Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Some people on other lists I have read use it and like it. I bought it before I found this group and never used it. I'm glad, but that's just me. -------------- Original message -------------- From: " jakesbaba " <jakesbaba@...> > I am sure many of you have ran across this already. I am new to the > group and just wondering about what i read (only on sales sites) on > something called PCA-RX. Does this stuff actually work? > > > thanks, john > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 I'm using it right now with two children. I'm spraying 4 in the am and 4 in the pm and run a test on the 17th day thr Doctor's Data. We just ran a baseline with no challenge and then ran a DMPS challenge (I won't use DMSA) and it produced some small levels of metals (but because there were 4 + metals it's considered a moderate burden) but I'm certain the PCA challenge will show more (as you successfully pull out one metal the PCA then begins to work on pulling out another and so on until you reaches...the website has the levels of affinity listed or you can call them). Not to mention the behavior of my son with autism is awesome whereas with the DMPS/DMSA we had challenging behaviors. PCA doesn't bind out essential element, BTW, an issue for us because of his exposure to lead in a home we lived in. Lead stored, calcium was therefore frighteningly low. I have to watch that and is one reason I won't do the DMSA...it pulled out calcium quickly. PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium. I also use the AV-RX for viral activity. The Bio-guard is for yeast and bacteria. They have AF Autism Factor... These can be expensive BUT in bulk and with the aid of a licensed healthcare professional you can get a significant discount. You might see if you can get a free product by sending a copy of test results. Anyway, that's my story...well, a little anyway. But there is more than one way to " get the lead out. " I just can't use a toxin to pull out a toxin...he does NOT do well. Feel free to write off-list with questions. I found this interesting: http://smart-nutrition.net/carnosine-autism-research.htm http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/amino_acids/l_carnosine/l_carnosine277_90.ht\ ml Here, again, we are talking about agents that are natural to the body and help to detoxify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Moria has a file on people's comments on their experiences with various known chelators and various products advertised as or claimed to be chelators. Perhaps someone can direct you to that file. S S <tt> I am sure many of you have ran across this already. I am new to the <BR> group and just wondering about what i read (only on sales sites) on <BR> something called PCA-RX. Does this stuff actually work?<BR> <BR> <BR> thanks, john<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Look under " Andy dose sched " under files...this will direct you to Moria's site. > > <tt> > I am sure many of you have ran across this already. I am new to the <BR> > group and just wondering about what i read (only on sales sites) on <BR> > something called PCA-RX. Does this stuff actually work?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > thanks, john<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <br><br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 > > <tt> > I am sure many of you have ran across this already. I am new to the <BR> > group and just wondering about what i read (only on sales sites) on <BR> > something called PCA-RX. Does this stuff actually work?<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > thanks, john<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <br><br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 : A different question, do you feel the AV-Rx is helping reduce the viral load in your children? Do you see a difference at all using this product? Thanks. Kim > > I'm using it right now with two children. I'm spraying 4 in the am > and 4 in the pm and run a test on the 17th day thr Doctor's Data. We > just ran a baseline with no challenge and then ran a DMPS challenge (I > won't use DMSA) and it produced some small levels of metals (but > because there were 4 + metals it's considered a moderate burden) but > I'm certain the PCA challenge will show more (as you successfully pull > out one metal the PCA then begins to work on pulling out another and > so on until you reaches...the website has the levels of affinity > listed or you can call them). Not to mention the behavior of my son > with autism is awesome whereas with the DMPS/DMSA we had challenging > behaviors. PCA doesn't bind out essential element, BTW, an issue for > us because of his exposure to lead in a home we lived in. > Lead stored, calcium was therefore frighteningly low. I have to > watch that and is one reason I won't do the DMSA...it pulled out > calcium quickly. PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it > and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on > it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium. > > I also use the AV-RX for viral activity. The Bio-guard is for yeast > and bacteria. They have AF Autism Factor... These can be expensive > BUT in bulk and with the aid of a licensed healthcare professional you > can get a significant discount. You might see if you can get a free > product by sending a copy of test results. > > Anyway, that's my story...well, a little anyway. But there is more > than one way to " get the lead out. " I just can't use a toxin to pull > out a toxin...he does NOT do well. Feel free to write off-list with > questions. > > I found this interesting: > http://smart-nutrition.net/carnosine-autism-research.htm > http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/amino_acids/l_carnosine/l_carnosin e277_90.html > > Here, again, we are talking about agents that are natural to the body > and help to detoxify. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 >>>>Did you do a challenge test with PCA? I'm using it right now with two children. I'm spraying 4 in the am and 4 in the pm and run a test on the 17th day thr Doctor's Data. We just ran a baseline with no challenge and then ran a DMPS challenge (I won't use DMSA) and it produced some small levels of metals (but because there were 4 + metals it's considered a moderate burden) but I'm certain the PCA challenge will show more (as you successfully pull out one metal the PCA then begins to work on pulling out another and so on until you reaches...the website has the levels of affinity listed or you can call them). Not to mention the behavior of my son with autism is awesome whereas with the DMPS/DMSA we had challenging behaviors. PCA doesn't bind out essential element, BTW, an issue for us because of his exposure to lead in a home we lived in. Lead stored, calcium was therefore frighteningly low. I have to watch that and is one reason I won't do the DMSA...it pulled out calcium quickly. PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium. I also use the AV-RX for viral activity. The Bio-guard is for yeast and bacteria. They have AF Autism Factor... These can be expensive BUT in bulk and with the aid of a licensed healthcare professional you can get a significant discount. You might see if you can get a free product by sending a copy of test results. Anyway, that's my story...well, a little anyway. But there is more than one way to " get the lead out. " I just can't use a toxin to pull out a toxin...he does NOT do well. Feel free to write off-list with questions. I found this interesting: http://smart-nutrition.net/carnosine-autism-research.htm http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/amino_acids/l_carnosine/l_carnosine277_90.ht\ ml Here, again, we are talking about agents that are natural to the body and help to detoxify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 > > > >>>>Did you do a challenge test with PCA? > > I'm using it right now with two children. I'm spraying 4 in the am > and 4 in the pm and run a test on the 17th day thr Doctor's Data. Monday is our 17th day and I'll run the test then. I'll be happy to share results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 > > : A different question, do you feel the AV-Rx is helping > reduce the viral load in your children? Do you see a difference at > all using this product? Thanks. Kim > We saw Dr. in Austin and his assessment was that both children had no viral activity that he could see. His work centers around detoxing and eliminating viral loads which causes sensory disfuction. I told him I had stopped the Valtrex and was using AV-Rx...his told me whatever I was using was working. I use it when the kids get a virus or a cold sore and it seems to clear things up quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 >>>>How did you know PCA pulled out mercury the first time you used it? PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 I sprayed it for 30 days and ran a urine test through Doctor's Data... > > > > >>>>How did you know PCA pulled out mercury the first time you used it? > > PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it > and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on > it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 dmsa alone is not noted to pull mercury in any great quantity. ALA is better suited for that. dmsa is good for lead though. I can't say that chlorella is going to handle lead or any other metal. Is does move mercury, can't say it removes it. I am sure this products does something, maybe useful for many. If anyone had trouble with minerals using dmsa that is because you are supposed to supplement minerals. This goes again with safe chelation protocols. Unsafe ones produce unsafe results. And as always, there are some kids who just do better on different things. Myself, I am always wary of one stop fix all products. I would suggest checking the archives though. I am sure I have seen many posts on this product and various experiences. www.onibasu.com > > > > > > > > >>>>How did you know PCA pulled out mercury the first time you used it? > > > > PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it > > and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on > > it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Dmsa, does pull lead and mercury, some kids have recovered using ONLY Dmsa, can't explain that, but it's been reported. [ ] Re: The real deal or a waste of money? PCA-RX dmsa alone is not noted to pull mercury in any great quantity. ALA is better suited for that. dmsa is good for lead though. I can't say that chlorella is going to handle lead or any other metal. Is does move mercury, can't say it removes it. I am sure this products does something, maybe useful for many. If anyone had trouble with minerals using dmsa that is because you are supposed to supplement minerals. This goes again with safe chelation protocols. Unsafe ones produce unsafe results. And as always, there are some kids who just do better on different things. Myself, I am always wary of one stop fix all products. I would suggest checking the archives though. I am sure I have seen many posts on this product and various experiences. www.onibasu.com > > > > > > > > >>>>How did you know PCA pulled out mercury the first time you used it? > > > > PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it > > and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on > > it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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