Now takes a stand on Obama

[Guest guest]

I am curious as to why we are using this forum for political views

that many of us might or do disagree with. i think its off topic and

not the place. I thought this was a place for support in regards to

our children with apraxia and related speech and language issues. I

think who I support for president is my business, I can search in

other areas if I like I dont think this is the place! I come here for

comfort and wisdom related to helping my son. To read a post putting

down or where someone is voicing their opinion or posting a groups

opinion..and a group that many of us might disagree with already..isnt

beneficial to me as a parent of a special needs child seeking info on

how to help him deal with or overcome his disorders.

I think it should stick with the topic at hand..learning about speech

disorders

This post, and others similar, is very disappointing to me as a member

of this group

Krissy

>

> I HAVE HEARD FROM MANY MEMBERS OF LDA OF AMERICA THROUGHT THE

COUNTRY - THEY

> ARE FURIOUS AT THE WAY PALIN HAS USED HER CHILD WITH DOWN SYNDROME AS A

> " TROPHY " - PASSING THAT POOR CHILD AROUND FROM ONE TO ANOTHER - PLUS

,MCCAIN

> DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AUTISM AND DOWN - AND WHY

DID PALIN

> CUT FUNDING FOR DISABILITIES IN HER OWN STATE, BUT NOW IS ALL FOR

IT? FOR

> THE SAME REASON SHE WANTED ONLY ABSTINENCE TAUGHT IN SEX ED CLASSES?

>

> FYI, The National Organization for Women has endorsed the Obamba-Biden

> ticket for just the reasons listed below. They usually do not

endorse, but

> in this case believed it was absolutely necessary to take a stand.

if you

> agree, please pass this on.

>

> Subject: Women and Palin

>

> Friends,

> We are writing to you because of the fury and dread we have felt

since the

> announcement of Palin as the Vice-Presidential candidate for the

> Republican Party. We believe that this terrible decision has

surpassed mere

> partisanship, and that it is a dangerous farce on the part of a

pandering

> and rudderless Presidential candidate that has a real possibility of

> becoming fact.

>

> Perhaps like us, as American women, you share the fear of what Ms.

Palin and

> her professed beliefs and proven record could lead to for ourselves

and for

> our present or future daughters. To date, she is against sex education,

> birth control, the pro-choice platform, environmental protection,

> alternative energy development, freedom of speech, gun control, the

> separation of church and state,and polar bears. To say nothing of her

> complete lack of real preparation to become the second (and possibly

first)

> most powerful person on the planet.

>

> We want to clarify that we are not against Palin as a woman, a

mother,

> or, for that matter, a parent of a pregnant teenager, but solely as

a rash,

> incompetent, and altogether devastating choice for Vice President. Ms.

> Palin's political views are in every way a slap in the face to the

> accomplishments that our mothers and grandmothers and

great-grandmothers so

> fiercely fought for, and from which we've so demonstrably benefited.

>

> First and foremost, Ms. Palin does not represent us. She does not

> demonstrate or uphold our interests as American women. It is

presumed that

> the inclusion of a woman on the Republican ticket could win over women

> voters. We want to disagree, publicly.

>

> If you agree that Palin is an irresponsible, even dangerous, choice

for VP,

> please consider participating in this drive. Gentlemen, send this to

the

> women you know and care for. I know it's tough to understand the way

this

> choice is impacting women, but I have never seen so many women so

outraged,

> angry and distraught in my entire life. We'd like our voices heard.

[Guest guest]

That is just ridiculous nonsense... one day you will know the real

truth!

What about Obama in support of partial birth abortions, where the baby

is delivered feet first and the head is left inside the mother,

something is injected iniside baby's base of skull to kill it and then

cut open so the brain is sucked out. There is never a purpose for this

to protect the mother's live, they could just deliver the child alive

without harming the mother.

And why would he vote against support for the babies who were born

alive during an abortion proceedure. A nurse in Illinois was fired

because she made it known that babies were being found dead in a closet

wrapped in soiled blankets, this was in a hospital. All the senators

voted for protection for this babies born alive except Obama.. he was

the only one out of nearly 90 others to vote against protection for

these littles ones.

The media wants change so so bad they close their eyes to the really

important matters, that's what I think. The people aren't asking the

right questions b/c they don't want to know the truth.

[Guest guest]

I have heard enough politcal talk for the next four years, lets quit. J

[Guest guest]

I agree.

I've gotten enough flyers & what not in the mail to re build a rain forest.

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 2:59 PM, <jennyjudy@...> wrote:

> I have heard enough politcal talk for the next four years, lets quit. J

>

>

[Guest guest]

then join the political process yourself and see what you can do to change

it.

LiisaAnn@...

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That is just ridiculous nonsense... one day you will know the real

truth!

What about Obama in support of partial birth abortions, where the baby

is delivered feet first and the head is left inside the mother,

something is injected iniside baby's base of skull to kill it and then

cut open so the brain is sucked out. There is never a purpose for this

to protect the mother's live, they could just deliver the child alive

without harming the mother.

And why would he vote against support for the babies who were born

alive during an abortion proceedure. A nurse in Illinois was fired

because she made it known that babies were being found dead in a closet

wrapped in soiled blankets, this was in a hospital. All the senators

voted for protection for this babies born alive except Obama.. he was

the only one out of nearly 90 others to vote against protection for

these littles ones.

The media wants change so so bad they close their eyes to the really

important matters, that's what I think. The people aren't asking the

right questions b/c they don't want to know the truth.

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[Guest guest]

Wow, well this one felt really off topic, but since I actually worked on

this issue years ago, I feel a need to add a clarifying comment. I actually

worked for a year against the ban on D and X abortions (partial birth they

are called) I represented women with severe fetal anomalies, the vast

majority where in fact incompatible with survival - in simpler terms, their

babies were going to die once they were born, and going on with the

pregnancy was threatening their health in most of the cases as well. The

women ranged from the extremely religious (one fundamentalist too) to not

religious at all, but they had all weeped many tears over their situation,

and many had funerals afterwards because they did in fact feel that they

lost a child. From what I learned, this procedure was usually used in cases

like these, quite serious and sad cases. The brouhaha this procedure has

generated has nothing to do with what actually happens when it is used. It

is just a proxy for the broader abortion battle, and it's a shame that good

medicine is being held hostage to it.

Over all though, given how strongly emotions are running in this election we

may want to stay away from electoral politics on the site.

[Guest guest]

Thank goodness there is just one evening left and then maybe we won't have

to hear about these type things on this message board. I don't like reading

stuff like that it makes me feel bad for everyone, mom, baby, etc. Please just

quit with bringing up this stuff here. Jen

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[Guest guest]

on the health issue I have found that employers will make it possible to get

our children insured without insuring ourselves. This has actually worked

against us. Josh will always be on a waiver because of his diabetes, autism,

apraxia and our company Archer s Midland has already made it possible to

purchase insurance for kids only. We will only be reimbursed half of insurance

costs because we are also on the policy. Our insurance is 300 a month. We

are lucky they pay for half of it. I hope those of ou who are eligible are on

the HIPP program which reimburses us for our insurance costs. If a separate

policy is not offered for the kids they will pay for all of the costs usually.

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[Guest guest]

You know-- I am hesitating to say this, and yet my spirit is crying out and

I must speak up

Jen-- you say that you don't like reading " stuff like that, it makes me feel

bad for everyone, mom, baby etc "

Well, I wish that MORE AMERICANS would feel bad for this situation-- and

make the Sanctity of Life a priority in their lives-- rather than the stupid 99%

of those Americans polled that said that THEIR FINANCES were the most

important issue

How extremely sad is it that the American people care MORE about the

almighty dollar in their pockets than they do the protection of an unborn

child!?

Shame on all who think that way-- truly--

I pray that more people will start feeling badly about the abortion and

protection of life issue-- so we can take this country back to the cornerstone

of

MORALITY to be what it should be-- LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of

Happiness! (without that LIFE, how can one attain liberty or happiness?????)

Our

morals shouldn't lay in our pockets and in money--but in LIFE

ok-- shutting up now. I'm obviously not as gracious as McCain, because

I will NEVER back a President such as Obama. Pray for him-- yes-- but back

him or support him, no

Becky

In a message dated 11/4/2008 12:33:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jennyjudy@... writes:

Thank goodness there is just one evening left and then maybe we won't have

to hear about these type things on this message board. I don't like reading

stuff like that it makes me feel bad for everyone, mom, baby, etc. Please

just

quit with bringing up this stuff here. Jen

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