Re: Walford, Protein, CR Weight, Exercise, Alcohol, & Bone Health

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Dean M. " <bordercollie@...>

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Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:59 AM

Subject: [ ] Walford, Protein, CR Weight, Exercise, Alcohol,

& Bone Health

> Excess protein, according to the osteo.org website National Institutes of

> Health to The National Osteoporosis Foundation, can cause EXCESS calcium to

> be reabsorbed out of your bones and into your urine.

> See: http://www.osteo.org/R708i.html

>

> http://www.osteo.org is a good website to learn more about bone health and

> disease prevention.

Hi Dean,

With respect, there site are great for folks which don't have bodies running a

energy deficit.

We CRONing folks need to understand that high cortisol and low insulin is a

deadly combination which creates a cascade

of hormones which place the body in a catabolic state and that upping our

exercise, calcium & Vit D will not necessarily

help to maintain bone density.

I believe Dr. Watford's diet recommendations are the way to go as the larger

amount of carbs (both low & mid GI) will

help to keep insulin active and thus help to reduce cortisol.

Also realize that the longer you exercise the more you elevate cortisol. I

recommend exercising no more than 30

minutes.

Greg

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Greg,

I don't know what's happening to my bones, but I've restricted

my exercise periods to about 32 minutes since your earlier post,

and I've avoided the feeling of strain that I develop when I get caught

up in going longer, harder....the longer I go, the less sense I have!

Also, it's easier to start when I know I'm going to stop in half

an hour.

thanks,

Ed S. My cortisol levels

may also thank you. Already following high carb diet. Have

been. Lost 50 pounds (regained 20 while "refining" my diet)

on high carb. Felt fine 'til I tried to make my diet better.

Greg wrote:

----- Original Message -----

From: "Dean M." <bordercollie@...>

" " < >

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 2:59 AM

Subject: [ ] Walford, Protein, CR Weight, Exercise,

Alcohol, & Bone Health

> Excess protein, according to the osteo.org website National Institutes

of

> Health to The National Osteoporosis Foundation, can cause EXCESS

calcium to

> be reabsorbed out of your bones and into your urine.

> See: http://www.osteo.org/R708i.html

>

> http://www.osteo.org is a

good website to learn more about bone health and

> disease prevention.

Hi Dean,

With respect, there site are great for folks which don't have bodies

running a energy deficit.

We CRONing folks need to understand that high cortisol and low insulin

is a deadly combination which creates a cascade

of hormones which place the body in a catabolic state and that

upping our exercise, calcium & Vit D will not necessarily

help to maintain bone density.

I believe Dr. Watford's diet recommendations are the way to go as

the larger amount of carbs (both low & mid GI) will

help to keep insulin active and thus help to reduce cortisol.

Also realize that the longer you exercise the more you elevate cortisol.

I recommend exercising no more than 30

minutes.

Greg

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----- Original Message -----

From: <sully@...>

< >

Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 1:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Walford, Protein, CR Weight, Exercise,

Alcohol, & Bone Health

> Greg,

> I don't know what's happening to my bones, but

> I've restricted my exercise periods to about 32

> minutes since your earlier post, and I've

> avoided the feeling of strain that I develop when

> I get caught up in going longer, harder....the

> longer I go, the less sense I have! Also,

> it's easier to start when I know I'm going to

> stop in half an hour.

Hi Sully,

Yup..... Go too long and you become a " Hard Gainer " where high cortisol and low

insulin team up to eat away your

muscles.

Most folks don't realize that insulin is a bi-phasic hormone which is anabolic /

tissue building at higher levels and

catabolic / tissue breakdown at lower levels.

While I'm not a fan of the " Zone " diet, Dr. Sears is correct when he suggests

you want to keep insulin within a range or

zone (not too high or too low).

Greg