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Some people on other lists I have read use it and like it. I bought it before I

found this group and never used it. I'm glad, but that's just me.

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> I am sure many of you have ran across this already. I am new to the

> group and just wondering about what i read (only on sales sites) on

> something called PCA-RX. Does this stuff actually work?

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> thanks, john

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I'm using it right now with two children. I'm spraying 4 in the am

and 4 in the pm and run a test on the 17th day thr Doctor's Data. We

just ran a baseline with no challenge and then ran a DMPS challenge (I

won't use DMSA) and it produced some small levels of metals (but

because there were 4 + metals it's considered a moderate burden) but

I'm certain the PCA challenge will show more (as you successfully pull

out one metal the PCA then begins to work on pulling out another and

so on until you reaches...the website has the levels of affinity

listed or you can call them). Not to mention the behavior of my son

with autism is awesome whereas with the DMPS/DMSA we had challenging

behaviors. PCA doesn't bind out essential element, BTW, an issue for

us because of his exposure to lead in a home we lived in.

Lead stored, calcium was therefore frighteningly low. I have to

watch that and is one reason I won't do the DMSA...it pulled out

calcium quickly. PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it

and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on

it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium.

I also use the AV-RX for viral activity. The Bio-guard is for yeast

and bacteria. They have AF Autism Factor... These can be expensive

BUT in bulk and with the aid of a licensed healthcare professional you

can get a significant discount. You might see if you can get a free

product by sending a copy of test results.

Anyway, that's my story...well, a little anyway. But there is more

than one way to " get the lead out. " I just can't use a toxin to pull

out a toxin...he does NOT do well. Feel free to write off-list with

questions.

I found this interesting:

http://smart-nutrition.net/carnosine-autism-research.htm

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/amino_acids/l_carnosine/l_carnosine277_90.ht\

ml

Here, again, we are talking about agents that are natural to the body

and help to detoxify.

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Moria has a file on people's comments on their experiences with various known

chelators and various products advertised as or claimed to be chelators.

Perhaps someone can direct you to that file.

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I am sure many of you have ran across this already. I am new to the <BR>

group and just wondering about what i read (only on sales sites) on <BR>

something called PCA-RX. Does this stuff actually work?<BR>

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thanks, john<BR>

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Look under " Andy dose sched " under files...this will direct you to

Moria's site.

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> I am sure many of you have ran across this already. I am new to

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> group and just wondering about what i read (only on sales sites)

on <BR>

> something called PCA-RX. Does this stuff actually work?<BR>

> <BR>

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> thanks, john<BR>

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> I am sure many of you have ran across this already. I am new to

the <BR>

> group and just wondering about what i read (only on sales sites)

on <BR>

> something called PCA-RX. Does this stuff actually work?<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> thanks, john<BR>

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: A different question, do you feel the AV-Rx is helping

reduce the viral load in your children? Do you see a difference at

all using this product? Thanks. Kim

>

> I'm using it right now with two children. I'm spraying 4 in the am

> and 4 in the pm and run a test on the 17th day thr Doctor's Data.

We

> just ran a baseline with no challenge and then ran a DMPS challenge

(I

> won't use DMSA) and it produced some small levels of metals (but

> because there were 4 + metals it's considered a moderate burden) but

> I'm certain the PCA challenge will show more (as you successfully

pull

> out one metal the PCA then begins to work on pulling out another and

> so on until you reaches...the website has the levels of affinity

> listed or you can call them). Not to mention the behavior of my son

> with autism is awesome whereas with the DMPS/DMSA we had challenging

> behaviors. PCA doesn't bind out essential element, BTW, an issue

for

> us because of his exposure to lead in a home we lived in.

> Lead stored, calcium was therefore frighteningly low. I have to

> watch that and is one reason I won't do the DMSA...it pulled out

> calcium quickly. PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used

it

> and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was

on

> it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium.

>

> I also use the AV-RX for viral activity. The Bio-guard is for yeast

> and bacteria. They have AF Autism Factor... These can be expensive

> BUT in bulk and with the aid of a licensed healthcare professional

you

> can get a significant discount. You might see if you can get a free

> product by sending a copy of test results.

>

> Anyway, that's my story...well, a little anyway. But there is more

> than one way to " get the lead out. " I just can't use a toxin to

pull

> out a toxin...he does NOT do well. Feel free to write off-list with

> questions.

>

> I found this interesting:

> http://smart-nutrition.net/carnosine-autism-research.htm

>

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/amino_acids/l_carnosine/l_carnosin

e277_90.html

>

> Here, again, we are talking about agents that are natural to the

body

> and help to detoxify.

>

>

>

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>>>>Did you do a challenge test with PCA?

I'm using it right now with two children. I'm spraying 4 in the am

and 4 in the pm and run a test on the 17th day thr Doctor's Data. We

just ran a baseline with no challenge and then ran a DMPS challenge (I

won't use DMSA) and it produced some small levels of metals (but

because there were 4 + metals it's considered a moderate burden) but

I'm certain the PCA challenge will show more (as you successfully pull

out one metal the PCA then begins to work on pulling out another and

so on until you reaches...the website has the levels of affinity

listed or you can call them). Not to mention the behavior of my son

with autism is awesome whereas with the DMPS/DMSA we had challenging

behaviors. PCA doesn't bind out essential element, BTW, an issue for

us because of his exposure to lead in a home we lived in.

Lead stored, calcium was therefore frighteningly low. I have to

watch that and is one reason I won't do the DMSA...it pulled out

calcium quickly. PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it

and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on

it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium.

I also use the AV-RX for viral activity. The Bio-guard is for yeast

and bacteria. They have AF Autism Factor... These can be expensive

BUT in bulk and with the aid of a licensed healthcare professional you

can get a significant discount. You might see if you can get a free

product by sending a copy of test results.

Anyway, that's my story...well, a little anyway. But there is more

than one way to " get the lead out. " I just can't use a toxin to pull

out a toxin...he does NOT do well. Feel free to write off-list with

questions.

I found this interesting:

http://smart-nutrition.net/carnosine-autism-research.htm

http://www.kirkmanlabs.com/products/amino_acids/l_carnosine/l_carnosine277_90.ht\

ml

Here, again, we are talking about agents that are natural to the body

and help to detoxify.

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> >>>>Did you do a challenge test with PCA?

>

> I'm using it right now with two children. I'm spraying 4 in the am

> and 4 in the pm and run a test on the 17th day thr Doctor's Data.

Monday is our 17th day and I'll run the test then. I'll be happy to

share results.

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> : A different question, do you feel the AV-Rx is helping

> reduce the viral load in your children? Do you see a difference at

> all using this product? Thanks. Kim

>

We saw Dr. in Austin and his assessment was that both children

had no viral activity that he could see. His work centers around

detoxing and eliminating viral loads which causes sensory disfuction.

I told him I had stopped the Valtrex and was using AV-Rx...his told

me whatever I was using was working. I use it when the kids get a

virus or a cold sore and it seems to clear things up quickly.

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>>>>How did you know PCA pulled out mercury the first time you used it?

PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it

and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on

it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium.

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I sprayed it for 30 days and ran a urine test through Doctor's Data...

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> >>>>How did you know PCA pulled out mercury the first time you used it?

>

> PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it

> and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he was on

> it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium.

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dmsa alone is not noted to pull mercury in any great quantity. ALA is

better suited for that.

dmsa is good for lead though. I can't say that chlorella is going to

handle lead or any other metal. Is does move mercury, can't say it

removes it. I am sure this products does something, maybe useful for

many. If anyone had trouble with minerals using dmsa that is because

you are supposed to supplement minerals. This goes again with safe

chelation protocols. Unsafe ones produce unsafe results. And as

always, there are some kids who just do better on different things.

Myself, I am always wary of one stop fix all products. I would suggest

checking the archives though. I am sure I have seen many posts on this

product and various experiences. www.onibasu.com

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> > >>>>How did you know PCA pulled out mercury the first time you

used it?

> >

> > PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it

> > and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he

was on

> > it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium.

> >

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Dmsa, does pull lead and mercury, some kids have recovered using ONLY Dmsa,

can't explain that, but it's been reported.

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dmsa alone is not noted to pull mercury in any great quantity. ALA is

better suited for that.

dmsa is good for lead though. I can't say that chlorella is going to

handle lead or any other metal. Is does move mercury, can't say it

removes it. I am sure this products does something, maybe useful for

many. If anyone had trouble with minerals using dmsa that is because

you are supposed to supplement minerals. This goes again with safe

chelation protocols. Unsafe ones produce unsafe results. And as

always, there are some kids who just do better on different things.

Myself, I am always wary of one stop fix all products. I would suggest

checking the archives though. I am sure I have seen many posts on this

product and various experiences. www.onibasu.com

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> >

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> > >>>>How did you know PCA pulled out mercury the first time you

used it?

> >

> > PCA also pulled out mercury the first time I used it

> > and DMSA never did the 6 months (on/off with MD supervision) he

was on

> > it...I think it was too busy pulling out his calcium.

> >

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