vit e

[Guest guest]

Hey Jules,

I read something about what you're talking about in a recent issue of Time

Magazine. It's the issue that has the women on the cover. The article looks at

different expensive face creams and debunks them. It explains what some of the

ingredients do or don't do.

HTH

Irma

jvjv2@...

>>Hey Pat...I'm not Tamara, and I can't find the link, but I do know that

Vitamin E (specifically alpha tocopherol) undergoes hydrolysis at high pH, which

to me would indicate it's not exactly a goer for soap.

I also seem to recall reading that it's unstable when exposed to heat, and

since gelling soap can reach anywhere from 180 - 200 degrees Farenheit,

depending on conditions, I'd suspect that might also be an indicator for

instability in soap...

I wish I could find the resource...I searched and searched, and all I found was

a copy of an FDA paper that mentioned the hydrolysis...couldn't find

verification of the heat instability...>>

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Terri

I haven't used it at all yet,either. I did buy some Vitamin E Oil, but it's

been sitting

there. I never knew quite how much you should be adding. I think I'll let it

sit in

the cupboard longer. You're right....until something solid comes up proofwise

which

way is correct, we're better off not using it.

Re: Vit E

This is where I got confused as well...I've heard both sides of the Vit E

story and both are about 50/50..no one side is stronger than the other. I

myself am going to stay away from adding it to anything at this point until

more proof comes out in support of either side.

Terri

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This is where I got confused as well...I've heard both sides of the Vit E

story and both are about 50/50..no one side is stronger than the other. I

myself am going to stay away from adding it to anything at this point until

more proof comes out in support of either side.

Terri

[Guest guest]

I must be missing something, I am at Rainbow Meadows, and looking at Vit.

E. I dont see where it says its not good in anything....

Shaye

The Soap Shack

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Re: Re: Vit E

Terri

I haven't used it at all yet,either. I did buy some Vitamin E Oil, but it's

been sitting

there. I never knew quite how much you should be adding. I think I'll let

it sit in

the cupboard longer. You're right....until something solid comes up

proofwise which

way is correct, we're better off not using it.

Re: Vit E

This is where I got confused as well...I've heard both sides of the Vit E

story and both are about 50/50..no one side is stronger than the other. I

myself am going to stay away from adding it to anything at this point

until

more proof comes out in support of either side.

Terri

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[Guest guest]

I did the same thing....heard all these folks were using it in soap and

toiletries ...went and got some then heard about not using it so here it

sits.

Terri...who has called all her family today and said " Eat more Pringles, I

need the cans for soap molds!! "

[Guest guest]

Hmm, I hadnt heard a thing, Im also on several lists.

Re: Re: Vit E

I'm talking about the negitive talk on all the soap lists I'm on. Some folks

swear by it...others say not to use it.

Terri

Re: Vit E

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> This is where I got confused as well...I've heard both sides of the Vit

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> story and both are about 50/50..no one side is stronger than the other.

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> myself am going to stay away from adding it to anything at this point

> until

> more proof comes out in support of either side.

> Terri

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[Guest guest]

I'm talking about the negitive talk on all the soap lists I'm on. Some folks

swear by it...others say not to use it.

Terri

Re: Vit E

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> This is where I got confused as well...I've heard both sides of the Vit

E

> story and both are about 50/50..no one side is stronger than the other.

I

> myself am going to stay away from adding it to anything at this point

> until

> more proof comes out in support of either side.

> Terri

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> eGroups Sponsor

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[Guest guest]

you know what? I think we're on 2 different topics here sort of...I'm

refering to the skin benifits from adding vit e to soaps, balms and lotions.

Not the antioxident part for helping to keep oils from going rancid.

Glad your daughter is on the road to getting better. My son is on the tail

end of a cold that we've all gone through...he's got the feather in the

throat feeling now and coughing like crazy.

Terri

[Guest guest]

You should be able to get bottles of liquid Vit. E at Rite Aid in the lotion

section. Why pay for capsules? Although you could melt them down for the

gelatin I guess...

[Guest guest]

The problem with vitamin E in bottles is it usually has other stuff added:

soybean oil, preservatives, etc. Since you need to make the aloe gel/vitamin E

mixture up fresh each time, the capsules work well.

> You should be able to get bottles of liquid Vit. E at Rite Aid in the

> lotion

> section. Why pay for capsules? Although you could melt them down for the

> gelatin I guess...

[Guest guest]

Rowendrew@... wrote:

>You should be able to get bottles of liquid Vit. E at Rite Aid in the

>lotion section. Why pay for capsules?

because with the capsules you know for sure how strong it is

~risa

[Guest guest]

Ok, I will use the capsules

Re: Vit E

The problem with vitamin E in bottles is it usually has other stuff added:

soybean oil, preservatives, etc. Since you need to make the aloe gel/vitamin

E

mixture up fresh each time, the capsules work well.

> You should be able to get bottles of liquid Vit. E at Rite Aid in the

> lotion

> section. Why pay for capsules? Although you could melt them down for the

> gelatin I guess...

[Guest guest]

When using Vit. E as a " preservative " just how much should be used in

relationship to the oils in any given recipe?

And how long could I expect the products shelf life, lip balm for instance,

to be when it also includes honey, which is in my understanding to also act

as a preservative?

Is Vit. E also a good enough preservative for an exfoliating scrub that

contains oils?

Thanks in advance

Becky

Holly Berry Hill

[Guest guest]

> From: " Becky " <rbsander@... wrote.

> When using Vit. E as a " preservative " just how much should be used in

> relationship to the oils in any given recipe?

Becky, Vitamin E is not a preservative, it is a antioxidant. Preservatives

prevent microbial growth and are an important ingredient in many

cosmetics/toiletries. Antioxidants prevent your oils and butters from going

rancid, and by doing so gives them a longer shelf life. I don't use pure

Vitamin E. I use mixed Tocopherol which has Vitamin E as one of the

Tocopherols. This is usually used at 1% but it won't hurt anything if you

used it at a higher rate.

> And how long could I expect the products shelf life, lip balm for

instance,

> to be when it also includes honey, which is in my understanding to also

act

> as a preservative?

This would depend on how old your oils are and how much air has got to your

oils. It also depends on how you store your oils before using them. They

will last longer if stored in a cool dry place like a basement. It also

depends on how long your supplier has had them in storage and under what

conditions.

> Is Vit. E also a good enough preservative for an exfoliating scrub that

> contains oils?

No. You need a preservative as well as the Vitamin E.

Pat.

Peace, Joy, Serenity.

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[Guest guest]

Hello, everyone

I have a question regarding antioxidants vs preservatives- I'm sorry

if it's a bit simplistic but I'm very new.

I purchased 16 oz. grapeseed oil, and added some Vit. E upon its

arrival this week. I was planning on making adding some E.O.s to make

it a scented massage oil, and giving ~4 oz. each to some close

friends. Does this still need a preservative, or is the antioxidant

enough? The recipe didn't say.

Also: does sweet almond oil or jojoba also need an antioxidant to

prevent rancidity? I was using sweet almond oil for my massage oil,

although I blended it more on an as-needed basis and just stored it

in a cool dark pantry. I just purchased my first amount of jojoba oil

and haven't made anything with it yet.

I'd appreciate any help before I make the massage oil, and thanks in

advance.

Joanne

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I purchased a bottle of Vit E which says it is 20,000 I.U., and it is in

wheat germ oil as a base. The problem is it STINKS! I used a small amount

in an after-shower moisturizer, to which I don't add any scent, and could

definitely smell the Vit E. Does anyone know of a brand or kind that

doesn't smell, or do all of them have an odor?

Thanks,

Cherry

[Guest guest]

I got mine form Marilyn at Paw Made and have not had any trouble with it.

Good price too.

Chris

www.womenintouch.com/page711896.htm

RE: Re: Vit E

> I purchased a bottle of Vit E which says it is 20,000 I.U., and it is in

> wheat germ oil as a base. The problem is it STINKS! I used a small

amount

> in an after-shower moisturizer, to which I don't add any scent, and could

> definitely smell the Vit E. Does anyone know of a brand or kind that

> doesn't smell, or do all of them have an odor?

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> Thanks,

> Cherry

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[Guest guest]

The one I buy is at the Health food stores also. The one bottle I have is

just 20,000 IU per bottle in a Soy Oil Base. Called Liquid Vit. E-400.

Absolutely no scent to it. Another one I have is listed as Pure Vit. E and

is very very thick in a bottle. Also no scent to it.

Cate

[Guest guest]

Hi Cherry, I get my Vitamin E from Puritan " s Pride, their vitamin book and

right now you buy 1 and get 2 free. It does'nt smell and contains 30,000 I.U.

per 2.5 oz. I've been happy with it and feel the price is right. It's 9.25

for 2.5 oz and you get 2 more with that for the time being. Hope this helps.

Esther

[Guest guest]

None of the Vit. E I buy ever smells! I think it is the wheat germ oil that

must stink!

Cate

You may be right. I wonder if there are different types of wheat germ oil,

though, because I have an oil mixture which says it contains wheat germ oil,

and there is no odor. The Vit E I bought was from a health food store and

can be taken as a dietary supplement. It is dark amber in color and smells

very medicinal. Do you buy the kind that comes in capsules? I just thought

this would be easier. Maybe I could use it in CP soap. Anyone know if the

odor would still come through?

Thanks,

Cherry

[Guest guest]

Cate: I put a little bit of wheat germ oil in some lotion bars and thank

goodness I made a small batch - they smelled like wheat germ oil no matter

how much I tried to cover the smell and I really didn't use much either.

Oh well, I will use it myself as I didn't think it offensive, just sort of

strange. Carol A2

[Guest guest]

I buy vitamin E at Wal-Mart or K-mart in a little bottle. The Vit E at

Wal-Mart has almond oil or something mixed with it, but no odor. The Vit E

at K-Mart has nothing mixed in it. I like it better than having to puncture

the little capsules.

Kay & Stoli

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[Guest guest]

Maybe Vit E " will help maintain a beautiful perineum " or should that be

complexion? Sadly it seems to me to be another misguided sign of our

commercial times!

[Guest guest]

HAsn't vitamin E also have something to do with the fertility of rats?

Obviously it is a public health issue that they are not fertile enough, so

it is a cunning ruse to boost their breeding rates.

Pat

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>Subject: RE: VIT E

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>Maybe Vit E " will help maintain a beautiful perineum " or should that be

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/28/2005 12:26:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mcpherson.bg@... writes:

I know Dr. D says that we O's shouldn't take Vitamin E, but do some of you

anyway? I stopped taking it for a year or two, but now I am trying it again,

mostly trying to reduce menopausal symptoms.

Vit E thins your already thin blood. I would just see how it made me feel.

Eat lots of green leafy veggies with Vit K to help offset.