Re: Supplements for my 2 year son

[Guest guest]

At that age I was giving my daughter 2 ProEFA tablets a day.

I now give her a teaspoon a day of Ultimate Omega liquid from Nordic

Naturals. It is flavored with natural lemon.

She has made huge gains since making this change.

And FYI, my daughter started talking after giving her EFAs and that was

after trying speech therapy.

It does help!

[ ] Supplements for my 2 year son

After reading the book " Late Talker " , I asked my pediatrician

about giving my son supplements at his well visit, to help him with

delays in gross motor and speech. She told me that they would not make a

difference and give him a 1/2 of a Flintstone vitamin tablet each day.

After reading the posts of success with supplements, I am still

motivated to learn more but need direction. I have heard of the brand

Nordic Naturals as a " good " supplement but then what type (fish oil only

or combination) and will it be too much given with the Flinstone

vitamin.

I hate to depend on the person working the counter at the

vitamin store but have heard so many opinions, some of which contradict,

whats a mom to do?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

My son's speech therapist recommended the fish oil supplements and I spoke to my

pediatrician aobut it and she said absolutely not.  I don't know what to do

either.  His speech pathologist recommends Toddler DHA and the brand is

Spectrum

Essentials.  I am not sure if I should ignore pediatricians advise.  I agree

with you how do we know what to do when getting conflicting advice?

Vicki

________________________________

From: lisam1010 <lisam1010@...>

Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 3:30:26 PM

Subject: [ ] Supplements for my 2 year son

 

After reading the book " Late Talker " , I asked my pediatrician about giving my

son supplements at his well visit, to help him with delays in gross motor and

speech. She told me that they would not make a difference and give him a 1/2 of

a Flintstone vitamin tablet each day.

After reading the posts of success with supplements, I am still motivated to

learn more but need direction. I have heard of the brand Nordic Naturals as a

" good " supplement but then what type (fish oil only or combination) and will it

be too much given with the Flinstone vitamin.

I hate to depend on the person working the counter at the vitamin store but have

heard so many opinions, some of which contradict, whats a mom to do?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I know people hate when I say this but it's my opinion....what should you do?

Find another pediatrician! I mean come on- I can understand not yet knowing

about the importance of essential amino acids (all of them) daily as they are

still in the rat and mice study phase in many cases with leading university

medical and neuroscientists...but fish oil?!!! You'd have to be under a rock at

this point to not know the importance of the essential fatty acids for healthy

brain and eye function -that is so well publicized that they even promote it on

the EFA enriched infant formula which was approved by the FDA based on such

studies.

I live in Florida now and am fully understanding that main street MD may or may

not be knowledgeable about all aspects of nutrition- no less all we know in this

group after a decade with thousands of members which is priceless and proven

information.. but I seek those professionals that are:

1. Respected in the community by other doctors as well as patients

2. NOT alarmists -I'm hyper enough, I like common sense MDs.

3. Open minded to out of the box and new ideas and still learning.

4. Out of the box him or herself!

What we have today is the ability to dig ourselves more than our parents and

grandparents had. They had medical reference books which did not contain mice

research...that was the stuff Lorenzo's Oil was made from- and back then they

had to find that study at a library after extensive searching for help. By the

way...the one medical doctor that presented at our First Apraxia Conference

http://www.cherab.org/news/scientific.html

http://www.cherabfoundation.org/2001/cherab-foundations-first-apraxia-conference\

/ was the distinguished Dr. Hugo Moser (who sadly passed away since our

conference) http://www.kennedykrieger.org/kki_staff.jsp?pid=1841 who is the

doctor featured in the movie of the same name, and who a decade later validated

Lorenzo's Oil.

I'll never forget Dr. Moser POUNDING her fist on a podium at our conference

after hearing about all the surges in all the children - and not just parental

anecdotal, but professional anecdotal and shouting " RESEARCH NEEDS TO BE DONE

IMMEDIATELY! DO NOT WAIT! RESEARCH NEEDS TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY! " (we had

hundreds of reports but the one doctor only wanted " medical doctors " not SLPs

and teachers...but when the professional anecdotal was validated mainly the only

professionals to personally witness the dramatic changes were the SLPs and

teachers who saw the child almost every day!) Perhaps that is because he led the

trials for Lorenzo's Oil after being portrayed not in the best light in the

movie (as you can see here)

And

notice how these parents are attacked by a support group they used to belong

to...and again this oil which was attacked ended up being validated. Imagine if

Lorenzo's parents were not working with an incredible medical doctor -Dr. Hugo

Moser? Imagine.

Perhaps Dr. Moser in his infinite wisdom somehow knew that over a decade later

we would NOT have research done to validate fish oils for this population of

speech and/or language impaired individuals and that somewhere in the USA...ten

years later... a mom would go to her pediatrician who would advise her to give

her child a half a Flintstone vitamin (? was that thinking why get too healthy

with a whole Flintstone vitamin?!) instead of essential fatty acids.

Essential nutrients can not be made by the body but are needed daily so they

need to be consumed. This includes essential fatty acids (such as the fish

oils) and essential amino acids and nutrients.

It would be overwhelming to try to explain all this group has learned over the

past decade and at one point long ago I too may have taken the advice of a

pediatrician who told me to give my child a half a Flintstone vitamin so that we

don't clog the sewer system with too many Flintstone vitamins (I'd have to find

the research but much of those vitamins are flushed down the toilet unabsorbed

by the body. I read 90% but would want to find the actual study) Essential fatty

acids are not vitamins -but I still would not advise the Flintstone when we now

it appears learned from this group due to NV that food sources are more easily

digestible and utilized.

So to make this parent friendly examine

Beechnut

http://www.beechnut.com/leading-edge%20nutrition/studyShowsBigBenefits.asp

EFA enriched infant formula

http://similac.com/baby-formula/similac-advance

and perhaps if you want to read more scientific information

http://efaeducation.nih.gov/

Here is our " fish oils 101 " from our http://www.apraxia.org fb site

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=7401

And here is why essential amino acids and nutrients from whole food sources is

so important based on the science

http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

There are a number of good brands- ProEFA, EyeQ, Coromega for fish oils-but

you'll find all of that in the above links. Again I'd say I'd personally find

another pediatrician, chuck the Flintstone vitamin and just keep the cartoons

(love the Flintstones) -but that's me.

=====

[Guest guest]

Do the research!!! Read and see how much DHA and EPA are in baby

formula.... that will answer your questions. And if you choose to give

something like Nordic, you are not having to worry about toxins like

mercury.

[ ] Supplements for my 2 year son

After reading the book " Late Talker " , I asked my pediatrician

about giving my

son supplements at his well visit, to help him with delays in

gross motor and

speech. She told me that they would not make a difference and

give him a 1/2 of

a Flintstone vitamin tablet each day.

After reading the posts of success with supplements, I am still

motivated to

learn more but need direction. I have heard of the brand Nordic

Naturals as a

" good " supplement but then what type (fish oil only or

combination) and will it

be too much given with the Flinstone vitamin.

I hate to depend on the person working the counter at the

vitamin store but have

heard so many opinions, some of which contradict, whats a mom to

do?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

The product my SLP recommended is not actually fish oil, it is made from algea,

but supposedly has all the same nutrients.  has anyone tried that? 

Vicki

________________________________

From: D. Meyer <mmeyer@...>

Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 4:28:23 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Supplements for my 2 year son

 

Do the research!!! Read and see how much DHA and EPA are in baby

formula.... that will answer your questions. And if you choose to give

something like Nordic, you are not having to worry about toxins like

mercury.

[Guest guest]

I give my 2 year old 2 ProEFA, 1 ProEPA, and one heaping scoop of

Nutriiveda a day. Both his neurologist and his pediatrician have approved

this....they both told me that they didn't think they would help, but that it

wouldn't hurt...well, it hasn't hurt and they help A LOT!!!!!

-Brittany

[Guest guest]

wow...so much could be said about that statement your pediatrician made.  She

wants you to NOT give him something healthy like fish oils or NV, but yes give

him something that in my opinion is not that healthy at all. (contains dyes and

aspertame).  Nordic naturals are tested for purity and is the brand most here

use. There is a ton of info in the archives, but the combo most use is 2

gelcaps

complete 3-6-9 and 1 gelcap EPA. its water soluable, so what isn't needed by the

body gets expelled.

I find if I go to the doctors office armed with information beforehand I get

less of the eye-roll reaction.  I can tell you that if I felt that my doctor

was

being closed minded, I'd go somewhere else.  The fish oils are something that

most definately helped my son with speech and I don't care which doctor tells me

otherwise...i know the truth of was I saw. My doctor really is on board now and

it's been years since he gave me the old " well...it wouldn't hurt " speech!

Do your research on fish oils as well as flintstone vitamin ingredients and

you'll be able to see which is the better choice.

sandy

________________________________

From: lisam1010 <lisam1010@...>

Sent: Thu, November 4, 2010 3:30:26 PM

Subject: [ ] Supplements for my 2 year son

 

After reading the book " Late Talker " , I asked my pediatrician about giving my

son supplements at his well visit, to help him with delays in gross motor and

speech. She told me that they would not make a difference and give him a 1/2 of

a Flintstone vitamin tablet each day.

After reading the posts of success with supplements, I am still motivated to

learn more but need direction. I have heard of the brand Nordic Naturals as a

" good " supplement but then what type (fish oil only or combination) and will it

be too much given with the Flinstone vitamin.

I hate to depend on the person working the counter at the vitamin store but have

heard so many opinions, some of which contradict, whats a mom to do?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Doesn't even Dr. Sears recommend fish oils? If I remember, he believes

in them and now has them on his website.

Pam in GA.

>

> Hi ,

>

> I know people hate when I say this but it's my opinion....what should you do?

Find another pediatrician! I mean come on- I can understand not yet knowing

about the importance of essential amino acids (all of them) daily as they are

still in the rat and mice study phase in many cases with leading university

medical and neuroscientists...but fish oil?!!! You'd have to be under a rock at

this point to not know the importance of the essential fatty acids for healthy

brain and eye function -that is so well publicized that they even promote it on

the EFA enriched infant formula which was approved by the FDA based on such

studies.

>

> I live in Florida now and am fully understanding that main street MD may or

may not be knowledgeable about all aspects of nutrition- no less all we know in

this group after a decade with thousands of members which is priceless and

proven information.. but I seek those professionals that are:

>

> 1. Respected in the community by other doctors as well as patients

> 2. NOT alarmists -I'm hyper enough, I like common sense MDs.

> 3. Open minded to out of the box and new ideas and still learning.

> 4. Out of the box him or herself!

>

> What we have today is the ability to dig ourselves more than our parents and

grandparents had. They had medical reference books which did not contain mice

research...that was the stuff Lorenzo's Oil was made from- and back then they

had to find that study at a library after extensive searching for help. By the

way...the one medical doctor that presented at our First Apraxia Conference

http://www.cherab.org/news/scientific.html

http://www.cherabfoundation.org/2001/cherab-foundations-first-apraxia-conference\

/ was the distinguished Dr. Hugo Moser (who sadly passed away since our

conference) http://www.kennedykrieger.org/kki_staff.jsp?pid=1841 who is the

doctor featured in the movie of the same name, and who a decade later validated

Lorenzo's Oil.

>

> I'll never forget Dr. Moser POUNDING her fist on a podium at our conference

after hearing about all the surges in all the children - and not just parental

anecdotal, but professional anecdotal and shouting " RESEARCH NEEDS TO BE DONE

IMMEDIATELY! DO NOT WAIT! RESEARCH NEEDS TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY! " (we had

hundreds of reports but the one doctor only wanted " medical doctors " not SLPs

and teachers...but when the professional anecdotal was validated mainly the only

professionals to personally witness the dramatic changes were the SLPs and

teachers who saw the child almost every day!) Perhaps that is because he led the

trials for Lorenzo's Oil after being portrayed not in the best light in the

movie (as you can see here)

And

notice how these parents are attacked by a support group they used to belong

to...and again this oil which was attacked ended up being validated. Imagine if

Lorenzo's parents were not working with an incredible medical doctor -Dr. Hugo

Moser? Imagine.

>

> Perhaps Dr. Moser in his infinite wisdom somehow knew that over a decade later

we would NOT have research done to validate fish oils for this population of

speech and/or language impaired individuals and that somewhere in the USA...ten

years later... a mom would go to her pediatrician who would advise her to give

her child a half a Flintstone vitamin (? was that thinking why get too healthy

with a whole Flintstone vitamin?!) instead of essential fatty acids.

>

> Essential nutrients can not be made by the body but are needed daily so they

need to be consumed. This includes essential fatty acids (such as the fish

oils) and essential amino acids and nutrients.

>

> It would be overwhelming to try to explain all this group has learned over the

past decade and at one point long ago I too may have taken the advice of a

pediatrician who told me to give my child a half a Flintstone vitamin so that we

don't clog the sewer system with too many Flintstone vitamins (I'd have to find

the research but much of those vitamins are flushed down the toilet unabsorbed

by the body. I read 90% but would want to find the actual study) Essential fatty

acids are not vitamins -but I still would not advise the Flintstone when we now

it appears learned from this group due to NV that food sources are more easily

digestible and utilized.

>

> So to make this parent friendly examine

>

> Beechnut

> http://www.beechnut.com/leading-edge%20nutrition/studyShowsBigBenefits.asp

>

> EFA enriched infant formula

> http://similac.com/baby-formula/similac-advance

>

> and perhaps if you want to read more scientific information

> http://efaeducation.nih.gov/

>

> Here is our " fish oils 101 " from our http://www.apraxia.org fb site

> http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=115029735601 & topic=7401

>

> And here is why essential amino acids and nutrients from whole food sources is

so important based on the science

> http://pursuitofresearch.org/science.html

>

> There are a number of good brands- ProEFA, EyeQ, Coromega for fish oils-but

you'll find all of that in the above links. Again I'd say I'd personally find

another pediatrician, chuck the Flintstone vitamin and just keep the cartoons

(love the Flintstones) -but that's me.

>

> =====

>