Re: BRAIN MRI and chelation/why an MRI?

[Guest guest]

Are they still routinely doing MRIs on kids as part of the

diagnostic process? We never did get one; nor was an MRI ever

recommended for my now 4.5 year old. He was diagnosed in 7/2004,

but was under evaluation since 11/2002 (took 20 months to get the

ASD diagnosis). This was at a large Children's Hospital where the

doc told me he saw no need for an MRI.

My impression is that the MRIs for ASD kids are vastly normal.

Pam

>

> I recently did a brain MRI on my daughter, but we are not

chelating. It is doubtful that chelates would cause that kind of

problem, although it could interfere with the testing I suppose. I

also have serious doubts that it would make the removal more

difficult, but then again there is no science that I know of that

could address such a question. While this is a very good question,

If it were me I would always err on the side of caution. Unless you

have an emergency, I would wait until I felt comfortable with the

condition of the child. I write prescriptions for MRI's regularly

and would not have a problem with a chelated child being tested, but

ultimately it is the parents' decision.

>

> Jeff Cunningham, DC

> [ ] BRAIN MRI and chelation

>

>

> Is it safe for a chelating individual with metallic mercury

poisoning

> in addition to the usual methylmercury to have a brain MRI?

Should one

> wait a while after dmsa chelation to have the mri? Will the

magnet move

> the mercury around in the brain and make it harder to remove

later?

>

> Thanks,

> Whit

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

The answer is that mainstream medicine does run MRI as a part of the diagnosis

process. They wanted one and I ran it under my license. I sat there with my

daughter and helped her through it. I would not do it again, quite frankly.

And yes, it was normal.

Jeff Cunningham, DC

[ ] BRAIN MRI and chelation

>

>

> Is it safe for a chelating individual with metallic mercury

poisoning

> in addition to the usual methylmercury to have a brain MRI?

Should one

> wait a while after dmsa chelation to have the mri? Will the

magnet move

> the mercury around in the brain and make it harder to remove

later?

>

> Thanks,

> Whit

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but while an MRI would be normal, I'm

figuring a SPECT or and fMRI or a PET scan would NOT be normal. I've

seen Aspie SPECT imaging, and their brains are lit up like a

Christmas tree! Loads going on there, my guess would be specifically

in the parietal lobe where sensory input lands (with the exception of

smell). So where an MRI would show that you have a brain, and what

physical shape it is in (ie if a portion of it is missing or if a

tumor is present), one of these others would show how it functions.

It would be to the brain what an echocardiogram is to the heart. Why

is it then, that those are not the preferred method for dx?

Sara

> >

> > I recently did a brain MRI on my daughter, but we are not

> chelating. It is doubtful that chelates would cause that kind of

> problem, although it could interfere with the testing I suppose.

I

> also have serious doubts that it would make the removal more

> difficult, but then again there is no science that I know of that

> could address such a question. While this is a very good

question,

> If it were me I would always err on the side of caution. Unless

you

> have an emergency, I would wait until I felt comfortable with the

> condition of the child. I write prescriptions for MRI's

regularly

> and would not have a problem with a chelated child being tested,

but

> ultimately it is the parents' decision.

> >

> > Jeff Cunningham, DC

> > [ ] BRAIN MRI and chelation

> >

> >

> > Is it safe for a chelating individual with metallic mercury

> poisoning

> > in addition to the usual methylmercury to have a brain MRI?

> Should one

> > wait a while after dmsa chelation to have the mri? Will the

> magnet move

> > the mercury around in the brain and make it harder to remove

> later?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Whit

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

What would a SPECT or PET scan tell us? Were MRIs originally used

because they were looking (or assuming) for brain damage or

structural changes in the Autistic brain?

I guess my bigger question would be, what could I do with the SPECT

or PET images to help my son?

I'm so curious about what is going on up in my son's adorable noggin.

Pam

> > >

> > > I recently did a brain MRI on my daughter, but we are not

> > chelating. It is doubtful that chelates would cause that kind

of

> > problem, although it could interfere with the testing I

suppose.

> I

> > also have serious doubts that it would make the removal more

> > difficult, but then again there is no science that I know of

that

> > could address such a question. While this is a very good

> question,

> > If it were me I would always err on the side of caution.

Unless

> you

> > have an emergency, I would wait until I felt comfortable with

the

> > condition of the child. I write prescriptions for MRI's

> regularly

> > and would not have a problem with a chelated child being

tested,

> but

> > ultimately it is the parents' decision.

> > >

> > > Jeff Cunningham, DC

> > > [ ] BRAIN MRI and chelation

> > >

> > >

> > > Is it safe for a chelating individual with metallic

mercury

> > poisoning

> > > in addition to the usual methylmercury to have a brain

MRI?

> > Should one

> > > wait a while after dmsa chelation to have the mri? Will

the

> > magnet move

> > > the mercury around in the brain and make it harder to

remove

> > later?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Whit

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > =======================================================

> > >

[Guest guest]

The MRI is a baseline scan to rule out structural damage. If there is some

indication for further testing, I suppose you could use a PET or SPECT, but I am

not going to put my daughter through something like that when all it does is

give us pretty colors that tell us what is already known, for the most part.

There is no indication for such a test in our case.

Jeff Cunningham, DC

[ ] BRAIN MRI and chelation

> > >

> > >

> > > Is it safe for a chelating individual with metallic

mercury

> > poisoning

> > > in addition to the usual methylmercury to have a brain

MRI?

> > Should one

> > > wait a while after dmsa chelation to have the mri? Will

the

> > magnet move

> > > the mercury around in the brain and make it harder to

remove

> > later?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Whit

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > =======================================================

> > >

[Guest guest]

As far as I know, it shows blood flow or lack of to areas of the

brain, guess just a thing to tell you where there is an issue,

enhanced flow or decreased flow to a particular area. No other value

can I see from it.

> > > >

> > > > I recently did a brain MRI on my daughter, but we are not

> > > chelating. It is doubtful that chelates would cause that

kind

> of

> > > problem, although it could interfere with the testing I

> suppose.

> > I

> > > also have serious doubts that it would make the removal more

> > > difficult, but then again there is no science that I know of

> that

> > > could address such a question. While this is a very good

> > question,

> > > If it were me I would always err on the side of caution.

> Unless

> > you

> > > have an emergency, I would wait until I felt comfortable with

> the

> > > condition of the child. I write prescriptions for MRI's

> > regularly

> > > and would not have a problem with a chelated child being

> tested,

> > but

> > > ultimately it is the parents' decision.

> > > >

> > > > Jeff Cunningham, DC

> > > > [ ] BRAIN MRI and chelation

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Is it safe for a chelating individual with metallic

> mercury

> > > poisoning

> > > > in addition to the usual methylmercury to have a brain

> MRI?

> > > Should one

> > > > wait a while after dmsa chelation to have the mri? Will

> the

> > > magnet move

> > > > the mercury around in the brain and make it harder to

> remove

> > > later?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Whit

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > =======================================================

> > > >

[Guest guest]

The Best Practice Guidelines for Autism Screening, Diagnosis and

Assessment published by the California Department of Developmental

Services recommends MRI or CT in the presence of clinical neurological

abnormalities such as microcephaly, neurologic asymmetries or rapidly

increasing head circumference. Nonprogressive macrocephaly is not

viewed as an indication for head imaging, and routine imaging is not

recommended. MOre information is available at their website

www.ddhealthinfo.org

Jim

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Subject: [ ] Re: BRAIN MRI and chelation/why an MRI?

Are they still routinely doing MRIs on kids as part of the

diagnostic process? We never did get one; nor was an MRI ever

recommended for my now 4.5 year old. He was diagnosed in 7/2004,

but was under evaluation since 11/2002 (took 20 months to get the

ASD diagnosis). This was at a large Children's Hospital where the

doc told me he saw no need for an MRI.

My impression is that the MRIs for ASD kids are vastly normal.

Pam

>

> I recently did a brain MRI on my daughter, but we are not

chelating. It is doubtful that chelates would cause that kind of

problem, although it could interfere with the testing I suppose. I

also have serious doubts that it would make the removal more

difficult, but then again there is no science that I know of that

could address such a question. While this is a very good question,

If it were me I would always err on the side of caution. Unless you

have an emergency, I would wait until I felt comfortable with the

condition of the child. I write prescriptions for MRI's regularly

and would not have a problem with a chelated child being tested, but

ultimately it is the parents' decision.

>

> Jeff Cunningham, DC

> [ ] BRAIN MRI and chelation

>

>

> Is it safe for a chelating individual with metallic mercury

poisoning

> in addition to the usual methylmercury to have a brain MRI?

Should one

> wait a while after dmsa chelation to have the mri? Will the

magnet move

> the mercury around in the brain and make it harder to remove

later?

>

> Thanks,

> Whit

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

I would recommend an MRI. I had one one my son and a malformation showed up

unrelated to the autism. I know of other people that have done them. Some

normal and some not so normal. One woman just could not figure out where

all the behaviors were coming from and her frustrations finally led to an

MRI and a lot showed up. What I would call blank spots. My son's area of

concern with the malformation was in attention and planning and medicating

for attention will not help a malformation. To me, that was valuable

information. I think most of us don't like to medicate unless it's

absolutely necessary and the neurologist told me that medication would not

help his malformation. Teaching other areas of the brain to take over those

functions would be what we should aim for. Time will tell on that issue.

Why not rule out a problem, tumor, malformation, etc. before seeking other

treatments? Just my thoughts.

Carla

[ ] BRAIN MRI and chelation

> >

> >

> > Is it safe for a chelating individual with metallic mercury

> poisoning

> > in addition to the usual methylmercury to have a brain MRI?

> Should one

> > wait a while after dmsa chelation to have the mri? Will the

> magnet move

> > the mercury around in the brain and make it harder to remove

> later?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Whit

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

Perhaps I will revisit the MRI issue if chelation doesn't do what I

expect it to do.

Thanks,

Pam

> > >

> > > I recently did a brain MRI on my daughter, but we are not

> > chelating. It is doubtful that chelates would cause that kind

of

> > problem, although it could interfere with the testing I

suppose. I

> > also have serious doubts that it would make the removal more

> > difficult, but then again there is no science that I know of

that

> > could address such a question. While this is a very good

question,

> > If it were me I would always err on the side of caution.

Unless you

> > have an emergency, I would wait until I felt comfortable with

the

> > condition of the child. I write prescriptions for MRI's

regularly

> > and would not have a problem with a chelated child being

tested, but

> > ultimately it is the parents' decision.

> > >

> > > Jeff Cunningham, DC

> > > [ ] BRAIN MRI and chelation

> > >

> > >

> > > Is it safe for a chelating individual with metallic mercury

> > poisoning

> > > in addition to the usual methylmercury to have a brain MRI?

> > Should one

> > > wait a while after dmsa chelation to have the mri? Will the

> > magnet move

> > > the mercury around in the brain and make it harder to

remove

> > later?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Whit

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > =======================================================

> > >