Re: cranial sacral therapy and hyperbaric therapy

[Guest guest]

We had excellent results with HBOT. We had a gluten free/casein free/

low calcium diet in place too for a while beforehand.

We got excellent tone improvement with one son (the other had great tone

already) and the both boys showed excellent improvement in expressive

and receptive language.

I would recommend a hard chamber with 100 % Oxygen.

(although we used a soft chamber)

tgowest wrote:

> Hello! I am wondering if anyone here has used either types of therapy

> with their child and what kid of results you have seen. A friend

> suggested both types of therapy to me to try with my 3-yr old who is

> unofficially diagnosed with apraxia. Her inlaws are practitioners and

> say they have had good success with kids with apraxia.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

We do cranial sacral therapy, and I usually see good things after each

session.....more talking, more clarity, better articulation, etc.....We se a

D.O., and she does a specific type of cranial sacral therapy that's good for our

kids. I have the specific type of therapy written down in " volumes " of notes.

I'll look it up and post it, later. If I forget, you can email me off list and

remind me.

As for HBOT, the DAN that I've seen in the past is big in the HBOT field. He

would never suggest HBOT until the toxins are out, so if your son has mercury,

lead and such, those should be dealt with first. His remark about HBOT

was.....there's no use in doing the therapy to have tons of toxins floating

around. You may want to get the UPPA to see what your child's toxic load is,

first.....I'd personally be a bit more leary of the HBOT until that

time.....this is just what I've been told. I've heard great things about

HBOT,though!!!!! The man that owns the local HBOT clinic where I live.....his

daughter was in my class and she has CP (severe) from birth trauma. HBOT has

done absolute wonders for her!!

I can't say enough good things about cranial sacral therapy, though. It's great

for balancing both sides of the brain/body, getting things " flowing " , so great

for digestive issues, and great for the tortecolis (sp??) issues that some of

our kids have.

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Jul 2008 03:55:19 +0000Subject: [ ] cranial sacral therapy and

hyperbaric therapy

Hello! I am wondering if anyone here has used either types of therapywith their

child and what kid of results you have seen. A friendsuggested both types of

therapy to me to try with my 3-yr old who isunofficially diagnosed with apraxia.

Her inlaws are practitioners andsay they have had good success with kids with

apraxia. Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

We've been doing cranial sacral therapy since this April.  I was a little

unsure at first but thought I'd give it a try.  I'm glad I did!  The first thing

I noticed was he was sleeping better.  Not quite what we were after, but

wow, great side effect .  What we've noticed lately is that

is coming up with more complex language.  He will be 9 next month and

has already made great gains but the cranial therapy seems to be tweeking

things a little further.

I just did it because I didn't want to regret not trying it and I'm really glad

that we went and would recommend it to anyone.

hth

Sandy

[ ] cranial sacral therapy and hyperbaric therapy

Hello! I am wondering if anyone here has used either types of therapy

with their child and what kid of results you have seen. A friend

suggested both types of therapy to me to try with my 3-yr old who is

unofficially diagnosed with apraxia. Her inlaws are practitioners and

say they have had good success with kids with apraxia.

Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

I have heard good things about craniosacral therapy. In fact, if anyone

has had success with a NJ practitioner can you please let me know?

>

> Hello! I am wondering if anyone here has used either types of therapy

> with their child and what kid of results you have seen. A friend

> suggested both types of therapy to me to try with my 3-yr old who is

> unofficially diagnosed with apraxia. Her inlaws are practitioners and

> say they have had good success with kids with apraxia.

>

> Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

My son is almost 4 and we started cranial sacral therapy 6 months ago,

with positive results. My son has speech apraxia and sensory issues.

There are two options you can see physical therapist or doctor

osteopath. We saw a D.O., who is very experienced and comfortable

working with children. The osteopath will tell you if there is a

blockage and whether or not he/she can help your little one.

My son became more relaxed, sensory issues decreased, play skills are

maturing and language is gradually increasing. We used two go once a

week, then every 2 weeks, and now once a month.

Good Luck with your little one.

Olya

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi there,

>

> My son is almost 4 and we started cranial sacral therapy 6 months ago,

> with positive results. My son has speech apraxia and sensory issues.

> There are two options you can see physical therapist or doctor

> osteopath. We saw a D.O., who is very experienced and comfortable

> working with children. The osteopath will tell you if there is a

> blockage and whether or not he/she can help your little one.

>

> My son became more relaxed, sensory issues decreased, play skills are

> maturing and language is gradually increasing. We used two go once a

> week, then every 2 weeks, and now once a month.

>

> Good Luck with your little one.

> Olya

>

Thank you everyone for your positive responses. And you have been

extremely helpful Olya, as I didn't know where to start. The friend

whose inlaws do this thereapy live in Florida, so it is not possible

for us to go through them unless they are visiting and of course I

haven't asked her yet what profession they are in! My son sounds very

similiar to your son as well. Hope it continues to go well!

[Guest guest]

I don't read this site very often anymore and just happened to look today. I

have written a couple of times about cranial sacral therapy and we love it. We

started using it about 1 1/2 years ago. My first son went through very quickly

(10 weekly sessions) and along with huge articulation and reflex integration

changes, he even stopped toe walking the day after one session. He had been

diagnosed with anything from mild apraxia to high functioning autism. He is

typically developing now at 5.

My younger son had dysphagia, asthma and has mild apraxia. We started with

cranial sacral therapy 1 1/2 years ago with SLOW progress. We started going to

a D.O. for allergy elimination with tapping/homeopathy (Dr. Cheryl at

Osteomed2.com Cleveland, Ohio) and she also did cranial manipulations on him

which brought huge changes. He used to fall and hit his head many X/day and

great improvements after. She even worked in his mouth. With him, we have

combined cranial manipulations (4 times) and Cranial Sacral Therapy by two

therapist and finally, his cranial system feels great to all. We could have

saved a lot of money if we had done this combo in the first place! The first

therapist can't believe him. She says his system is the most miraculous change

she has ever seen because when she first saw him he had no movement in his head.

She thought he was in a still point. Don't give up on it because when their

cranial sacral system is working well,

everything goes easier.

I would always use a therapist from Upledger.com, call and they can help find a

suitable provider near you. Also, find a person well trained in sensory

integration. With our first we did daily INTENSIVE sensory integration with an

OT and SLP and PT. Lots of upper body strength building for the core, arms and

neck. The dysphagia went away w/in 1 month with sensory integration and we just

started a very intensive program with my 3 1/2 year old a couple of weeks ago.

Once those tissue restrictions are gone, it frees up the muscles to move/get

stronger and allows the cranial sacral fluid to move freely so motor planning

can happen. My friend who does it with her CP son and I feel that before the

system is working and without sensory integration work, therapy is like beating

your head against the wall. It moves so much faster with the other things in

place.

Also, the allergy elimination stuff worked great for us. We are even able get a

dog now and he can have milk and eggs without an asthma attack.

The other thing I can't say enough about is Brain Gym - especially cross-crawls.

It helps get the body/brain ready for sensory integration. Carla Hanaford

writes great things about this and other good things.

p.s. we also love the fish oils. haven't tried the vitamin E.

[Guest guest]

Over the years hands down cranial sacral therapy has bigger cheers as

a group. We (personally) didn't try the hyperbaric therapy but did try the

cranial sacral and my boys LOVED it (they still talk about it) We

did notice changes as you'll see below in the archives.

I have below information about us trying an " oxygen bar " which was the extent of

our " hyperbaric therapy " so don't believe that counts! As always as well I was

fearful of the risks of

hyperbaric therapy and stuck in general to therapies that were

benign. Here's some of the risks of hyperbaric therapy

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/med/hyper-eng.php#po

Recently we don't talk as much about cranial sacral therapy -but this

is one of the methods that appears to be a good alternative to

compliment traditional therapy and fish oils..(and now with vitamin E)

To the one person that said to me something about my remark that both

my boys and most here over the years even before the vitamin E all

that was needed in addition to therapy was the few drops of fish oils

to get them to the mainstream

" Let those who say it can't be done, get out of the way of those who

are already doing it "

Chinese Proverb

Archives on the two alternative therapies

Re: cranial sacal

Hi and all!

Being that we live so close to the Upledger Institute and they have

called me I can't believe I haven't taken Tanner and Dakota to

cranial sacral therapy there yet. I plan to. Between boy scouts,

lacrosse, soccer and of course homework there isn't much time left

over. And I guess the main reason -they both are doing so well

already because of all we did in the past. (including cranial sacral

therapy!)

Speaking of past -here is an archived message on cranial sacral

therapy. Will update you all when we visit the Upledger Institute.

I know they would be interested in research on our population. Talk

to you guys from Florida about it at one of the next Late Talker

Network meetings that Kimmie has!

From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...>

Date: Thu May 8, 2003 10:24 am

Subject: Re: cranialsacral therapy

Hi Lillian!

Most people wouldn't know about it -don't feel bad. I've never had

cranial sacral therapy myself -so I don't know what it feels like -

but I do know that both of my boys LOVED it and would fight over who

went first. They would lay on a table with cushions and blankets -

semi dark room -aromatherapy and various types of relaxing music

would play.

Loran would mostly concentrate on the base of their necks -but would

work on their head too -I never once saw him touch Dakota or

Tanner's mouth Jennie. Both of my boys would fall asleep within

minutes of being on the table which was strange, especially with my

ADHD Dakota

-but I hear quite

common. What was really strange to watch -and others who take their

children to this type of therapy see it too -is that both Tanner and

Dakota would move their body in what I called a primitive way -like

leg twitching or hand movements while Loran was working on their

head and while they were asleep -that they didn't appear to be in

control of. When Loran was done (in about an hour) he would cover

them with the blanket and let them sleep until they woke up -which

was typically just minutes after Loran stopped they would wake up

slow and relaxed. While they were waking - Loren and I would speak

about the therapy and what I was seeing at home. Most of the

treatments I saw results right away -but sometimes I saw them the

next day. I took my boys once a week for a few months. I would do

it again -just have to find the time we have our boys in so many

other things now and doing so well!

OK -to break it down...What I was told is that there is a flow of

the cranial spinal fluid around the spine and up to the brain that

sometimes becomes blocked and this relaxing massage therapy helps

the flow of the cranial sacral fluid which helps the body function

better. It's supposed to be excellent therapy for those who were in

a car accident and had head injuries for example.

I noticed improvements in both of my boys -and being that I'm open

to exploring therapies that are not viewed as detrimental -and that

wasn't some outrageously priced therapy that I had to commit to for

a certain amount of sessions or time -I tried it and I liked it. If

you contact a therapist near you http://www.upledger.com/home.htm

I'm sure they will be more than happy to explain. I know I asked

lots of questions (No -me?!) I found the scientific theory behind

cranial sacral therapy fascinating. You will probably want to look

for a cranial sacral therapist that has some background in medical -

and has experience in working with autistic children (good luck

finding one that has worked on apraxic children even though there

are more of them since the awareness is so low!)

Still confused about what it is? -it looks like a head massage -

except it doesn't appear to just relax the body -it appears to

improve function and truly be therapeutic. Hope that helps -I'm not

an expert on this myself -just a believer it's worth exploring.

Here is an archived message of an article on this (and dolphin

therapy!! The Upledger Institute was exploring that together with

cranial sacral therapy -with dolphins you would have auditory

aspects too

-wonder if that aspect of the dolphins has ever been

studied?)

By Evening Gazette, UK

(may have to cut and paste link)

http://icteesside.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0001head/page.cfm?

objectid=12199194 & m\

ethod=full & siteid=50080

Off to the USA, thanks to you Sep 14 2002

By Evening Gazette

Autistic Teesside wonder boy is going to the USA to swim

with dolphins - thanks to YOUR help and the Evening Gazette!

, seven, from Brotton, made news across the world when he

spoke his first words after treatment by top Boro physio Bob Ward.

Bob gave ground- breaking craniosacral massage which brought a

breakthrough release from his world of silence.

His parents, and Francis, were fundraising hard to send their

son to a special £3,000 institute near Spanish Point, on the River

, in Ireland so he could swim with dol phins - and hopefully

improve further.

But now the exciting news is that so much cash has been donated the

threesome, plus 's brother , ten, will flying out to

swim with dolphins in sunny Florida instead! An American airline

has also donated a flight from Miami to Disneyland for a

week's holiday for the whole family.

An emotional said today: " is a real miracle.

" We are so grateful to everyone - especially to the Evening Gazette

for starting all this off in the first place.

" is continuing to improve and is trying to say sentences now

and we are sure we are on the road to even more breakthroughs.

" Bob is still regularly involved with 's treatment, although he

has been very busy recently with Juninho and other injured Boro

players.

" I would encourage anyone else to try craniosacral therapy, although

one thing does not always work for another. "

The family is giving £500 to Kilton Thorpe Special School, Brotton,

where is a pupil and four UK holidays donated by wellwishers

to Redcar's Grenfell Club for children with special needs.

first showed signs of autism when he was six months old and

couldn't speak until February's breakthrough.

His mum and dad were advised to contact a specialist physio by the

Irish clinic and that's when Bob came into the picture.

Craniosacral therapy uses special intensive massage techniques to

repair damaged nerve systems.

And says the results have been " phenomenal. " " He has started

to call us by our proper names - mam, dad and Mat. Previously he

had never uttered a word and it's just miraculous.

" Bob is our knight in shining armour and we can't thank him enough. "

Dad Francis said: " 's doctors are amazed. Previously he could

only make little physical gestures. "

Delighted Bob, 48, of Stockton, said at the time: " I'm amazed how

much he has improved.

" It is so rewarding to get to work with a child like . "

Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy

Hi !

Oxygen therapy has come up a handful of times over the years but

it's never really caught on even when people tried it. I never

explored it for my boys more than going to a local oxygen O2 bar

with them (archive below) because other than Tanner 'thinking' it

helped him talk faster -we really didn't notice any difference in

any of us including Tanner from it. I guess if it worked like fish

oil (even a small surge at a lower dosage) we'd all be paying for

our kids to be sniffing air!

the 2003 O2 bar link I have below in archive-land no longer works

http://www.o2bar.com/

Now you have to go to http://www.o2planet.com/

Below is an archive from 2003 on this:

Sun Jul 6, 2003 2:34 pm

<kiddietalk@...>

(changed the subject) HBOT - Oxygen Bars

Hi Tammy,

Actually you haven't done the rides yet at all have you? Just the

water parks? I found the actual rides to be better myself. I'll

also let everyone here know what you and already know that I

took Tanner and Dakota to the O2 (oxygen therapy) " bar " the other

day and Dakota didn't like it but Tanner loved it so much he wants

to go back!

As I told you both -they only charged us $5 for 7 minutes -but gave

each of us another 7 minutes for free -plus a free healthy smoothie

made of fruit and with add ins of supplements. The place is in

downtown Jensen Beach in Florida if anyone is interested and they

are just wonderful there. Glenn's going to go with us to try it

today -they are having a concert there tonight.

She told me that the hospital's have 100% oxygen and they have 95%

oxygen -but to have 100% they would need a license which they don't

have. (they are also a tanning salon and they carry clothes used

just once on TV shows and jewelry and some makeup and all -looks

like a shop you would find in Greenwich Village in NY)

Do I see a difference with Tanner -or do I feel different? Not while

we were there -but Tanner seems to think he's talking faster -which

is his goal right now as you can tell from his update for the

talking page. We'll try again today -it's certainly cheap enough to

say the least after some of the other things we have tried! I felt

a bit more energy -and a bit light headed -but probably because as

you know I have so much energy to begin with!

As far as the IEPs -I'm going with the McKay Scholarship for this

year with a private heavy academic school for both Dakota and Tanner

that has an SLP there that is a director of speech at Children's

Hospital of Miami -she is awesome and will give Tanner private

therapy one on one a few times a week. She's still with the

hospital too -and she knows Dr. Altman and Dr. Kuchman and all of

them well. If I had Tanner in the public school however -I would

not stand for what your school is doing. I'm trying Tanner

in the heavy academic setting to see how he does -he was one of the

top in the class in public school -but now he'll be going into a

private elite school where the kindergarten kids are " fluent "

readers and writers -Tanner is not fluent yet -but they have a tutor

for him for that as well to get him up to speed. I know you wanted

to leave in the public school for a few reasons -but you just

got the main reason to look into McKay -after all -it's there.

There's got to be something you can do. I'll call you back soon -

just came back from the private school. What did you think of the

class action info I sent out earlier?

=====

[Guest guest]

Cranial and HBOT - very different

As for Cranial - makes sense, did it, would do it again, can really

make biomeds " work " faster. Blows out blockages. In fact, my new

baby's " well visit " is going to truly be a well visit - skip the

toxic shots and instead take him for cranial sacral therapy after he

is born. What a concept.

As for HBOT - " over the years " not really a good way to judge since

HBOT has really become the HOT intervention addressing the new

childhood epidemics in the past 5 years, gaining speed in the past 2

or 3 (per peer reviewed/mainstream published studies). HBOT has been

around for over 50 years and totally underutilized. Good books: Dr.

Harsch and Dr. Neubrander... research it and then scratch your

head??? Why is there not a chamber on every corner? I'll give you

one guess....

I'm a big fan, I've done 80 dives with my now 5 year old - and I

would suggest this to anyone with a child with neulogical issues -

from add to full blown poop smearing autism. I strongly believe HBOT

(hard chamber 100% oxygen 1.5 ata) has cut years of struggle

circulating an inept " system " . It's a committment and it is a

sacrifice but it really boils down to ... new mini van or heal my

sons brain.

btw. comparing an oxygen bar to HBOT is just plain silly.

>

> Over the years hands down cranial sacral therapy has bigger cheers

as

> a group. We (personally) didn't try the hyperbaric therapy but did

try the

> cranial sacral and my boys LOVED it (they still talk about it) We

> did notice changes as you'll see below in the archives.

> I have below information about us trying an " oxygen bar " which was

the extent of our " hyperbaric therapy " so don't believe that counts!

As always as well I was fearful of the risks of

> hyperbaric therapy and stuck in general to therapies that were

> benign. Here's some of the risks of hyperbaric therapy

> http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/med/hyper-eng.php#po

>

> Recently we don't talk as much about cranial sacral therapy -but

this

> is one of the methods that appears to be a good alternative to

> compliment traditional therapy and fish oils..(and now with vitamin

E)

>

> To the one person that said to me something about my remark that

both

> my boys and most here over the years even before the vitamin E all

> that was needed in addition to therapy was the few drops of fish

oils

> to get them to the mainstream

> " Let those who say it can't be done, get out of the way of those who

> are already doing it "

> Chinese Proverb

>

> Archives on the two alternative therapies

>

> Re: cranial sacal

>

>

> Hi and all!

>

> Being that we live so close to the Upledger Institute and they have

> called me I can't believe I haven't taken Tanner and Dakota to

> cranial sacral therapy there yet. I plan to. Between boy scouts,

> lacrosse, soccer and of course homework there isn't much time left

> over. And I guess the main reason -they both are doing so well

> already because of all we did in the past. (including cranial sacral

> therapy!)

>

> Speaking of past -here is an archived message on cranial sacral

> therapy. Will update you all when we visit the Upledger Institute.

> I know they would be interested in research on our population. Talk

> to you guys from Florida about it at one of the next Late Talker

> Network meetings that Kimmie has!

>

> From: " kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...>

> Date: Thu May 8, 2003 10:24 am

> Subject: Re: cranialsacral therapy

>

> Hi Lillian!

>

> Most people wouldn't know about it -don't feel bad. I've never had

> cranial sacral therapy myself -so I don't know what it feels like -

> but I do know that both of my boys LOVED it and would fight over who

> went first. They would lay on a table with cushions and blankets -

> semi dark room -aromatherapy and various types of relaxing music

> would play.

>

> Loran would mostly concentrate on the base of their necks -but would

> work on their head too -I never once saw him touch Dakota or

> Tanner's mouth Jennie. Both of my boys would fall asleep within

> minutes of being on the table which was strange, especially with my

> ADHD Dakota

> -but I hear quite

> common. What was really strange to watch -and others who take their

> children to this type of therapy see it too -is that both Tanner and

> Dakota would move their body in what I called a primitive way -like

> leg twitching or hand movements while Loran was working on their

> head and while they were asleep -that they didn't appear to be in

> control of. When Loran was done (in about an hour) he would cover

> them with the blanket and let them sleep until they woke up -which

> was typically just minutes after Loran stopped they would wake up

> slow and relaxed. While they were waking - Loren and I would speak

> about the therapy and what I was seeing at home. Most of the

> treatments I saw results right away -but sometimes I saw them the

> next day. I took my boys once a week for a few months. I would do

> it again -just have to find the time we have our boys in so many

> other things now and doing so well!

>

> OK -to break it down...What I was told is that there is a flow of

> the cranial spinal fluid around the spine and up to the brain that

> sometimes becomes blocked and this relaxing massage therapy helps

> the flow of the cranial sacral fluid which helps the body function

> better. It's supposed to be excellent therapy for those who were in

> a car accident and had head injuries for example.

>

> I noticed improvements in both of my boys -and being that I'm open

> to exploring therapies that are not viewed as detrimental -and that

> wasn't some outrageously priced therapy that I had to commit to for

> a certain amount of sessions or time -I tried it and I liked it. If

> you contact a therapist near you http://www.upledger.com/home.htm

> I'm sure they will be more than happy to explain. I know I asked

> lots of questions (No -me?!) I found the scientific theory behind

> cranial sacral therapy fascinating. You will probably want to look

> for a cranial sacral therapist that has some background in medical -

> and has experience in working with autistic children (good luck

> finding one that has worked on apraxic children even though there

> are more of them since the awareness is so low!)

>

> Still confused about what it is? -it looks like a head massage -

> except it doesn't appear to just relax the body -it appears to

> improve function and truly be therapeutic. Hope that helps -I'm not

> an expert on this myself -just a believer it's worth exploring.

>

> Here is an archived message of an article on this (and dolphin

> therapy!! The Upledger Institute was exploring that together with

> cranial sacral therapy -with dolphins you would have auditory

> aspects too

> -wonder if that aspect of the dolphins has ever been

> studied?)

>

> By Evening Gazette, UK

> (may have to cut and paste link)

> http://icteesside.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0001head/page.cfm?

> objectid=12199194 & m\

> ethod=full & siteid=50080

>

> Off to the USA, thanks to you Sep 14 2002

> By Evening Gazette

>

>

> Autistic Teesside wonder boy is going to the USA to

swim

> with dolphins - thanks to YOUR help and the Evening Gazette!

>

> , seven, from Brotton, made news across the world when he

> spoke his first words after treatment by top Boro physio Bob Ward.

>

> Bob gave ground- breaking craniosacral massage which brought

a

> breakthrough release from his world of silence.

>

> His parents, and Francis, were fundraising hard to send their

> son to a special £3,000 institute near Spanish Point, on the River

> , in Ireland so he could swim with dol phins - and hopefully

> improve further.

>

> But now the exciting news is that so much cash has been donated the

> threesome, plus 's brother , ten, will flying out to

> swim with dolphins in sunny Florida instead! An American airline

> has also donated a flight from Miami to Disneyland for a

> week's holiday for the whole family.

>

> An emotional said today: " is a real miracle.

>

> " We are so grateful to everyone - especially to the Evening Gazette

> for starting all this off in the first place.

>

> " is continuing to improve and is trying to say sentences now

> and we are sure we are on the road to even more breakthroughs.

>

> " Bob is still regularly involved with 's treatment, although

he

> has been very busy recently with Juninho and other injured Boro

> players.

>

> " I would encourage anyone else to try craniosacral therapy, although

> one thing does not always work for another. "

>

> The family is giving £500 to Kilton Thorpe Special School, Brotton,

> where is a pupil and four UK holidays donated by wellwishers

> to Redcar's Grenfell Club for children with special needs.

>

> first showed signs of autism when he was six months old and

> couldn't speak until February's breakthrough.

>

> His mum and dad were advised to contact a specialist physio by the

> Irish clinic and that's when Bob came into the picture.

>

> Craniosacral therapy uses special intensive massage techniques to

> repair damaged nerve systems.

>

> And says the results have been " phenomenal. " " He has started

> to call us by our proper names - mam, dad and Mat. Previously he

> had never uttered a word and it's just miraculous.

>

> " Bob is our knight in shining armour and we can't thank him enough. "

>

> Dad Francis said: " 's doctors are amazed. Previously he could

> only make little physical gestures. "

>

> Delighted Bob, 48, of Stockton, said at the time: " I'm amazed how

> much he has improved.

>

> " It is so rewarding to get to work with a child like . "

>

> Re: Hyperbaric oxygen therapy

>

>

> Hi !

>

> Oxygen therapy has come up a handful of times over the years but

> it's never really caught on even when people tried it. I never

> explored it for my boys more than going to a local oxygen O2 bar

> with them (archive below) because other than Tanner 'thinking' it

> helped him talk faster -we really didn't notice any difference in

> any of us including Tanner from it. I guess if it worked like fish

> oil (even a small surge at a lower dosage) we'd all be paying for

> our kids to be sniffing air!

>

> the 2003 O2 bar link I have below in archive-land no longer works

> http://www.o2bar.com/

>

> Now you have to go to http://www.o2planet.com/

>

> Below is an archive from 2003 on this:

>

> Sun Jul 6, 2003 2:34 pm

> <kiddietalk@...>

> (changed the subject) HBOT - Oxygen Bars

> Hi Tammy,

>

> Actually you haven't done the rides yet at all have you? Just the

> water parks? I found the actual rides to be better myself. I'll

> also let everyone here know what you and already know that I

> took Tanner and Dakota to the O2 (oxygen therapy) " bar " the other

> day and Dakota didn't like it but Tanner loved it so much he wants

> to go back!

>

> As I told you both -they only charged us $5 for 7 minutes -but gave

> each of us another 7 minutes for free -plus a free healthy smoothie

> made of fruit and with add ins of supplements. The place is in

> downtown Jensen Beach in Florida if anyone is interested and they

> are just wonderful there. Glenn's going to go with us to try it

> today -they are having a concert there tonight.

>

> She told me that the hospital's have 100% oxygen and they have 95%

> oxygen -but to have 100% they would need a license which they don't

> have. (they are also a tanning salon and they carry clothes used

> just once on TV shows and jewelry and some makeup and all -looks

> like a shop you would find in Greenwich Village in NY)

>

> Do I see a difference with Tanner -or do I feel different? Not while

> we were there -but Tanner seems to think he's talking faster -which

> is his goal right now as you can tell from his update for the

> talking page. We'll try again today -it's certainly cheap enough to

> say the least after some of the other things we have tried! I felt

> a bit more energy -and a bit light headed -but probably because as

> you know I have so much energy to begin with!

>

> As far as the IEPs -I'm going with the McKay Scholarship for this

> year with a private heavy academic school for both Dakota and Tanner

> that has an SLP there that is a director of speech at Children's

> Hospital of Miami -she is awesome and will give Tanner private

> therapy one on one a few times a week. She's still with the

> hospital too -and she knows Dr. Altman and Dr. Kuchman and all of

> them well. If I had Tanner in the public school however -I would

> not stand for what your school is doing. I'm trying Tanner

> in the heavy academic setting to see how he does -he was one of the

> top in the class in public school -but now he'll be going into a

> private elite school where the kindergarten kids are " fluent "

> readers and writers -Tanner is not fluent yet -but they have a tutor

> for him for that as well to get him up to speed. I know you wanted

> to leave in the public school for a few reasons -but you just

> got the main reason to look into McKay -after all -it's there.

>

> There's got to be something you can do. I'll call you back soon -

> just came back from the private school. What did you think of the

> class action info I sent out earlier?

>

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>

[Guest guest]

you probably didn't read my message -I said right up top:

" We (personally) didn't try the hyperbaric therapy but did

try the

> cranial sacral and my boys LOVED it (they still talk about it) We

> did notice changes as you'll see below in the archives.

> I have below information about us trying an " oxygen bar " which was

the extent of our " hyperbaric therapy " so don't believe that counts! "

I also brought up I had no desire to try more than the oxygen bar

based on lack of " WOWS " here over the years as well as the risks

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/med/hyper-eng.php#po

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[Guest guest]

I read it . Just another pile of crap article - IMO, based on

my experience, extensive research and followed by labs. The only

similiarity between hyperbaric oxygen therapy and an oxygen bar is

the word oxygen.

Hyperbaric (under pressure)

Oxygen bar - just boosts the oxygen up a notch - doesn't saturate

tissues because it's not " hyperbaric " or under pressure. Although I

haven't tried it, it is a trendy thing. Saw it on my last trip to

Vegas - a fun little money grab.

Certainly not to be confused with HYPERBARIC OXYGEN THERAPY, which is

an outstanding THERAPY intervention for our kids with neurological

damage. Thus, the real deal.

Harsch - The Oxygen Revolution

Dr. Neubrander -

- neurohbot, adottherapyforautism -

>

> you probably didn't read my message -I said right up top:

>

> " We (personally) didn't try the hyperbaric therapy but did

> try the

> > cranial sacral and my boys LOVED it (they still talk about it) We

> > did notice changes as you'll see below in the archives.

> > I have below information about us trying an " oxygen bar " which was

> the extent of our " hyperbaric therapy " so don't believe that

counts! "

>

> I also brought up I had no desire to try more than the oxygen bar

> based on lack of " WOWS " here over the years as well as the risks

> http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/med/hyper-eng.php#po

>

>

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[Guest guest]

sorry I'm not making it clear so I'll just say it here -in the

past two messages I say that the oxygen bar is the 'closest I've come

to hyperbaric therapy so it doesn't count' and do not consider it a

therapy we have tried and fortunately for us we never had to. It's

kind of like me saying " the closest I've come to traveling around the

world is going to Epcot center " and someone saying to me " Well

there's a HUGE difference " um...I knew that?

Guess my joke with you went over like a lead balloon! )

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