Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 It could just be that he is 2 - but it could be a sensory thing. An overactive fight/flight/fright response that causes him to be fearful of things that won't hurt him. My son has loved going to those types of parks, but it would take him an hour to finally get wet. His response is less over the top these days, so I'm hoping this summer will be more fun for him. > > my son is 2 year old and now having the OT and SLP training. I recently found out he loves > playing with water and swimming. but once the water bursts out from the ground or falls > down wildly like in Lego Land water park, he would be so scared and refused to get wet. Is > there anything wrong? I have not got a chance to talk to my OT yet. > > Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 thank you. but could you please tell me how did you get your son wet? just be persistent and keep him with water? but my son will give us very clear clue that he wants to go. if we do not listen, he will go himself or cry. thanks. --- <kwatsoneei@...> wrote: > It could just be that he is 2 - but it could be a > sensory thing. An > overactive fight/flight/fright response that causes > him to be fearful > of things that won't hurt him. My son has loved > going to those types > of parks, but it would take him an hour to finally > get wet. His > response is less over the top these days, so I'm > hoping this summer > will be more fun for him. > > > > > > my son is 2 year old and now having the OT and SLP > training. I > recently found out he loves > > playing with water and swimming. but once the > water bursts out from > the ground or falls > > down wildly like in Lego Land water park, he would > be so scared and > refused to get wet. Is > > there anything wrong? I have not got a chance to > talk to my OT yet. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Sometimes two year olds are afraid of things for reasons we'll probably never know. My sister used to be afraid of the toilet bowl if it got flushed. She did not and does not have sensory issues. It's not unusual for example for two year olds to be afraid of all kinds of things –even showers. I used to babysit a child that was afraid to take showers –can't remember how old she was –but I used to work in the toy industry and it gave me the idea to make a cloudburst or elephant (with a trunk) for the water to come out of something fun instead- so less scary for the kids. What you are talking about is even larger than a shower –so probably even scarier to your little guy. One of my friend's daughters was deathly afraid of the ocean. We all were on vacation together in St and this was before I had kids but who was around 3 at the time and I were very close. I carried her as close as I could to the water and made up fun stories – but anytime a wave crashed she screamed in panic. It took days to get anywhere near the water –but by the end of the week I did get to go into the ocean- she overcame. had a reason to fear water –when she was 2 she fell into the lake in back of her house holding her blankie. Her dad said that he saw her eyes open (under water) and she never let go of that blankie and he within seconds pulled her right out –but that was why she was terrified of water. Doesn't have to be that dramatic –perhaps water got up his nose at one time –again who knows why two year olds get scared of things at times. Yes you can check with your OT- and it could be sensory –but there would be more than just the one sign. So either sensory integration dysfunction is common in many kids…or being afraid of things is a normal thing many parents deal with. And perhaps if you are going to read a book to your child while he takes a bath as one suggested below –you can try the book Giraffe Who Was Afraid of Heights http://www.amazon.com/Giraffe-Who-Was-Afraid-Heights/dp/0976882302 long link but read it online here http://books.google.com/books?id=vv4CKkgvGYgC & dq=giraffe+who+was+afraid+of+heigh\ ts & pg=PP1 & ots=Ji3nrKfx-- & sig=7j6YxGJHV0jfBgXEpKMqFkQDi7c & hl=en & prev=http://www.g\ oogle.com/search%3Fsourceid%3Dnavclient%26ie%3DUTF-8%26rlz%3D1T4ADBS_enUS237US23\ 8%26q%3DGiraffe%2BWho%2BWas%2BAfraid%2Bof%2BHeights%2B & sa=X & oi=print & ct=title & ca\ d=one-book-with-thumbnail Below are a few links for the many parents that deal with fear of warer – and then an excellent article on this by Dr. Ames " Children's Fears " : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 13-month-old is afraid of bathtub shower head I made a huge mistake. My currious son seemed to want to know about the shower looming overhead while he took a bath. On the well intentioned advise of my brother, I introduced my 13 month old to the shower. With the nozzle down low - at his level but directed away from him - I turned on the shower while my little guy was taking a bath. What a HUGE mistake. The water was warm but not hot, so I know it wasn't the temperature. Panic struck, he backed himself to the farthest corner of the tub. So I turned off the shower and replaced it to it's normal spot. He just wanted OUT! 'IT' was still up there. I even tried to move the shower head to outside the tub, but there's still something UP there. And 'IT' is still around somewhere. Now everytime he takes a bath (our only tub in the house) he'll get into the tub, but eventually looks up. Then the panic starts again. My once bath loving child is now begging to get out. Hoping to eleviate his fear of the shower monster, two days ago I tried taking a shower while holding my son. No luck. Now 'IT' was REALLY close and just too scary. We've bathed together and that seems to work for HIM. But not for me. It's inconventient and darn cold. I'm just too tall to sit in the tub comfortably. I'm wondering if anyone has had a similar problem. What did you do to reasure your child? Any suggestions? Thank you. My son was similarly frightened by the shower head. What seemed to have the most positive impact was the outdoor shower at swimming pools. For some reason (other kids do it? looked like fun? not naked?), these showers were not nearly as scary to him and were soon downright fun. Home baths were immediately easier. Good luck! anon My daughter went through the same thing a year ago, at age 2 1/2. To get her back in the tub, I sat with her on my lap far away from the tub, while my husband operated the shower. We made it very clear to her that it could not go on while she was in the tub unless someone pulled up on the lever. After a few demonstrations she was willing to get into the tub, but she still talked about the shower for several months. And she still will not take a shower, although she has recently become interested in watching me take a shower, so she may be coming around. Good luck! I could have posted your message when my son was that age, and in fact, I think I probably did. It was the same scenario, except in our case he pulled the shower lever on himself while the tub was running, and was rewarded with an unexpected drenching. He's never been a kid who liked getting his head wet (hairwashing is still something he has to steel himself for) so this was a terrible insult. We tried everything that I'm sure will be suggested in response to your post: fun bath toys, music in the bathroom, getting in the tub with him, playing in the bath with no water in it, letting him hold the shower nozzle, etc. None was a magic bullet. It took months of patience to get him comfortable in the tub again, and I remember how sad I was because bathtime had always been one of his favorite activities, and mine too. It is again now, so there is hope. Here are the things that I think were the most helpful: - getting the spray nozzle out of the tub. Ours is one that can be hand-held if you lift it off its holder, and we always let it dangle outside the tub during bath time so he didn't look up at it and freak. - bathing with him -- which I always liked anyway - persistence. For a while we followed his lead and didn't force the issue, giving baths just once or twice a week and going weeks without a hair wash. Didn't work -- it just gave him more opportunity to cultivate his bath phobia. What ended up working was doing the opposite. We insisted on nightly baths, even though they were accompanied by a lot of screaming and crying at first. I kept them quick, tried to make them fun, talked about how he felt before and afterwards ...that I knew it was scary for him but that he had to get clean and he was going to be fine. I can't remember now how long it took before he just got used to the bath again, and stopped worrying, but it happened. We did have one relapse when I got lax about putting the spray nozzle out of the tub and he pulled the shower on again, but it just took a few days to get him comfortable again. He still doesn't like the shower, but he'll happily play in the tub for an hour or more, with or without me in it. nelly Maybe if you and your son could regularly ''visit'' someone while they were taking a shower. Your son could then see that the shower was not scary to the showeree while still getting to keep a safe distance. My daughter never had the shower-head aversion, but I remember my little brother having it, big screaming fits, and the rest of the family just made a big deal of getting to take a shower (talking about it at the dinner table, discussing how nice it felt when we got out, using the special ''shower toys'' etc.) until his curiosity was up. The ''big kid'' thing was encouraging, too, since he had two older siblings. He was about two at the time. Good luck! Mercedes Perhaps try showing your child that he can play with the fun shower hose? Stand outside the tub and Spray it around with him and be silly. My daughter is scared of the shower over her head but loves playing with hose (even spraying it over her own head) if it is the context of play. If that doesn't work, maybe hang something friendly like a toy on the nozzle? Maybe when he looks up and sees a toy he won't be so scared? more shower to you...... Here is an idea you might try that worked for my daughter when she was little. We had the showerhead ''talk'' to her when she was in the tub. Mr. Showerhead would talk to her (in my voice down an octive) about her day, if she had remembered to wash behind her ears, if she liked the color blue, etc. She came to look forward to bathtime so that she could talk to Mr Showerhead. Good luck! http://parents.berkeley.edu/advice/toddler/bathing.html#13 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " Some toddlers become afraid of the bath. If this happens, take your toddler's fears seriously, as they are very real to her. To help overcome a fear of the bath you can try: • taking a bath with your toddler • letting her sit in the bath without water in it • getting her to leave the bathroom before you take the plug out, as some toddlers are afraid of getting sucked down the plug hole • having a shower with her • letting her sit in the baby bath in the big tub (if she still fits). " http://raisingchildren.net.au/articles/bathing_your_toddler.html/context/353 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ • " First, introduce your child to some new bath toys. This can make things interesting for him. • Watch your child bathing or cleaning his or her favorite toy items. This is surely going to be a major positive turn. • You can buy or make some washcloth puppets for your kid • Never let your child see the water go in or drain out of the tub for this can trigger his phobia of the shower • Do not create a fixed bathing time for your kid. Bathe your child at different hours of the day and try to make the event more playful and interesting. • You can also take a bath in your kid's presence and ask himher to help you rinse and pour water over your head • Arrange for some special activities like watching video, reading some book or playing. The child becomes impatient and tries to hurry up with his bathing and cleaning process to get involved in other activities. " http://www.phobia-fear-release.com/phobia-of-the-shower.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ " What if my child is afraid of water? Please let us know if your child has a fear of the water and the possible reasons for that fear. We have seasoned instructors that work with fearful children. This is also all the more reason to take lessons. If the fear is not addressed it may stay with a child through adulthood. " http://www.siltonswim.com/faq.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Children's Fears By Louise Bates Ames Gesell Institute of Human Development New Haven, Conn. 06511 is afraid of water - the ocean, lakes, even swimming pools. So what do people do? " Throw him in and make him swim, " says Dad. " Give him time, " says Mom. Jake is terrified of dogs. Again, what do parents do? " No son of mine can get away with that kind of babyish behavior, " says Dad. " But he's just a little boy, " Mom says. " He'll get over it. " Mandy has an equally discomforting fear: she is mortally afraid of trucks. Not just the sight of trucks, but even the sound of a truck going by frightens her. " Nonsense! " says Dad. " Let's be patient, " says Mother. Of course it is not always Dad who says, " Force them to face the thing they fear. " Likewise, it is not always Mother who says, " Give them time. " But whatever the sex of the parent, director, or teacher in question, there are definitely two points of view about fear. One advises, " Force children to face the things they fear. " The other urges us to respect any and all fear, giving time and a great deal of support to help the child get over his fear. Fear of water is one of the easiest to overcome. A good safe rule is: Don't throw the child into the wading pool! Most children are fascinated by water tables and water play. If some special child is not, your best bet is to let him play in sand or beside the water table, or let him play with a very small pail of water. Little by little (often sooner than you might expect) tiny ventures will be followed by braver and braver approaches. Most do eventually overcome this fear. Fear of Animals Getting to feel comfortable with center pets may take longer. Some who are frightened by big rabbits will accept a tiny hamster. With others, you may need to start with a toy furry pet or even a picture or a story about pets. Television often helps. It is in most cases fairly easy to talk about the dog in a TV show. This pet is removed, not real, and cannot possibly be harmful. Fear of Trucks Fire engines and trucks, which are indeed a part of most everyday living, may truly terrify a preschooler. Approach this fear with extreme caution. There are some preschoolers who can do no more than stand on the steps or even at a window, holding a caregiver's hand as a truck goes by the building. Soon, most can endure a closer approach. Whatever it is that the individual child may fear, whether these fears make sense to you or not, the recipe is the same. Respect the fear and take things very slowly. Go back as far as you may need to from the feared object. Then work up to a reasonably comfortable acceptance. No fear, no matter how senseless and unreasonable it may seem to you, is senseless and unreasonable to the child who fears. Over-withdrawal Then Over-approach A seemingly odd phenomenon, seldom mentioned in the literature, is one first described by Dr. Frances Ilg of our staff. Through years of clinical practice, she observed that some children (once they have apparently overcome an initial fear) briefly go through a period of overapproach. It is as if the thing they had once feared suddenly exhibits a strong fascination for them. They seem almost forced to approach it. Such a period of over-approach is usually short-lived, but while it does last it should be respected, at least as far as safety permits. Frightened or Just Shy? Three-year-old had been at the child care center for a month and, except when absolutely forced to participate, had barely communicated with any other child. He barely responded to the adults in charge. In fact, there had been no spontaneous contact with anyone or anything. Certainly no self-initiated block play, dressup play, imaginative doll or truck play had been part of his actions. Was something really wrong with ? Was he frightened or terrified of the whole situation? Not necessarily. may merely have been a very slow starter, a shy boy rather than a frightened one. Real terror, real fear of new people and/or new situations, as a rule, can be quite easily recognized. Very shy preschoolers, those who take a long time to feel comfortable in a new situation, can also be quite easily recognized if we are willing to accept the fact that their shyness is " real. " There are many quite normal boys and girls who are new to centers and take weeks before they can participate freely in anything but the most simple and necessary routines. Such children participate, at first, not by playing physically or verbally - and certainly not cooperatively. They participate by watching. More is going on inside them than one may realize. They are not necessarily unhappy in their non-cooperative observing. Given time, nearly all will eventually take part in normal activities. But, they should not be pushed. Nor must they be made to feel that there is anything wrong or different in their slow, quiet, somewhat solitary reaction to a situation which may be rather overwhelming for them. Not every preschooler is socially inclined. Socialization takes a certain amount of learning. Clearly, the basic message is direct and simple: respect every child's fears. Never make fun of or belittle them. Do not force any child to approach the thing he fears. Give him time - plenty of time. Appreciate the fact that acceptance, when it does come, may be very indirect. Fear has its use in most instances. It protects us from danger. Young children sometimes carry their fearful responses to what the adult may consider extreme. They may be afraid of things that do not seem dangerous to adults. Even then, caregivers should respect their fears. They are real and meaningful to the child. Louise Bates Ames, Ph.D., is the cofounder and president of The Gesell Institute of Human Development. She is a psychologist and coauthor of over 25 books. http:// www.bhsaz.com/pdfs/cf.pdf ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 He would skirt around the outside of the water for a while, then he began to get braver. When you are in that shooting water environment for a while you are bound to get inadvertently squirted whether you wanted to get wet or not. Once he got a little wet unintentionally, he would give in and play full force in the water. I just let him find his own way with it, even when he was running to me to have his face wiped down with a towel everytime he got a drop on him. It also doesn't hurt to be dressed to get in there with him! Me being his number-one playmate, it encouraged him, too. > > > > > > my son is 2 year old and now having the OT and SLP > > training. I > > recently found out he loves > > > playing with water and swimming. but once the > > water bursts out from > > the ground or falls > > > down wildly like in Lego Land water park, he would > > be so scared and > > refused to get wet. Is > > > there anything wrong? I have not got a chance to > > talk to my OT yet. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Why does he have to stay? Some kids don't like water...and then they do. > > > > > > my son is 2 year old and now having the OT and SLP > > training. I > > recently found out he loves > > > playing with water and swimming. but once the > > water bursts out from > > the ground or falls > > > down wildly like in Lego Land water park, he would > > be so scared and > > refused to get wet. Is > > > there anything wrong? I have not got a chance to > > talk to my OT yet. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Oh goodness, I just caught the other part of your question. No, I wouldn't make him stay if he clearly wanted to leave. My son never acted like he wanted to leave - he just took his time getting into the water. > > > > > > my son is 2 year old and now having the OT and SLP > > training. I > > recently found out he loves > > > playing with water and swimming. but once the > > water bursts out from > > the ground or falls > > > down wildly like in Lego Land water park, he would > > be so scared and > > refused to get wet. Is > > > there anything wrong? I have not got a chance to > > talk to my OT yet. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 my son is the same as katies. He LOVES the water park but it takes us a good hour before he gets comfortable enough to start playing. We went to Great Wolf Lodge last year and spent the first hour just walking around the water park with him. He was clearly anxious about the whole thing. We didn't pressure him in any way, just let him feel his way around. But, after that adjustment period, we couldn't get him out!! We ended up spending about 8 hours in there. I looked like a prune. With , any new activity is the same thing. Wait an hour and then he's fine. He's already asking for the water park in the summer! Sandy [ ] Re: water playing problem Why does he have to stay? Some kids don't like water...and then they do. > > > > > > my son is 2 year old and now having the OT and SLP > > training. I > > recently found out he loves > > > playing with water and swimming. but once the > > water bursts out from > > the ground or falls > > > down wildly like in Lego Land water park, he would > > be so scared and > > refused to get wet. Is > > > there anything wrong? I have not got a chance to > > talk to my OT yet. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ ____________ __ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile. / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 My advice to you is not to force him to do anything that will upset him, I mean it is not a life threatening situation... don't break his spirit, if for some reason he is having anxiety about water, it is OK and let him know that you are there for him, he will change, I am sure ...but give him time and the space he needs in some issues!!! If the child feels safe and supported he will develop more courage to do stuff!!! Because he will know that you understand and won't force him!!! Otherwise he will not trust you in other things!! You know what I mean... I have gone through changes in anxieties from my sons, and eventually they change when they are ready... Love, Gabby. :0) P.S. Pick your battles!!! --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 thank you for all the good advice. I guess my son's problem is not a sensory issue. thanks. --- sandy lehmann <mommie2chris@...> wrote: > my son is the same as katies. & #65533;He LOVES the water > park but it > takes us a good hour before he gets comfortable > enough to start > playing. > We went to Great Wolf Lodge last year and spent the > first hour > just walking around the water park with him. He was > clearly anxious > about the whole thing. & #65533;We didn't pressure him in > any way, just let > him feel his way around. But, after that adjustment > period, we couldn't > get him out!! We ended up spending about 8 hours in > there. I looked > like a prune. > With , any new activity is the same > thing. & #65533;Wait an hour > and then he's fine. > He's already asking for the water park in the > summer! > Sandy > > > [ ] Re: water playing > problem > > > Why does he have to stay? Some kids don't like > water...and then they > do. > > > > > > > > > > my son is 2 year old and now having the OT and > SLP > > > training. I > > > recently found out he loves > > > > playing with water and swimming. but once the > > > water bursts out from > > > the ground or falls > > > > down wildly like in Lego Land water park, he > would > > > be so scared and > > > refused to get wet. Is > > > > there anything wrong? I have not got a chance > to > > > talk to my OT yet. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ > _________ _ > ____________ __ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile. / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR > 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of > Flickr! > > http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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