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>>#4 is my NT child, and she is fully chelated and is fully loaded with

all supplements. I wanted to start with just OLE for her, but it was

Friday and my husband wanted her to see a ped that day, rather than

having to wait for Monday. So I let him take her.

>>In general, I don't take my kids to doctors unless I have tried

natural/alternative things first.

>>Dana

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lol. It wasn't in any way a criticism of your choice. Just a thought which

occurred to me. If anything, I was agreeing with your suggestion of OLE to

avoid the antibiotics if possible.

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Michele in Limbo (formerly in California)

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> lol. It wasn't in any way a criticism of your choice.

It was my husband's choice, definitely not mine!

Dana