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Hi all,

A short question today. I know there is some sort of lung problem that can

occur with methotrexate. it is suppose to be quite rare, but when I started

with metho I had a baseline chest x-ray and pulmonary function test done so

we'd have a baseline. I am now having some quite uncomfortable lung

problems. What are these problems like with metho? has anyone had this

happen? I am a smoker too and haven't hardly smoked the last few days as it

hurts too bad. So I need to know what the problem is like.

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In a message dated 9/28/99 8:30:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

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<< What are these problems like with metho? >>

For me...the lung problems with MTX only happen when the MTX is working very

well. It was a non-specific ache...and some slight wheezing to go with it.

Now that the MTX has diminished in effectiveness...so have the associated

side effects.

Annette :)

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Hi Hermann,

I am new to the type O list, and I read the article you posted on soy

with great interest. I have used soy products for years, and I, too, have

experienced side effects, but believed in the benefits out-weighing the

potential health risks.

Recently I realized I had to quit taking the soy protein powder, as I am

on hormone replacement, and I was getting many bizarre symptoms, thinking I

was on too much hormone. I stopped using the protein, and within a couple

weeks, the symptoms subsided. I have had a lot of the " brain fog " and

lethargy, and I am hoping that those symptoms will all go away, too. (Never

related this to soy!) I just stopped taking the protein about six weeks ago.

I've still been using the soy milk, but I will stop that too.

I was wondering what the source of the article is.

Also, I was wondering if you or anyone else would have any suggestions

what to use as a milk substitute. I'm wondering about almond or rice milk.

It's only been about a week that I've been on the O plan, and I'm doing

well. Has anyone experienced detoxifying symptoms?

Thanks,

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Hi

!

I

found this article in nexus magazine , which I reed all the time . Nexus

magazine is not a health magazine , but a conspiracy magazine.

I

like it because they look at all kinds of topics . You can go to their website

and read more interesting articles.

The address is

Nexusmagazine.com

.. my experience with soy started ,

when I talked my self in to being a vegetarian . I started to use more and more

Soy

products , and gained weight . my energy level dropped , and my sex drive

slowed down . I tried all kinds of energy supplements,

But

then I could not sleep well at night. When I read the article , everything

started to make sense . I stopped

using most of the soy, and I am

Eating

meat again , and feeling better . I read Ann Louise Gittleman’s book , your

body knows best , which is all about blood types .

Last

week I got the two books from peter d’ adamo from the library , and do a lot of

reading.

I

use rice milk here and there , but I am gaining weight from it . My favorite drink is water, and I drink

lot’s of it.

Have

a nice day . tschuess Hermann

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Number 285

Hi Hermann,

I am new to the type O list, and I read the

article you posted on soy

with great interest. I have used soy products for years, and I, too,

have

experienced side effects, but believed in the benefits out-weighing the

potential health risks.

Recently I realized I had to quit taking the soy

protein powder, as I am

on hormone replacement, and I was getting many bizarre symptoms, thinking I

was on too much hormone. I stopped using the protein, and within a

couple

weeks, the symptoms subsided. I have had a lot of the " brain

fog " and

lethargy, and I am hoping that those symptoms will all go away, too. (Never

related this to soy!) I just stopped taking the protein about six weeks

ago.

I've still been using the soy milk, but I will stop that too.

I was wondering what the source of the article is.

Also, I was wondering if you or anyone else would

have any suggestions

what to use as a milk substitute. I'm wondering about almond or rice

milk.

It's only been about a week that I've been on the

O plan, and I'm doing

well. Has anyone experienced detoxifying symptoms?

Thanks,

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I use rice dream (milk) and its great. Made from 100% pure rice with no

additives. Its a little thinner than soy milk but I think the benefits

outweigh the cost.

in nz.

Re: Digest Number 285

Hi Hermann,

I am new to the type O list, and I read the article you posted on soy

with great interest. I have used soy products for years, and I, too, have

experienced side effects, but believed in the benefits out-weighing the

potential health risks.

Recently I realized I had to quit taking the soy protein powder, as I

am

on hormone replacement, and I was getting many bizarre symptoms, thinking I

was on too much hormone. I stopped using the protein, and within a couple

weeks, the symptoms subsided. I have had a lot of the " brain fog " and

lethargy, and I am hoping that those symptoms will all go away, too. (Never

related this to soy!) I just stopped taking the protein about six weeks ago.

I've still been using the soy milk, but I will stop that too.

I was wondering what the source of the article is.

Also, I was wondering if you or anyone else would have any suggestions

what to use as a milk substitute. I'm wondering about almond or rice milk.

It's only been about a week that I've been on the O plan, and I'm doing

well. Has anyone experienced detoxifying symptoms?

Thanks,

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Here is another link with some very good information on Soy.

http://www.mercola.com/2000/june/10/soy_dangers.htm

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Re: Digest Number 285

Hi Hermann,

I am new to the type O list, and I read the article you posted on soy

with great interest. I have used soy products for years, and I, too, have

experienced side effects, but believed in the benefits out-weighing the

potential health risks.

Recently I realized I had to quit taking the soy protein powder, as I

am

on hormone replacement, and I was getting many bizarre symptoms, thinking I

was on too much hormone. I stopped using the protein, and within a couple

weeks, the symptoms subsided. I have had a lot of the " brain fog " and

lethargy, and I am hoping that those symptoms will all go away, too. (Never

related this to soy!) I just stopped taking the protein about six weeks ago.

I've still been using the soy milk, but I will stop that too.

I was wondering what the source of the article is.

Also, I was wondering if you or anyone else would have any suggestions

what to use as a milk substitute. I'm wondering about almond or rice milk.

It's only been about a week that I've been on the O plan, and I'm doing

well. Has anyone experienced detoxifying symptoms?

Thanks,

------------------------------------------------------------------------

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,

Rice milk I am not so fussed on but I have realised I am a bit hypoglycemic

so for me it is not good. Almond milk is great although I don't know about

how often. I get the feeling not to have it every day. As for my problems

with soy I have sent an earlier email but I do have problems with soy. DOES

EVERYONE REALISE THAT A LOT OF SOY MILKS AND PRODUCTS HAVE MALTODEXTRIN IN

THEM WHICH IS WHEAT SUGAR. I was reacting to a particular type of soy milk

when I started drinking it years ago and couldn't work out why until I rang

the manuf. to find what it has in it. Sherry

>From: pbgmmg@...

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>egroups

>Subject: Re: Digest Number 285

>Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:33:09 EDT

>

>Hi Hermann,

> I am new to the type O list, and I read the article you posted on soy

>with great interest. I have used soy products for years, and I, too, have

>experienced side effects, but believed in the benefits out-weighing the

>potential health risks.

> Recently I realized I had to quit taking the soy protein powder, as I

>am

>on hormone replacement, and I was getting many bizarre symptoms, thinking I

>was on too much hormone. I stopped using the protein, and within a couple

>weeks, the symptoms subsided. I have had a lot of the " brain fog " and

>lethargy, and I am hoping that those symptoms will all go away, too. (Never

>related this to soy!) I just stopped taking the protein about six weeks

>ago.

>I've still been using the soy milk, but I will stop that too.

> I was wondering what the source of the article is.

> Also, I was wondering if you or anyone else would have any

>suggestions

>what to use as a milk substitute. I'm wondering about almond or rice milk.

> It's only been about a week that I've been on the O plan, and I'm

>doing

>well. Has anyone experienced detoxifying symptoms?

> Thanks,

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I find that the fresh rice milk is quite good. Better than the tetra paks.

Prescott

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>

>

> Hi Hermann,

> I am new to the type O list, and I read the article you posted on soy

> with great interest. I have used soy products for years, and I, too, have

> experienced side effects, but believed in the benefits out-weighing the

> potential health risks.

> Recently I realized I had to quit taking the soy protein powder, as I

> am

> on hormone replacement, and I was getting many bizarre symptoms, thinking

I

> was on too much hormone. I stopped using the protein, and within a couple

> weeks, the symptoms subsided. I have had a lot of the " brain fog " and

> lethargy, and I am hoping that those symptoms will all go away, too.

(Never

> related this to soy!) I just stopped taking the protein about six weeks

ago.

> I've still been using the soy milk, but I will stop that too.

> I was wondering what the source of the article is.

> Also, I was wondering if you or anyone else would have any

suggestions

> what to use as a milk substitute. I'm wondering about almond or rice

milk.

> It's only been about a week that I've been on the O plan, and I'm

doing

> well. Has anyone experienced detoxifying symptoms?

> Thanks,

>

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We can't get it fresh here. We have a country full of dairy cows !! plenty

of fresh milk, but our rice milk is imported mostly from the USA.

I have also been looking for alternatives to Rice Milk, just for a change if

nothing else but there doesn't seem to be any. Only almond but I'm not sure

if that's any good for our diet. The almond milk packet has a few additives

listed (chemicals) and the rice mild is pure, that's why I've been sticking

with it.

.

Re: Digest Number 285

I find that the fresh rice milk is quite good. Better than the tetra paks.

Prescott

gprescottis@...

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>

>

> Hi Hermann,

> I am new to the type O list, and I read the article you posted on soy

> with great interest. I have used soy products for years, and I, too, have

> experienced side effects, but believed in the benefits out-weighing the

> potential health risks.

> Recently I realized I had to quit taking the soy protein powder, as I

> am

> on hormone replacement, and I was getting many bizarre symptoms, thinking

I

> was on too much hormone. I stopped using the protein, and within a couple

> weeks, the symptoms subsided. I have had a lot of the " brain fog " and

> lethargy, and I am hoping that those symptoms will all go away, too.

(Never

> related this to soy!) I just stopped taking the protein about six weeks

ago.

> I've still been using the soy milk, but I will stop that too.

> I was wondering what the source of the article is.

> Also, I was wondering if you or anyone else would have any

suggestions

> what to use as a milk substitute. I'm wondering about almond or rice

milk.

> It's only been about a week that I've been on the O plan, and I'm

doing

> well. Has anyone experienced detoxifying symptoms?

> Thanks,

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Shop at gazoontite.com & breathe happier and healthier! Click here!

> 1/5491/8/_/473523/_/961335193/

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you can make your own almond milk. 1/3cup of almonds the receipe says

blanched but I use the ones with skins on, 2/3cups water. The rest of the

receipe has 5 pitted dates, honey or any thing else you want to put in it.

It is called NUT-MILK SHAKE from the Raw Energy Receipes that I tried to

follow years ago. I wonder if you could make your own Rice Milk by either

cooking the rice and then blending with water and straining or

blending/grinding the uncooked rice and then cooking. Sherry

>From: " " <pfs1958@...>

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><egroups>

>Subject: RE: Digest Number 285

>Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:58:13 +1200

>

>We can't get it fresh here. We have a country full of dairy cows !! plenty

>of fresh milk, but our rice milk is imported mostly from the USA.

>I have also been looking for alternatives to Rice Milk, just for a change

>if

>nothing else but there doesn't seem to be any. Only almond but I'm not sure

>if that's any good for our diet. The almond milk packet has a few additives

>listed (chemicals) and the rice mild is pure, that's why I've been sticking

>with it.

>

>.

>

>

> Re: Digest Number 285

>

>

>I find that the fresh rice milk is quite good. Better than the tetra paks.

> Prescott

>gprescottis@...

> Re: Digest Number 285

> >

> >

> > Hi Hermann,

> > I am new to the type O list, and I read the article you posted on

>soy

> > with great interest. I have used soy products for years, and I, too,

>have

> > experienced side effects, but believed in the benefits out-weighing the

> > potential health risks.

> > Recently I realized I had to quit taking the soy protein powder, as

>I

> > am

> > on hormone replacement, and I was getting many bizarre symptoms,

>thinking

>I

> > was on too much hormone. I stopped using the protein, and within a

>couple

> > weeks, the symptoms subsided. I have had a lot of the " brain fog " and

> > lethargy, and I am hoping that those symptoms will all go away, too.

>(Never

> > related this to soy!) I just stopped taking the protein about six weeks

>ago.

> > I've still been using the soy milk, but I will stop that too.

> > I was wondering what the source of the article is.

> > Also, I was wondering if you or anyone else would have any

>suggestions

> > what to use as a milk substitute. I'm wondering about almond or rice

>milk.

> > It's only been about a week that I've been on the O plan, and I'm

>doing

> > well. Has anyone experienced detoxifying symptoms?

> > Thanks,

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> > Shop at gazoontite.com & breathe happier and healthier! Click here!

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Dear Lora:

In the pen, (at least the 2 week kind), there is enough for

approximately 1/3-1/2 extra dose. If you get a script from your doctor,

or sometimes the pharmacy will just give one to you, you can obtain a

normal, sealed, multiple doseage vial. You can add the extra to that,

and you should have enough. Marty

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OKay, here I go again. Seems like I can't focus on anything these days. I

do have the two week pen. So what you are saying is that I should get an

empty vial and somehow put the excess from all the pens in it till I get a

full dose??? Then wouldn't I need a syringe? Since the pen does not use a

syringe, then what????

Marty, and all, thanks for not making me feel STOOPID!! :)

Although, I probably wouldn't care if you did, cause I feel VERY STOOPID! LOL!

Staying positive and stoopid :)

Lora

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OKay, here I go again. Seems like I can't focus on anything these days. I

do have the two week pen. So what you are saying is that I should get an

empty vial and somehow put the excess from all the pens in it till I get a

full dose??? Then wouldn't I need a syringe? Since the pen does not use a

syringe, then what????

Marty, and all, thanks for not making me feel STOOPID!! :)

Although, I probably wouldn't care if you did, cause I feel VERY STOOPID! LOL!

Staying positive and stoopid :)

Lora

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Well.. I dial the dose.. seems to work even when it's at the end.. maybe I'm

doing it wrong?

The good effects of the interferon are wearing off now it seems. I'm

returning to the aches and pains of pre-treatment and I hate that. I'm gonna

ask doc if I can do daily shots if that would help, or she needs to give me

something for pain so I can make the work day. We'll see.

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,

I have a child with DS and my other daughter has type one diabetes. Yep,

the diabetes is something else to deal with. I have tried to start a

" Diabetes Plus " e-group, but it hasn't taken off..there are a couple of gals

there. Maybe you would like to join and help get it going :-)

<A HREF= " diabetesplus " >eGroups : diabetesplus</A>

here's the link. Hope to see you there.

M.

Mom to 15, (type one diabetes) Holly (13, DS) 10.

In a message dated 1/20/01 4:17:02 AM, egroups writes:

<< Hi everyone,

I dont know if i mentioned that (DS age 10) also has Diabetes type 1

which she got a little more than a year ago. Anyway, I love this group so

far and I was wondering if anyone knows about a Diabetes egruop as well. So

far I havent found one.

I was also wondering if anyone has any kids with DS and Diabetes???>>

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In regards to the kids that look totally normal, for a different age

group. I have a daughter that will be 3 in Sept. She is still

essenstially non verbal (3 words) with apraxia, hypotonia, DSI, and

asthma. She is very beautiful but also very small (20 lbs). We are

constantly getting remarks about how pretty she is, then they ask how

old she is. When I reply almost 3 they look like they are about to

faint. I ask them how old she looks to them and they say like 1 1/2

yrs or so. At least this has helped so far in that not many people

comment too much on her not talking or replying to them because they

just don't think she is old enough to respond. Too bad they can't

see her on her computer matching colors, shapes, etc. She makes up

on the computer and working the mouse for what she can't do on the

playground or in speech.

Hannah, mom to LeAnne and (5 in Sept) from Georgia

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