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> Are FIR saunas ok to use on mercury toxic people?

> There are portable ones available. Thanks, Juli

>

Hi Juli,

We have been doing sauna (combination of dry heat and FIR) for my 8

year old son with autism for a year and a half with excellent results.

(He developed autism as a result of mercury in vaccinations). He has

gotten healthier and more robust physically. He's less allergic, he

stims less, he has much better cognitive function, and he has better

problem-solving skills. Also, GI function and stomachaches have

improved as his load of stored toxins has gone down. We've seen other

improvements too. .

We see Rea, M.D. at the Environmental Health Center-Dallas.

He's now treated more than 30,000 patients with sauna (he uses a mix

of dry heat and FIR) since the 1970s and is widely regarded as THE

sauna guru. He says that sauna, including FIR, is safe for most people

, including people with mercury toxicity given (1) the right sauna, (2

) the right sauna protocol, and (3) appropriate monitoring by a doctor

who is knowledgeable about sauna detox and has experience with it.

I'll explain more: (1) All saunas are not the same. Some are made with

the most toxic materials you can imagine (for example vinyl and other

plastics) or slightly less toxic materials like pine or cedar. Some

are made with mostly safe materials (such as poplar and glass) but

have toxins anyway due to the (sometimes hidden) use of glues,

varnishes, plastic windows, plywood, etc. One of the cornerstones of

ensuring sauna safety is to use a sauna that has the most minimal

amount of toxins possible. The reason this is important is because

toxins stored in things like wood, plastic, varnish, etc. are

continuously outgassing. When you heat them up, they outgas even more.

Considering that heating is what a sauna does, having a sauna made

with materials that are anything less than the most toxin-free

possible is a bad mix. You'll be breathing in toxins that are in the

air as you sauna and try to dump toxins you already have.

Dr. Rea says there are two good options for 'clean' saunas. First, you

can build your own of tile with toxin-free adhesive and grout (no

silicone, latex, etc.) and you will need to get toxin-free heating

units. The other option is Heavenly Heat's portable units. Their

saunas are made from untreated SOLID poplar wood (widely accepted as

the least toxic wood you can use) and glass. They don't use any glues,

varnish, plywood, or other materials that introduce obvious or hidden

toxins. (As non-reactive as it is, a few people do have trouble with

poplar. Heavenly Heat offers different options that have more glass

and less wood for anyone concerned about that. Dr. Rea typically

recommends getting more glass and less wood to lessn the chance of any

reaction.)

There are other saunas on the market made from poplar wood but do your

research carefully. Before we purchased our sauna, we talked

extensively with Dr. Rea. He told us that in his clinical experience,

Heavenly Heat ones are the only portable saunas that are safe enough

for someone with a damaged immune system. In his experience, other

brands, even ones made of poplar, put out too many toxins when heated

and make people sicker, or they just don't improve.

Andy talks about people getting sick from sauna and this is absolutely

true. I've talked to plenty of patients at Dr. Rea's clinic who got

sicker, sometimes way sicker, from sauna they did before coming to Dr.

Rea (both dry heat and FIR). BUT, what they eventually found after

trying the 'clean' saunas at Dr. Rea's was this: it was not sauna that

made them sick; they got sicker because the brand of sauna they were

using before they went to Dr. Rea had toxins. These toxins outgassed

big time every time they used the unit. I heard so many stories about

these saunas now sitting in the garage or shed being unused, or they

were being used as an expensive storage closet. I hate to trash a

company I don't have personal experience with, but the most common

brand I heard complaints about, in fact the only brand I heard

complaints about was High Tech Health (HTH). Complaints of

formaldehyde and high electromagnetic radiation and getting seriously

sicker were common, also complaints about HTH refusing to take the

unit back or charging an exhorbitant fee to do so. Personally, I don't

think its worth the chance when there is a safe alternative readily

available (Heavenly Heat).

A sauna is a big purchase and it would be tragic for a family already

overloaded with expenses to treat autism to end up with a sauna that

didn't help their child due to putting toxins when heated, or even

worse, made them sicker. So if you are uncertain, do careful research.

Ask the manufacturer tough questions. Is the wood solid? Is ALL the

wood solid? Is any laminated or layered? (This will mean glue is

present). How is the wood processed? Is the wood treated, stained,

varnished? How is the unit held together? Screws? Glue? Is there any

plastic? Plywood? Is there any formaldehyde used to manufacture any of

the materials in this unit? How much electromagnetic radiation (EMF)

does each heater emit? This is especially important for the FIR units

since you sit with your back right next to them! (You can test this

yourself with a gaussmeter--look for 5-7 as ideal and definitely under

10). Where is the unit made? Units made offshore may or may not have

as stringent quality control so this might give you some clues as to

the potential presence of toxins. And so on. Knowing what I do now,

I would ask for test results~from an independent test lab~on air

quality inside the unit when the unit is on. It would be so easy for a

salesman to say it's clean when really it's not and that's not a

chance I would want to take with my son's health.

(2) As far as a sauna protocol, there are lots of them floating around

out there on the internet and even from sauna companies. These are

might be a good starting point for some, but not for others. It's

probably safer and more ideal to have one that's specific for your

child (or you). Everyone is different and needs to move at their own

pace. Some of Dr. Rea's patients can tolerate dry heat + FIR sauna 6

days a week at very high temperatures for 30 minutes. At the other end

of the spectrum, I met a woman who can only tolerate 5 minutes of

sauna, at a low temperature, once a month without getting sicker. The

sauna is helping her, but she has to go oh so slow. Were she to use

one of the general protocols out there, she'd get seriously sicker and

probably conclude that sauna was harmful for her. At that level, it

would be. Also, different people may need differing amounts of

mineral replacement supplements and other nutritional support as part

of their protocol, depending on their personal situation and how much

mercury (and other toxins) they have. Certainly, you CAN do sauna

without having a customized protocol, but it's safer and more optimal

(that is: it works faster/better) to have a protocol based on your own

situation.

In addition, when I was first investigating sauna for my son, I didn't

plan to use dry heat for my son at all, just FIR. (This is because I

had read Sherry 's books and she recommends only FIR). Dr. Rea

said that in his clinical experience with sauna, which is now at

about 30 years, that some people have better detox and fewer problems

with dry heat, some with FIR, and some with a combination of both. I

don't know that this is well recognized in autism circles, yet. Dr.

Rea also said that at different points in your healing path, as you

are getting rid of different toxins, dry heat might be better than

FIR, or vice versa. When I asked Dr. Rea about Dr. 's

recommendation for only FIR, I found out that she is one of his

patients, and she doesn't use sauna in her practice so I really trust

his opinion since it's based on actual experience. If you get a unit

iwth both dry heat and FIR, it gives you more flexibility for

different family members and different points in your healing path.

For Heavenly Heat, the ones with both dry and FIR heat are called A+,

I think.

(3) Dr. Rea does blood work to monitor liver and kidney function and

mineral levels, among other things and he does it often, especially at

the beginning. He feels this is necessary to make sure you are moving

at the optimum rate and not getting depleted or developing other

problems. Checking liver and kidney function is important because when

you sauna, more toxins are released from their storage sites than get

sweated out. Some get into the blood stream and have to be processed

and excreted by normal means, urine and bowel. You don't want to

overtax those organs involved, which may already have a full load of

work to do, by going to fast or not taking the correct supplements.

These are simple tests that any doctor can order.

Sauna DOES work for getting rid of mercury and is very effective for

doing so. However, like most things, it may or may not be the

best/most effective/safest route for a specific person.

Sorry this is so long, but thought you and perhaps others might find

the info useful.

Mom of C and D

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>Some are made with

> the most toxic materials you can imagine (for example vinyl and other

> plastics)

My ultra-low-tech way to sweat out toxins is to stop using AC in the

summer. It's quite amazing how acclimated you can get to hot weather

when you're not in AC all the time, and how sweating stops being

uncomfortable. Also I found sauna impossible because of adrenal

problems (and probably outgassing too, I was using a health club

sauna) but sweating in the summer actually felt good.

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> My ultra-low-tech way to sweat out toxins is to stop using AC in the

> summer.

Dr. Rea in Dallas decided to institute sauna therapy after realizing

that his chemically and heavy metal-injured patients improved in the

hot summers in Texas.

Bob

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> My ultra-low-tech way to sweat out toxins is to stop using AC in the

> summer. > Nell

>

....And is probably one of the few therapies that will actually SAVE

you money!

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The enormous detoxification value of saunas is discussed in the

cover story of the new (April) issue of " The Townsend Letter. "

The article evaluates responses in saunas of 9/11 rescue workers.

These authors will be releasing studies soon on body-reductions of

specific toxic substances including heavy metals.

For those interested, I imagine that it can be ordered via their web

site: www.townsendletter.com

Bob.

momofc_and_d@.wrote:

> We have been doing sauna (combination of dry heat and FIR) for my 8

> year old son with autism for a year and a half with excellent

results.

> (He developed autism as a result of mercury in vaccinations). He

has

> gotten healthier and more robust physically. He's less allergic, he

> stims less, he has much better cognitive function, and he has

better

> problem-solving skills. Also, GI function and stomachaches have

> improved as his load of stored toxins has gone down. We've seen

other

> improvements too. .

>

> We see Rea, M.D. at the Environmental Health Center-Dallas.

> He's now treated more than 30,000 patients with sauna (he uses a

mix

> of dry heat and FIR) since the 1970s and is widely regarded as THE

> sauna guru. He says that sauna, including FIR, is safe for most

people

> , including people with mercury toxicity given (1) the right

sauna, (2

> ) the right sauna protocol, and (3) appropriate monitoring by a

doctor

> who is knowledgeable about sauna detox and has experience with it.

>

> I'll explain more: (1) All saunas are not the same. Some are made

with

> the most toxic materials you can imagine (for example vinyl and

other

> plastics) or slightly less toxic materials like pine or cedar. Some

> are made with mostly safe materials (such as poplar and glass) but

> have toxins anyway due to the (sometimes hidden) use of glues,

> varnishes, plastic windows, plywood, etc. One of the cornerstones

of

> ensuring sauna safety is to use a sauna that has the most minimal

> amount of toxins possible. The reason this is important is because

> toxins stored in things like wood, plastic, varnish, etc. are

> continuously outgassing. When you heat them up, they outgas even

more.

> Considering that heating is what a sauna does, having a sauna made

> with materials that are anything less than the most toxin-free

> possible is a bad mix. You'll be breathing in toxins that are in

the

> air as you sauna and try to dump toxins you already have.

>

> Dr. Rea says there are two good options for 'clean' saunas. First,

you

> can build your own of tile with toxin-free adhesive and grout (no

> silicone, latex, etc.) and you will need to get toxin-free heating

> units. The other option is Heavenly Heat's portable units. Their

> saunas are made from untreated SOLID poplar wood (widely accepted

as

> the least toxic wood you can use) and glass. They don't use any

glues,

> varnish, plywood, or other materials that introduce obvious or

hidden

> toxins. (As non-reactive as it is, a few people do have trouble

with

> poplar. Heavenly Heat offers different options that have more glass

> and less wood for anyone concerned about that. Dr. Rea typically

> recommends getting more glass and less wood to lessn the chance of

any

> reaction.)

>

> There are other saunas on the market made from poplar wood but do

your

> research carefully. Before we purchased our sauna, we talked

> extensively with Dr. Rea. He told us that in his clinical

experience,

> Heavenly Heat ones are the only portable saunas that are safe

enough

> for someone with a damaged immune system. In his experience, other

> brands, even ones made of poplar, put out too many toxins when

heated

> and make people sicker, or they just don't improve.

>

> Andy talks about people getting sick from sauna and this is

absolutely

> true. I've talked to plenty of patients at Dr. Rea's clinic who got

> sicker, sometimes way sicker, from sauna they did before coming to

Dr.

> Rea (both dry heat and FIR). BUT, what they eventually found after

> trying the 'clean' saunas at Dr. Rea's was this: it was not sauna

that

> made them sick; they got sicker because the brand of sauna they

were

> using before they went to Dr. Rea had toxins. These toxins

outgassed

> big time every time they used the unit. I heard so many stories

about

> these saunas now sitting in the garage or shed being unused, or

they

> were being used as an expensive storage closet. I hate to trash a

> company I don't have personal experience with, but the most common

> brand I heard complaints about, in fact the only brand I heard

> complaints about was High Tech Health (HTH). Complaints of

> formaldehyde and high electromagnetic radiation and getting

seriously

> sicker were common, also complaints about HTH refusing to take the

> unit back or charging an exhorbitant fee to do so. Personally, I

don't

> think its worth the chance when there is a safe alternative readily

> available (Heavenly Heat).

>

> A sauna is a big purchase and it would be tragic for a family

already

> overloaded with expenses to treat autism to end up with a sauna

that

> didn't help their child due to putting toxins when heated, or even

> worse, made them sicker. So if you are uncertain, do careful

research.

> Ask the manufacturer tough questions. Is the wood solid? Is ALL

the

> wood solid? Is any laminated or layered? (This will mean glue is

> present). How is the wood processed? Is the wood treated, stained,

> varnished? How is the unit held together? Screws? Glue? Is there

any

> plastic? Plywood? Is there any formaldehyde used to manufacture

any of

> the materials in this unit? How much electromagnetic radiation

(EMF)

> does each heater emit? This is especially important for the FIR

units

> since you sit with your back right next to them! (You can test this

> yourself with a gaussmeter--look for 5-7 as ideal and definitely

under

> 10). Where is the unit made? Units made offshore may or may not

have

> as stringent quality control so this might give you some clues as

to

> the potential presence of toxins. And so on. Knowing what I do

now,

> I would ask for test results~from an independent test lab~on air

> quality inside the unit when the unit is on. It would be so easy

for a

> salesman to say it's clean when really it's not and that's not a

> chance I would want to take with my son's health.

>

> (2) As far as a sauna protocol, there are lots of them floating

around

> out there on the internet and even from sauna companies. These are

> might be a good starting point for some, but not for others. It's

> probably safer and more ideal to have one that's specific for your

> child (or you). Everyone is different and needs to move at their

own

> pace. Some of Dr. Rea's patients can tolerate dry heat + FIR sauna

6

> days a week at very high temperatures for 30 minutes. At the other

end

> of the spectrum, I met a woman who can only tolerate 5 minutes of

> sauna, at a low temperature, once a month without getting sicker.

The

> sauna is helping her, but she has to go oh so slow. Were she to use

> one of the general protocols out there, she'd get seriously sicker

and

> probably conclude that sauna was harmful for her. At that level, it

> would be. Also, different people may need differing amounts of

> mineral replacement supplements and other nutritional support as

part

> of their protocol, depending on their personal situation and how

much

> mercury (and other toxins) they have. Certainly, you CAN do sauna

> without having a customized protocol, but it's safer and more

optimal

> (that is: it works faster/better) to have a protocol based on your

own

> situation.

>

> In addition, when I was first investigating sauna for my son, I

didn't

> plan to use dry heat for my son at all, just FIR. (This is because

I

> had read Sherry 's books and she recommends only FIR). Dr. Rea

> said that in his clinical experience with sauna, which is now at

> about 30 years, that some people have better detox and fewer

problems

> with dry heat, some with FIR, and some with a combination of both.

I

> don't know that this is well recognized in autism circles, yet. Dr.

> Rea also said that at different points in your healing path, as you

> are getting rid of different toxins, dry heat might be better than

> FIR, or vice versa. When I asked Dr. Rea about Dr. 's

> recommendation for only FIR, I found out that she is one of his

> patients, and she doesn't use sauna in her practice so I really

trust

> his opinion since it's based on actual experience. If you get a

unit

> iwth both dry heat and FIR, it gives you more flexibility for

> different family members and different points in your healing path.

> For Heavenly Heat, the ones with both dry and FIR heat are called

A+,

> I think.

>

> (3) Dr. Rea does blood work to monitor liver and kidney function

and

> mineral levels, among other things and he does it often,

especially at

> the beginning. He feels this is necessary to make sure you are

moving

> at the optimum rate and not getting depleted or developing other

> problems. Checking liver and kidney function is important because

when

> you sauna, more toxins are released from their storage sites than

get

> sweated out. Some get into the blood stream and have to be

processed

> and excreted by normal means, urine and bowel. You don't want to

> overtax those organs involved, which may already have a full load

of

> work to do, by going to fast or not taking the correct supplements.

> These are simple tests that any doctor can order.

>

> Sauna DOES work for getting rid of mercury and is very effective

for

> doing so. However, like most things, it may or may not be the

> best/most effective/safest route for a specific person.

>

> Sorry this is so long, but thought you and perhaps others might

find

> the info useful.

>

> Mom of C and D

>

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[ ] Re: Sauna question

> The enormous detoxification value of saunas is discussed in the

> cover story of the new (April) issue of " The Townsend Letter. "

>

> The article evaluates responses in saunas of 9/11 rescue workers.

>

> These authors will be releasing studies soon on body-reductions of

> specific toxic substances including heavy metals.

>

> For those interested, I imagine that it can be ordered via their web

> site: www.townsendletter.com

>

> Bob.

>

>

> momofc_and_d@.wrote:

>

>> We have been doing sauna (combination of dry heat and FIR) for my 8

>> year old son with autism for a year and a half with excellent

> results.

>> (He developed autism as a result of mercury in vaccinations). He

> has

>> gotten healthier and more robust physically. He's less allergic, he

>> stims less, he has much better cognitive function, and he has

> better

>> problem-solving skills. Also, GI function and stomachaches have

>> improved as his load of stored toxins has gone down. We've seen

> other

>> improvements too. .

>>

>> We see Rea, M.D. at the Environmental Health Center-Dallas.

>> He's now treated more than 30,000 patients with sauna (he uses a

> mix

>> of dry heat and FIR) since the 1970s and is widely regarded as THE

>> sauna guru. He says that sauna, including FIR, is safe for most

> people

>> , including people with mercury toxicity given (1) the right

> sauna, (2

>> ) the right sauna protocol, and (3) appropriate monitoring by a

> doctor

>> who is knowledgeable about sauna detox and has experience with it.

>>

>> I'll explain more: (1) All saunas are not the same. Some are made

> with

>> the most toxic materials you can imagine (for example vinyl and

> other

>> plastics) or slightly less toxic materials like pine or cedar. Some

>> are made with mostly safe materials (such as poplar and glass) but

>> have toxins anyway due to the (sometimes hidden) use of glues,

>> varnishes, plastic windows, plywood, etc. One of the cornerstones

> of

>> ensuring sauna safety is to use a sauna that has the most minimal

>> amount of toxins possible. The reason this is important is because

>> toxins stored in things like wood, plastic, varnish, etc. are

>> continuously outgassing. When you heat them up, they outgas even

> more.

>> Considering that heating is what a sauna does, having a sauna made

>> with materials that are anything less than the most toxin-free

>> possible is a bad mix. You'll be breathing in toxins that are in

> the

>> air as you sauna and try to dump toxins you already have.

>>

>> Dr. Rea says there are two good options for 'clean' saunas. First,

> you

>> can build your own of tile with toxin-free adhesive and grout (no

>> silicone, latex, etc.) and you will need to get toxin-free heating

>> units. The other option is Heavenly Heat's portable units. Their

>> saunas are made from untreated SOLID poplar wood (widely accepted

> as

>> the least toxic wood you can use) and glass. They don't use any

> glues,

>> varnish, plywood, or other materials that introduce obvious or

> hidden

>> toxins. (As non-reactive as it is, a few people do have trouble

> with

>> poplar. Heavenly Heat offers different options that have more glass

>> and less wood for anyone concerned about that. Dr. Rea typically

>> recommends getting more glass and less wood to lessn the chance of

> any

>> reaction.)

>>

>> There are other saunas on the market made from poplar wood but do

> your

>> research carefully. Before we purchased our sauna, we talked

>> extensively with Dr. Rea. He told us that in his clinical

> experience,

>> Heavenly Heat ones are the only portable saunas that are safe

> enough

>> for someone with a damaged immune system. In his experience, other

>> brands, even ones made of poplar, put out too many toxins when

> heated

>> and make people sicker, or they just don't improve.

>>

>> Andy talks about people getting sick from sauna and this is

> absolutely

>> true. I've talked to plenty of patients at Dr. Rea's clinic who got

>> sicker, sometimes way sicker, from sauna they did before coming to

> Dr.

>> Rea (both dry heat and FIR). BUT, what they eventually found after

>> trying the 'clean' saunas at Dr. Rea's was this: it was not sauna

> that

>> made them sick; they got sicker because the brand of sauna they

> were

>> using before they went to Dr. Rea had toxins. These toxins

> outgassed

>> big time every time they used the unit. I heard so many stories

> about

>> these saunas now sitting in the garage or shed being unused, or

> they

>> were being used as an expensive storage closet. I hate to trash a

>> company I don't have personal experience with, but the most common

>> brand I heard complaints about, in fact the only brand I heard

>> complaints about was High Tech Health (HTH). Complaints of

>> formaldehyde and high electromagnetic radiation and getting

> seriously

>> sicker were common, also complaints about HTH refusing to take the

>> unit back or charging an exhorbitant fee to do so. Personally, I

> don't

>> think its worth the chance when there is a safe alternative readily

>> available (Heavenly Heat).

>>

>> A sauna is a big purchase and it would be tragic for a family

> already

>> overloaded with expenses to treat autism to end up with a sauna

> that

>> didn't help their child due to putting toxins when heated, or even

>> worse, made them sicker. So if you are uncertain, do careful

> research.

>> Ask the manufacturer tough questions. Is the wood solid? Is ALL

> the

>> wood solid? Is any laminated or layered? (This will mean glue is

>> present). How is the wood processed? Is the wood treated, stained,

>> varnished? How is the unit held together? Screws? Glue? Is there

> any

>> plastic? Plywood? Is there any formaldehyde used to manufacture

> any of

>> the materials in this unit? How much electromagnetic radiation

> (EMF)

>> does each heater emit? This is especially important for the FIR

> units

>> since you sit with your back right next to them! (You can test this

>> yourself with a gaussmeter--look for 5-7 as ideal and definitely

> under

>> 10). Where is the unit made? Units made offshore may or may not

> have

>> as stringent quality control so this might give you some clues as

> to

>> the potential presence of toxins. And so on. Knowing what I do

> now,

>> I would ask for test results~from an independent test lab~on air

>> quality inside the unit when the unit is on. It would be so easy

> for a

>> salesman to say it's clean when really it's not and that's not a

>> chance I would want to take with my son's health.

>>

>> (2) As far as a sauna protocol, there are lots of them floating

> around

>> out there on the internet and even from sauna companies. These are

>> might be a good starting point for some, but not for others. It's

>> probably safer and more ideal to have one that's specific for your

>> child (or you). Everyone is different and needs to move at their

> own

>> pace. Some of Dr. Rea's patients can tolerate dry heat + FIR sauna

> 6

>> days a week at very high temperatures for 30 minutes. At the other

> end

>> of the spectrum, I met a woman who can only tolerate 5 minutes of

>> sauna, at a low temperature, once a month without getting sicker.

> The

>> sauna is helping her, but she has to go oh so slow. Were she to use

>> one of the general protocols out there, she'd get seriously sicker

> and

>> probably conclude that sauna was harmful for her. At that level, it

>> would be. Also, different people may need differing amounts of

>> mineral replacement supplements and other nutritional support as

> part

>> of their protocol, depending on their personal situation and how

> much

>> mercury (and other toxins) they have. Certainly, you CAN do sauna

>> without having a customized protocol, but it's safer and more

> optimal

>> (that is: it works faster/better) to have a protocol based on your

> own

>> situation.

>>

>> In addition, when I was first investigating sauna for my son, I

> didn't

>> plan to use dry heat for my son at all, just FIR. (This is because

> I

>> had read Sherry 's books and she recommends only FIR). Dr. Rea

>> said that in his clinical experience with sauna, which is now at

>> about 30 years, that some people have better detox and fewer

> problems

>> with dry heat, some with FIR, and some with a combination of both.

> I

>> don't know that this is well recognized in autism circles, yet. Dr.

>> Rea also said that at different points in your healing path, as you

>> are getting rid of different toxins, dry heat might be better than

>> FIR, or vice versa. When I asked Dr. Rea about Dr. 's

>> recommendation for only FIR, I found out that she is one of his

>> patients, and she doesn't use sauna in her practice so I really

> trust

>> his opinion since it's based on actual experience. If you get a

> unit

>> iwth both dry heat and FIR, it gives you more flexibility for

>> different family members and different points in your healing path.

>> For Heavenly Heat, the ones with both dry and FIR heat are called

> A+,

>> I think.

>>

>> (3) Dr. Rea does blood work to monitor liver and kidney function

> and

>> mineral levels, among other things and he does it often,

> especially at

>> the beginning. He feels this is necessary to make sure you are

> moving

>> at the optimum rate and not getting depleted or developing other

>> problems. Checking liver and kidney function is important because

> when

>> you sauna, more toxins are released from their storage sites than

> get

>> sweated out. Some get into the blood stream and have to be

> processed

>> and excreted by normal means, urine and bowel. You don't want to

>> overtax those organs involved, which may already have a full load

> of

>> work to do, by going to fast or not taking the correct supplements.

>> These are simple tests that any doctor can order.

>>

>> Sauna DOES work for getting rid of mercury and is very effective

> for

>> doing so. However, like most things, it may or may not be the

>> best/most effective/safest route for a specific person.

>>

>> Sorry this is so long, but thought you and perhaps others might

> find

>> the info useful.

>>

>> Mom of C and D

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

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We had wonderful success with a heavenly heat sauna. We still use

it now 2 times per week. We used to use it 4x daily with exercise,

showers, massage, etc., much like the 9/11 protocol. It worked

wonders for my son (and for me!)

Debbie

>

> Can you post this to the list?

>

> Barb

> [ ] Re: Sauna question

>

>

> > The enormous detoxification value of saunas is discussed in the

> > cover story of the new (April) issue of " The Townsend Letter. "

> >

> > The article evaluates responses in saunas of 9/11 rescue

workers.

> >

> > These authors will be releasing studies soon on body-reductions

of

> > specific toxic substances including heavy metals.

> >

> > For those interested, I imagine that it can be ordered via their

web

> > site: www.townsendletter.com

> >

> > Bob.

> >

> >

> > momofc_and_d@...:

> >

> >> We have been doing sauna (combination of dry heat and FIR) for

my 8

> >> year old son with autism for a year and a half with excellent

> > results.

> >> (He developed autism as a result of mercury in vaccinations).

He

> > has

> >> gotten healthier and more robust physically. He's less

allergic, he

> >> stims less, he has much better cognitive function, and he has

> > better

> >> problem-solving skills. Also, GI function and stomachaches have

> >> improved as his load of stored toxins has gone down. We've seen

> > other

> >> improvements too. .

> >>

> >> We see Rea, M.D. at the Environmental Health Center-

Dallas.

> >> He's now treated more than 30,000 patients with sauna (he uses

a

> > mix

> >> of dry heat and FIR) since the 1970s and is widely regarded as

THE

> >> sauna guru. He says that sauna, including FIR, is safe for most

> > people

> >> , including people with mercury toxicity given (1) the right

> > sauna, (2

> >> ) the right sauna protocol, and (3) appropriate monitoring by a

> > doctor

> >> who is knowledgeable about sauna detox and has experience with

it.

> >>

> >> I'll explain more: (1) All saunas are not the same. Some are

made

> > with

> >> the most toxic materials you can imagine (for example vinyl and

> > other

> >> plastics) or slightly less toxic materials like pine or cedar.

Some

> >> are made with mostly safe materials (such as poplar and glass)

but

> >> have toxins anyway due to the (sometimes hidden) use of glues,

> >> varnishes, plastic windows, plywood, etc. One of the

cornerstones

> > of

> >> ensuring sauna safety is to use a sauna that has the most

minimal

> >> amount of toxins possible. The reason this is important is

because

> >> toxins stored in things like wood, plastic, varnish, etc. are

> >> continuously outgassing. When you heat them up, they outgas

even

> > more.

> >> Considering that heating is what a sauna does, having a sauna

made

> >> with materials that are anything less than the most toxin-free

> >> possible is a bad mix. You'll be breathing in toxins that are

in

> > the

> >> air as you sauna and try to dump toxins you already have.

> >>

> >> Dr. Rea says there are two good options for 'clean' saunas.

First,

> > you

> >> can build your own of tile with toxin-free adhesive and grout

(no

> >> silicone, latex, etc.) and you will need to get toxin-free

heating

> >> units. The other option is Heavenly Heat's portable units. Their

> >> saunas are made from untreated SOLID poplar wood (widely

accepted

> > as

> >> the least toxic wood you can use) and glass. They don't use any

> > glues,

> >> varnish, plywood, or other materials that introduce obvious or

> > hidden

> >> toxins. (As non-reactive as it is, a few people do have trouble

> > with

> >> poplar. Heavenly Heat offers different options that have more

glass

> >> and less wood for anyone concerned about that. Dr. Rea typically

> >> recommends getting more glass and less wood to lessn the chance

of

> > any

> >> reaction.)

> >>

> >> There are other saunas on the market made from poplar wood but

do

> > your

> >> research carefully. Before we purchased our sauna, we talked

> >> extensively with Dr. Rea. He told us that in his clinical

> > experience,

> >> Heavenly Heat ones are the only portable saunas that are safe

> > enough

> >> for someone with a damaged immune system. In his experience,

other

> >> brands, even ones made of poplar, put out too many toxins when

> > heated

> >> and make people sicker, or they just don't improve.

> >>

> >> Andy talks about people getting sick from sauna and this is

> > absolutely

> >> true. I've talked to plenty of patients at Dr. Rea's clinic who

got

> >> sicker, sometimes way sicker, from sauna they did before coming

to

> > Dr.

> >> Rea (both dry heat and FIR). BUT, what they eventually found

after

> >> trying the 'clean' saunas at Dr. Rea's was this: it was not

sauna

> > that

> >> made them sick; they got sicker because the brand of sauna they

> > were

> >> using before they went to Dr. Rea had toxins. These toxins

> > outgassed

> >> big time every time they used the unit. I heard so many stories

> > about

> >> these saunas now sitting in the garage or shed being unused, or

> > they

> >> were being used as an expensive storage closet. I hate to

trash a

> >> company I don't have personal experience with, but the most

common

> >> brand I heard complaints about, in fact the only brand I heard

> >> complaints about was High Tech Health (HTH). Complaints of

> >> formaldehyde and high electromagnetic radiation and getting

> > seriously

> >> sicker were common, also complaints about HTH refusing to take

the

> >> unit back or charging an exhorbitant fee to do so. Personally,

I

> > don't

> >> think its worth the chance when there is a safe alternative

readily

> >> available (Heavenly Heat).

> >>

> >> A sauna is a big purchase and it would be tragic for a family

> > already

> >> overloaded with expenses to treat autism to end up with a sauna

> > that

> >> didn't help their child due to putting toxins when heated, or

even

> >> worse, made them sicker. So if you are uncertain, do careful

> > research.

> >> Ask the manufacturer tough questions. Is the wood solid? Is

ALL

> > the

> >> wood solid? Is any laminated or layered? (This will mean glue is

> >> present). How is the wood processed? Is the wood treated,

stained,

> >> varnished? How is the unit held together? Screws? Glue? Is

there

> > any

> >> plastic? Plywood? Is there any formaldehyde used to manufacture

> > any of

> >> the materials in this unit? How much electromagnetic radiation

> > (EMF)

> >> does each heater emit? This is especially important for the FIR

> > units

> >> since you sit with your back right next to them! (You can test

this

> >> yourself with a gaussmeter--look for 5-7 as ideal and

definitely

> > under

> >> 10). Where is the unit made? Units made offshore may or may

not

> > have

> >> as stringent quality control so this might give you some clues

as

> > to

> >> the potential presence of toxins. And so on. Knowing what I

do

> > now,

> >> I would ask for test results~from an independent test lab~on air

> >> quality inside the unit when the unit is on. It would be so

easy

> > for a

> >> salesman to say it's clean when really it's not and that's not a

> >> chance I would want to take with my son's health.

> >>

> >> (2) As far as a sauna protocol, there are lots of them floating

> > around

> >> out there on the internet and even from sauna companies. These

are

> >> might be a good starting point for some, but not for others.

It's

> >> probably safer and more ideal to have one that's specific for

your

> >> child (or you). Everyone is different and needs to move at

their

> > own

> >> pace. Some of Dr. Rea's patients can tolerate dry heat + FIR

sauna

> > 6

> >> days a week at very high temperatures for 30 minutes. At the

other

> > end

> >> of the spectrum, I met a woman who can only tolerate 5 minutes

of

> >> sauna, at a low temperature, once a month without getting

sicker.

> > The

> >> sauna is helping her, but she has to go oh so slow. Were she to

use

> >> one of the general protocols out there, she'd get seriously

sicker

> > and

> >> probably conclude that sauna was harmful for her. At that

level, it

> >> would be. Also, different people may need differing amounts of

> >> mineral replacement supplements and other nutritional support

as

> > part

> >> of their protocol, depending on their personal situation and

how

> > much

> >> mercury (and other toxins) they have. Certainly, you CAN do

sauna

> >> without having a customized protocol, but it's safer and more

> > optimal

> >> (that is: it works faster/better) to have a protocol based on

your

> > own

> >> situation.

> >>

> >> In addition, when I was first investigating sauna for my son, I

> > didn't

> >> plan to use dry heat for my son at all, just FIR. (This is

because

> > I

> >> had read Sherry 's books and she recommends only FIR). Dr.

Rea

> >> said that in his clinical experience with sauna, which is now

at

> >> about 30 years, that some people have better detox and fewer

> > problems

> >> with dry heat, some with FIR, and some with a combination of

both.

> > I

> >> don't know that this is well recognized in autism circles, yet.

Dr.

> >> Rea also said that at different points in your healing path, as

you

> >> are getting rid of different toxins, dry heat might be better

than

> >> FIR, or vice versa. When I asked Dr. Rea about Dr. 's

> >> recommendation for only FIR, I found out that she is one of his

> >> patients, and she doesn't use sauna in her practice so I really

> > trust

> >> his opinion since it's based on actual experience. If you get a

> > unit

> >> iwth both dry heat and FIR, it gives you more flexibility for

> >> different family members and different points in your healing

path.

> >> For Heavenly Heat, the ones with both dry and FIR heat are

called

> > A+,

> >> I think.

> >>

> >> (3) Dr. Rea does blood work to monitor liver and kidney

function

> > and

> >> mineral levels, among other things and he does it often,

> > especially at

> >> the beginning. He feels this is necessary to make sure you are

> > moving

> >> at the optimum rate and not getting depleted or developing other

> >> problems. Checking liver and kidney function is important

because

> > when

> >> you sauna, more toxins are released from their storage sites

than

> > get

> >> sweated out. Some get into the blood stream and have to be

> > processed

> >> and excreted by normal means, urine and bowel. You don't want to

> >> overtax those organs involved, which may already have a full

load

> > of

> >> work to do, by going to fast or not taking the correct

supplements.

> >> These are simple tests that any doctor can order.

> >>

> >> Sauna DOES work for getting rid of mercury and is very

effective

> > for

> >> doing so. However, like most things, it may or may not be the

> >> best/most effective/safest route for a specific person.

> >>

> >> Sorry this is so long, but thought you and perhaps others might

> > find

> >> the info useful.

> >>

> >> Mom of C and D

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

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I'm looking for the actual Towsend Report, but thanks for the story, too.

I'd love more specifics!

We have a Heavenly Heat now as well and are in our second week of using it.

Barb

[ ] Re: Sauna question

>>

>>

>> > The enormous detoxification value of saunas is discussed in the

>> > cover story of the new (April) issue of " The Townsend Letter. "

>> >

>> > The article evaluates responses in saunas of 9/11 rescue

> workers.

>> >

>> > These authors will be releasing studies soon on body-reductions

> of

>> > specific toxic substances including heavy metals.

>> >

>> > For those interested, I imagine that it can be ordered via their

> web

>> > site: www.townsendletter.com

>> >

>> > Bob.

>> >

>> >

>> > momofc_and_d@...:

>> >

>> >> We have been doing sauna (combination of dry heat and FIR) for

> my 8

>> >> year old son with autism for a year and a half with excellent

>> > results.

>> >> (He developed autism as a result of mercury in vaccinations).

> He

>> > has

>> >> gotten healthier and more robust physically. He's less

> allergic, he

>> >> stims less, he has much better cognitive function, and he has

>> > better

>> >> problem-solving skills. Also, GI function and stomachaches have

>> >> improved as his load of stored toxins has gone down. We've seen

>> > other

>> >> improvements too. .

>> >>

>> >> We see Rea, M.D. at the Environmental Health Center-

> Dallas.

>> >> He's now treated more than 30,000 patients with sauna (he uses

> a

>> > mix

>> >> of dry heat and FIR) since the 1970s and is widely regarded as

> THE

>> >> sauna guru. He says that sauna, including FIR, is safe for most

>> > people

>> >> , including people with mercury toxicity given (1) the right

>> > sauna, (2

>> >> ) the right sauna protocol, and (3) appropriate monitoring by a

>> > doctor

>> >> who is knowledgeable about sauna detox and has experience with

> it.

>> >>

>> >> I'll explain more: (1) All saunas are not the same. Some are

> made

>> > with

>> >> the most toxic materials you can imagine (for example vinyl and

>> > other

>> >> plastics) or slightly less toxic materials like pine or cedar.

> Some

>> >> are made with mostly safe materials (such as poplar and glass)

> but

>> >> have toxins anyway due to the (sometimes hidden) use of glues,

>> >> varnishes, plastic windows, plywood, etc. One of the

> cornerstones

>> > of

>> >> ensuring sauna safety is to use a sauna that has the most

> minimal

>> >> amount of toxins possible. The reason this is important is

> because

>> >> toxins stored in things like wood, plastic, varnish, etc. are

>> >> continuously outgassing. When you heat them up, they outgas

> even

>> > more.

>> >> Considering that heating is what a sauna does, having a sauna

> made

>> >> with materials that are anything less than the most toxin-free

>> >> possible is a bad mix. You'll be breathing in toxins that are

> in

>> > the

>> >> air as you sauna and try to dump toxins you already have.

>> >>

>> >> Dr. Rea says there are two good options for 'clean' saunas.

> First,

>> > you

>> >> can build your own of tile with toxin-free adhesive and grout

> (no

>> >> silicone, latex, etc.) and you will need to get toxin-free

> heating

>> >> units. The other option is Heavenly Heat's portable units. Their

>> >> saunas are made from untreated SOLID poplar wood (widely

> accepted

>> > as

>> >> the least toxic wood you can use) and glass. They don't use any

>> > glues,

>> >> varnish, plywood, or other materials that introduce obvious or

>> > hidden

>> >> toxins. (As non-reactive as it is, a few people do have trouble

>> > with

>> >> poplar. Heavenly Heat offers different options that have more

> glass

>> >> and less wood for anyone concerned about that. Dr. Rea typically

>> >> recommends getting more glass and less wood to lessn the chance

> of

>> > any

>> >> reaction.)

>> >>

>> >> There are other saunas on the market made from poplar wood but

> do

>> > your

>> >> research carefully. Before we purchased our sauna, we talked

>> >> extensively with Dr. Rea. He told us that in his clinical

>> > experience,

>> >> Heavenly Heat ones are the only portable saunas that are safe

>> > enough

>> >> for someone with a damaged immune system. In his experience,

> other

>> >> brands, even ones made of poplar, put out too many toxins when

>> > heated

>> >> and make people sicker, or they just don't improve.

>> >>

>> >> Andy talks about people getting sick from sauna and this is

>> > absolutely

>> >> true. I've talked to plenty of patients at Dr. Rea's clinic who

> got

>> >> sicker, sometimes way sicker, from sauna they did before coming

> to

>> > Dr.

>> >> Rea (both dry heat and FIR). BUT, what they eventually found

> after

>> >> trying the 'clean' saunas at Dr. Rea's was this: it was not

> sauna

>> > that

>> >> made them sick; they got sicker because the brand of sauna they

>> > were

>> >> using before they went to Dr. Rea had toxins. These toxins

>> > outgassed

>> >> big time every time they used the unit. I heard so many stories

>> > about

>> >> these saunas now sitting in the garage or shed being unused, or

>> > they

>> >> were being used as an expensive storage closet. I hate to

> trash a

>> >> company I don't have personal experience with, but the most

> common

>> >> brand I heard complaints about, in fact the only brand I heard

>> >> complaints about was High Tech Health (HTH). Complaints of

>> >> formaldehyde and high electromagnetic radiation and getting

>> > seriously

>> >> sicker were common, also complaints about HTH refusing to take

> the

>> >> unit back or charging an exhorbitant fee to do so. Personally,

> I

>> > don't

>> >> think its worth the chance when there is a safe alternative

> readily

>> >> available (Heavenly Heat).

>> >>

>> >> A sauna is a big purchase and it would be tragic for a family

>> > already

>> >> overloaded with expenses to treat autism to end up with a sauna

>> > that

>> >> didn't help their child due to putting toxins when heated, or

> even

>> >> worse, made them sicker. So if you are uncertain, do careful

>> > research.

>> >> Ask the manufacturer tough questions. Is the wood solid? Is

> ALL

>> > the

>> >> wood solid? Is any laminated or layered? (This will mean glue is

>> >> present). How is the wood processed? Is the wood treated,

> stained,

>> >> varnished? How is the unit held together? Screws? Glue? Is

> there

>> > any

>> >> plastic? Plywood? Is there any formaldehyde used to manufacture

>> > any of

>> >> the materials in this unit? How much electromagnetic radiation

>> > (EMF)

>> >> does each heater emit? This is especially important for the FIR

>> > units

>> >> since you sit with your back right next to them! (You can test

> this

>> >> yourself with a gaussmeter--look for 5-7 as ideal and

> definitely

>> > under

>> >> 10). Where is the unit made? Units made offshore may or may

> not

>> > have

>> >> as stringent quality control so this might give you some clues

> as

>> > to

>> >> the potential presence of toxins. And so on. Knowing what I

> do

>> > now,

>> >> I would ask for test results~from an independent test lab~on air

>> >> quality inside the unit when the unit is on. It would be so

> easy

>> > for a

>> >> salesman to say it's clean when really it's not and that's not a

>> >> chance I would want to take with my son's health.

>> >>

>> >> (2) As far as a sauna protocol, there are lots of them floating

>> > around

>> >> out there on the internet and even from sauna companies. These

> are

>> >> might be a good starting point for some, but not for others.

> It's

>> >> probably safer and more ideal to have one that's specific for

> your

>> >> child (or you). Everyone is different and needs to move at

> their

>> > own

>> >> pace. Some of Dr. Rea's patients can tolerate dry heat + FIR

> sauna

>> > 6

>> >> days a week at very high temperatures for 30 minutes. At the

> other

>> > end

>> >> of the spectrum, I met a woman who can only tolerate 5 minutes

> of

>> >> sauna, at a low temperature, once a month without getting

> sicker.

>> > The

>> >> sauna is helping her, but she has to go oh so slow. Were she to

> use

>> >> one of the general protocols out there, she'd get seriously

> sicker

>> > and

>> >> probably conclude that sauna was harmful for her. At that

> level, it

>> >> would be. Also, different people may need differing amounts of

>> >> mineral replacement supplements and other nutritional support

> as

>> > part

>> >> of their protocol, depending on their personal situation and

> how

>> > much

>> >> mercury (and other toxins) they have. Certainly, you CAN do

> sauna

>> >> without having a customized protocol, but it's safer and more

>> > optimal

>> >> (that is: it works faster/better) to have a protocol based on

> your

>> > own

>> >> situation.

>> >>

>> >> In addition, when I was first investigating sauna for my son, I

>> > didn't

>> >> plan to use dry heat for my son at all, just FIR. (This is

> because

>> > I

>> >> had read Sherry 's books and she recommends only FIR). Dr.

> Rea

>> >> said that in his clinical experience with sauna, which is now

> at

>> >> about 30 years, that some people have better detox and fewer

>> > problems

>> >> with dry heat, some with FIR, and some with a combination of

> both.

>> > I

>> >> don't know that this is well recognized in autism circles, yet.

> Dr.

>> >> Rea also said that at different points in your healing path, as

> you

>> >> are getting rid of different toxins, dry heat might be better

> than

>> >> FIR, or vice versa. When I asked Dr. Rea about Dr. 's

>> >> recommendation for only FIR, I found out that she is one of his

>> >> patients, and she doesn't use sauna in her practice so I really

>> > trust

>> >> his opinion since it's based on actual experience. If you get a

>> > unit

>> >> iwth both dry heat and FIR, it gives you more flexibility for

>> >> different family members and different points in your healing

> path.

>> >> For Heavenly Heat, the ones with both dry and FIR heat are

> called

>> > A+,

>> >> I think.

>> >>

>> >> (3) Dr. Rea does blood work to monitor liver and kidney

> function

>> > and

>> >> mineral levels, among other things and he does it often,

>> > especially at

>> >> the beginning. He feels this is necessary to make sure you are

>> > moving

>> >> at the optimum rate and not getting depleted or developing other

>> >> problems. Checking liver and kidney function is important

> because

>> > when

>> >> you sauna, more toxins are released from their storage sites

> than

>> > get

>> >> sweated out. Some get into the blood stream and have to be

>> > processed

>> >> and excreted by normal means, urine and bowel. You don't want to

>> >> overtax those organs involved, which may already have a full

> load

>> > of

>> >> work to do, by going to fast or not taking the correct

> supplements.

>> >> These are simple tests that any doctor can order.

>> >>

>> >> Sauna DOES work for getting rid of mercury and is very

> effective

>> > for

>> >> doing so. However, like most things, it may or may not be the

>> >> best/most effective/safest route for a specific person.

>> >>

>> >> Sorry this is so long, but thought you and perhaps others might

>> > find

>> >> the info useful.

>> >>

>> >> Mom of C and D

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > =======================================================

>> >

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Bob,

I checked the website for the townsend letter but they only have an

abstract of the article. Do you have the whole article? Can you post

it? Thanks.

-- In , " jromkema " <jromkema@...> wrote:

>

> Can you post this to the list?

>

> Barb

> [ ] Re: Sauna question

>

>

> > The enormous detoxification value of saunas is discussed in the

> > cover story of the new (April) issue of " The Townsend Letter. "

> >

> > The article evaluates responses in saunas of 9/11 rescue workers.

> >

> > These authors will be releasing studies soon on body-reductions of

> > specific toxic substances including heavy metals.

> >

> > For those interested, I imagine that it can be ordered via their web

> > site: www.townsendletter.com

> >

> > Bob.

> >

> >

> > momofc_and_d@...:

> >

> >> We have been doing sauna (combination of dry heat and FIR) for my 8

> >> year old son with autism for a year and a half with excellent

> > results.

> >> (He developed autism as a result of mercury in vaccinations). He

> > has

> >> gotten healthier and more robust physically. He's less allergic, he

> >> stims less, he has much better cognitive function, and he has

> > better

> >> problem-solving skills. Also, GI function and stomachaches have

> >> improved as his load of stored toxins has gone down. We've seen

> > other

> >> improvements too. .

> >>

> >> We see Rea, M.D. at the Environmental Health Center-Dallas.

> >> He's now treated more than 30,000 patients with sauna (he uses a

> > mix

> >> of dry heat and FIR) since the 1970s and is widely regarded as THE

> >> sauna guru. He says that sauna, including FIR, is safe for most

> > people

> >> , including people with mercury toxicity given (1) the right

> > sauna, (2

> >> ) the right sauna protocol, and (3) appropriate monitoring by a

> > doctor

> >> who is knowledgeable about sauna detox and has experience with it.

> >>

> >> I'll explain more: (1) All saunas are not the same. Some are made

> > with

> >> the most toxic materials you can imagine (for example vinyl and

> > other

> >> plastics) or slightly less toxic materials like pine or cedar. Some

> >> are made with mostly safe materials (such as poplar and glass) but

> >> have toxins anyway due to the (sometimes hidden) use of glues,

> >> varnishes, plastic windows, plywood, etc. One of the cornerstones

> > of

> >> ensuring sauna safety is to use a sauna that has the most minimal

> >> amount of toxins possible. The reason this is important is because

> >> toxins stored in things like wood, plastic, varnish, etc. are

> >> continuously outgassing. When you heat them up, they outgas even

> > more.

> >> Considering that heating is what a sauna does, having a sauna made

> >> with materials that are anything less than the most toxin-free

> >> possible is a bad mix. You'll be breathing in toxins that are in

> > the

> >> air as you sauna and try to dump toxins you already have.

> >>

> >> Dr. Rea says there are two good options for 'clean' saunas. First,

> > you

> >> can build your own of tile with toxin-free adhesive and grout (no

> >> silicone, latex, etc.) and you will need to get toxin-free heating

> >> units. The other option is Heavenly Heat's portable units. Their

> >> saunas are made from untreated SOLID poplar wood (widely accepted

> > as

> >> the least toxic wood you can use) and glass. They don't use any

> > glues,

> >> varnish, plywood, or other materials that introduce obvious or

> > hidden

> >> toxins. (As non-reactive as it is, a few people do have trouble

> > with

> >> poplar. Heavenly Heat offers different options that have more glass

> >> and less wood for anyone concerned about that. Dr. Rea typically

> >> recommends getting more glass and less wood to lessn the chance of

> > any

> >> reaction.)

> >>

> >> There are other saunas on the market made from poplar wood but do

> > your

> >> research carefully. Before we purchased our sauna, we talked

> >> extensively with Dr. Rea. He told us that in his clinical

> > experience,

> >> Heavenly Heat ones are the only portable saunas that are safe

> > enough

> >> for someone with a damaged immune system. In his experience, other

> >> brands, even ones made of poplar, put out too many toxins when

> > heated

> >> and make people sicker, or they just don't improve.

> >>

> >> Andy talks about people getting sick from sauna and this is

> > absolutely

> >> true. I've talked to plenty of patients at Dr. Rea's clinic who got

> >> sicker, sometimes way sicker, from sauna they did before coming to

> > Dr.

> >> Rea (both dry heat and FIR). BUT, what they eventually found after

> >> trying the 'clean' saunas at Dr. Rea's was this: it was not sauna

> > that

> >> made them sick; they got sicker because the brand of sauna they

> > were

> >> using before they went to Dr. Rea had toxins. These toxins

> > outgassed

> >> big time every time they used the unit. I heard so many stories

> > about

> >> these saunas now sitting in the garage or shed being unused, or

> > they

> >> were being used as an expensive storage closet. I hate to trash a

> >> company I don't have personal experience with, but the most common

> >> brand I heard complaints about, in fact the only brand I heard

> >> complaints about was High Tech Health (HTH). Complaints of

> >> formaldehyde and high electromagnetic radiation and getting

> > seriously

> >> sicker were common, also complaints about HTH refusing to take the

> >> unit back or charging an exhorbitant fee to do so. Personally, I

> > don't

> >> think its worth the chance when there is a safe alternative readily

> >> available (Heavenly Heat).

> >>

> >> A sauna is a big purchase and it would be tragic for a family

> > already

> >> overloaded with expenses to treat autism to end up with a sauna

> > that

> >> didn't help their child due to putting toxins when heated, or even

> >> worse, made them sicker. So if you are uncertain, do careful

> > research.

> >> Ask the manufacturer tough questions. Is the wood solid? Is ALL

> > the

> >> wood solid? Is any laminated or layered? (This will mean glue is

> >> present). How is the wood processed? Is the wood treated, stained,

> >> varnished? How is the unit held together? Screws? Glue? Is there

> > any

> >> plastic? Plywood? Is there any formaldehyde used to manufacture

> > any of

> >> the materials in this unit? How much electromagnetic radiation

> > (EMF)

> >> does each heater emit? This is especially important for the FIR

> > units

> >> since you sit with your back right next to them! (You can test this

> >> yourself with a gaussmeter--look for 5-7 as ideal and definitely

> > under

> >> 10). Where is the unit made? Units made offshore may or may not

> > have

> >> as stringent quality control so this might give you some clues as

> > to

> >> the potential presence of toxins. And so on. Knowing what I do

> > now,

> >> I would ask for test results~from an independent test lab~on air

> >> quality inside the unit when the unit is on. It would be so easy

> > for a

> >> salesman to say it's clean when really it's not and that's not a

> >> chance I would want to take with my son's health.

> >>

> >> (2) As far as a sauna protocol, there are lots of them floating

> > around

> >> out there on the internet and even from sauna companies. These are

> >> might be a good starting point for some, but not for others. It's

> >> probably safer and more ideal to have one that's specific for your

> >> child (or you). Everyone is different and needs to move at their

> > own

> >> pace. Some of Dr. Rea's patients can tolerate dry heat + FIR sauna

> > 6

> >> days a week at very high temperatures for 30 minutes. At the other

> > end

> >> of the spectrum, I met a woman who can only tolerate 5 minutes of

> >> sauna, at a low temperature, once a month without getting sicker.

> > The

> >> sauna is helping her, but she has to go oh so slow. Were she to use

> >> one of the general protocols out there, she'd get seriously sicker

> > and

> >> probably conclude that sauna was harmful for her. At that level, it

> >> would be. Also, different people may need differing amounts of

> >> mineral replacement supplements and other nutritional support as

> > part

> >> of their protocol, depending on their personal situation and how

> > much

> >> mercury (and other toxins) they have. Certainly, you CAN do sauna

> >> without having a customized protocol, but it's safer and more

> > optimal

> >> (that is: it works faster/better) to have a protocol based on your

> > own

> >> situation.

> >>

> >> In addition, when I was first investigating sauna for my son, I

> > didn't

> >> plan to use dry heat for my son at all, just FIR. (This is because

> > I

> >> had read Sherry 's books and she recommends only FIR). Dr. Rea

> >> said that in his clinical experience with sauna, which is now at

> >> about 30 years, that some people have better detox and fewer

> > problems

> >> with dry heat, some with FIR, and some with a combination of both.

> > I

> >> don't know that this is well recognized in autism circles, yet. Dr.

> >> Rea also said that at different points in your healing path, as you

> >> are getting rid of different toxins, dry heat might be better than

> >> FIR, or vice versa. When I asked Dr. Rea about Dr. 's

> >> recommendation for only FIR, I found out that she is one of his

> >> patients, and she doesn't use sauna in her practice so I really

> > trust

> >> his opinion since it's based on actual experience. If you get a

> > unit

> >> iwth both dry heat and FIR, it gives you more flexibility for

> >> different family members and different points in your healing path.

> >> For Heavenly Heat, the ones with both dry and FIR heat are called

> > A+,

> >> I think.

> >>

> >> (3) Dr. Rea does blood work to monitor liver and kidney function

> > and

> >> mineral levels, among other things and he does it often,

> > especially at

> >> the beginning. He feels this is necessary to make sure you are

> > moving

> >> at the optimum rate and not getting depleted or developing other

> >> problems. Checking liver and kidney function is important because

> > when

> >> you sauna, more toxins are released from their storage sites than

> > get

> >> sweated out. Some get into the blood stream and have to be

> > processed

> >> and excreted by normal means, urine and bowel. You don't want to

> >> overtax those organs involved, which may already have a full load

> > of

> >> work to do, by going to fast or not taking the correct supplements.

> >> These are simple tests that any doctor can order.

> >>

> >> Sauna DOES work for getting rid of mercury and is very effective

> > for

> >> doing so. However, like most things, it may or may not be the

> >> best/most effective/safest route for a specific person.

> >>

> >> Sorry this is so long, but thought you and perhaps others might

> > find

> >> the info useful.

> >>

> >> Mom of C and D

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

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