Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 I was just reading a book and it was giving tips on how to get the fish oil into your children, who refused to take it. It said you could rub the fish oil on the bottom of their feet and follow up with some lotion. Is this true and has anyone tried this? I have struggled and struggled trying to hide it, make him swallow it, etc, and have had no luck. This would be an awesome alternative! Please let me know if there is any validity to this. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Hi everybody, new to the group, I've been lurking for a few weeks. My son Ben 3.5 yrs old is taking the vitamin E and the fish oil. I mix it in a little bit if sherbet or vanilla ice cream works like a charm! **************Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 It could be because skin absorbs too!!! That is why there are transdermal creams... you can mix it with some coconut virgin oil too...then put on some sock to avoid gating it on the sheets!!! http://www.springboard4health.com/store/more_hpl_cod-cream.html Love, Gabby. :0) http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/ > > I was just reading a book and it was giving tips on how to get the fish oil into your children, who refused to take it. It said you could rub the fish oil on the bottom of their feet and follow up with some lotion. Is this true and has anyone tried this? I have struggled and struggled trying to hide it, make him swallow it, etc, and have had no luck. This would be an awesome alternative! > > Please let me know if there is any validity to this. > > Thanks! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 We do this with goot which has an oil base. > > I was just reading a book and it was giving tips on how to get the fish oil into your children, who refused to take it. It said you could rub the fish oil on the bottom of their feet and follow up with some lotion. Is this true and has anyone tried this? I have struggled and struggled trying to hide it, make him swallow it, etc, and have had no luck. This would be an awesome alternative! > > Please let me know if there is any validity to this. > > Thanks! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Just make sure the co ois unrefined. > > > > I was just reading a book and it was giving tips on how to get the fish oil into your children, who refused to take it. It said you could rub the fish oil on the bottom of their feet and follow up with some lotion. Is this true and has anyone tried this? I have struggled and struggled trying to hide it, make him swallow it, etc, and have had no luck. This would be an awesome alternative! > > > > Please let me know if there is any validity to this. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 Awesome smell not awesome alternative!!! I can't even image the smell of someone's bedroom and house if they tried to put fish oil on their feet. And Gabby you are on the right track with covering the feet with socks -but unless they are plastic socks the oil would go right through the fabric and I'm sure to the sheets, comforters, mattress and anything that person walked on -rugs for example. I'm sure there would be some sort of percutaneous transmission benefit but I'd bet it wouldn't be enough for a child that really needed the essential fatty acids. To me the risks of the smell would far outweigh the benefits. BTW if you get even a drop of fish oil on fabric you have to wash it at least 3 times to remove the smell so be very careful with fish oil that it doesn't get on fabric (and that includes socks!) You probably want to use lemon each time too. I once heard a story about a woman who's husband was leaving her for another woman so for revenge she took teeny bits of fish and sewed them into the hems of some of the curtains in the house before she left. Her ex and his new woman could not figure out where the horrible smell was coming from -eventually leading them to sell the house...but that they took the curtains with them when they sold the house. I found a variation of this story with shrimp on snopes and don't remember even where I heard it from. http://www.snopes.com/love/revenge/shrimp.asp Moral of this story to me is that you don't want to end up in this situation and people don't want to even come over to your house because you have " little bits of fish " all over the fabric in every area of your home because you were silly enough to stick fish oil on your child's feet!!!! (and even sillier to think you could keep that from getting on everything else by covering them with fabric socks!!) In the archives long ago there was a parent who said that no matter what they could not get their child to consume any of the fish oil and another parent said that if their child had some sort of disease and the doctor prescribed medicine that the child needed to take that parent would find a way to get that medication into that child. Here's a list of what I did with Tanner long before we had ProEFA which has less of a fishy smell and taste -and even longer before we taught Tanner how to swallow capsules (a very good thing!!!) I say use a drop mixed in to something they love to start -no matter how acute your child's senses are just use a small enough amount and they'll never know. Or if they eat tuna fish sandwiches mix a drop or two in that. Use paper towels and make sure your child uses them and not the back of their hand (because after they wipe their mouth they'll wipe off the back of their hand on your couch or their pants etc.) Be creative -but keep in mind you're dealing with an oil that has a smell that gets worse over time and don't treat it like Jergens!! http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efatips.html ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 My granddaughter who is 2 1/2 will eat the Nordic Natural Pro EFA (it is lemon flavor) capsule with no problem..She just chews it, actually she likes it, and you have to keep the jar away from her because one time she reached up on the counter and open it and took another..so she ended up with 2 that day, so now they are kept up high. The capsule is chewy, so maybe she thinks it is a gummy type thing, We have poked a hole it and squeezed it in her mouth also, like if we were ready to eat and didn't want to wait for her to chew it all up..she just opens her mouth for it and we squirt it right in no problem. I can smell the lemon so I guess that hides the fishy taste. She has been on it for almost 3 months and it is helping, when do we start giving her 2 pills and what about the Vit E I have been reading on here about. So far she just gets one pill a day but. She is in speech 1/2 hour a week, hasn't been diagnosed with apraxia yet, but is way behind in speech for her age. Most of the words she says are clear, but she still isn't talking in sentences. Just got her to say " bye mommy " so that is her only sentence so far. I love that little girl and sometimes you just feel helpless. So if you have any tips on if we should or when to add more Pro EFA and Vit E please let me know. thanks [ ] Re: Fish Oil on your feet? Awesome smell not awesome alternative!!! I can't even image the smell of someone's bedroom and house if they tried to put fish oil on their feet. And Gabby you are on the right track with covering the feet with socks -but unless they are plastic socks the oil would go right through the fabric and I'm sure to the sheets, comforters, mattress and anything that person walked on -rugs for example. I'm sure there would be some sort of percutaneous transmission benefit but I'd bet it wouldn't be enough for a child that really needed the essential fatty acids. To me the risks of the smell would far outweigh the benefits. BTW if you get even a drop of fish oil on fabric you have to wash it at least 3 times to remove the smell so be very careful with fish oil that it doesn't get on fabric (and that includes socks!) You probably want to use lemon each time too. I once heard a story about a woman who's husband was leaving her for another woman so for revenge she took teeny bits of fish and sewed them into the hems of some of the curtains in the house before she left. Her ex and his new woman could not figure out where the horrible smell was coming from -eventually leading them to sell the house...but that they took the curtains with them when they sold the house. I found a variation of this story with shrimp on snopes and don't remember even where I heard it from. http://www.snopes.com/love/revenge/shrimp.asp Moral of this story to me is that you don't want to end up in this situation and people don't want to even come over to your house because you have " little bits of fish " all over the fabric in every area of your home because you were silly enough to stick fish oil on your child's feet!!!! (and even sillier to think you could keep that from getting on everything else by covering them with fabric socks!!) In the archives long ago there was a parent who said that no matter what they could not get their child to consume any of the fish oil and another parent said that if their child had some sort of disease and the doctor prescribed medicine that the child needed to take that parent would find a way to get that medication into that child. Here's a list of what I did with Tanner long before we had ProEFA which has less of a fishy smell and taste -and even longer before we taught Tanner how to swallow capsules (a very good thing!!!) I say use a drop mixed in to something they love to start -no matter how acute your child's senses are just use a small enough amount and they'll never know. Or if they eat tuna fish sandwiches mix a drop or two in that. Use paper towels and make sure your child uses them and not the back of their hand (because after they wipe their mouth they'll wipe off the back of their hand on your couch or their pants etc.) Be creative -but keep in mind you're dealing with an oil that has a smell that gets worse over time and don't treat it like Jergens!! http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efatips.html ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2008 Report Share Posted August 3, 2008 , I couldn't have said it better! I love what fish oil does, it's one of the healthiest things in existence, beyond apraxia--it's good for all people of all ages, especially those with chronic degenerative inflammatory disease. But the smell of anything it touches is just awful--much worse then the fish oil itself!! That's because in contact with air it oxidates, looses some of it's potency and becomes rancid very quickly. So the efficacy of this fish-oiled-feet method is very questionable even beyond the stickiness and mess. Plus it just never comes out, the brown stains just get worse over time and contaminate other things in the washer as the hot water gets more to come out and stain other things. I have stains on my ceiling from 4 years ago when I was giving it to my daughter right after birth with a dental syringe. I was nervous at first and tired with a newborn and accidentally discharged the full load up into the ceiling. Let me tell you I've cleaned those spots over and over with everything under the sun, and the stains inevitably come back after a few days --in contact with oxygen again. And all the baby clothes she wore during that period when she was still spitting up are stained brown and have stained other clothes in the wash brown. This thing is so persistent, I've never really seen it come off any cloth type material and I think plastic retains it for ever too as the syringes I was using back then smelled so bad after a while I had to discard them no matter what I washed them with. Cannot possibly imagine purposely putting that on anybody, much less feet since socks shoes and perspiration would make it even worse--the shoes would need to be thrown out every few days just to be able to stay near the kid. I suppose if there really was no other way given how important it is for her development and speech I would do anything to give it to hear, but hiding it in food or better yet, shooting it under the tongue with the dentist syringe like we used to do it in her infancy may still work. One word of caution is that it really is highly perishable, so mixing it in other things and letting it sit in light, heat or contact with unknown substances such as food may compromise its quality and absorption and this can happen very fast. Even in our digestive tract it oxidates so it is recommended that we take it with a fatty meal, and other antioxidants for best absorption. That's why the vitamin E is added to preserve it in the gel caps and some but not as much in the liquid. Somehow the kids just need to learn to take it and I don't really have advice on that since my daughter loves them and I get her to eat her chicken just to get the fish oil afterward, but with patience and practice and ingenuity somehow the parents must figure out a way to deliver this quickly and efficiently before it oxidates in contact with the air. Good luck! -Elena--mom to Ziana-severely apraxic, but otherwise a happy, healthy child and preogressing steadily now that appropriate speech therapy/diet/supplements have been implemented From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Fish Oil on your feet? Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:11 AM Awesome smell not awesome alternative!!! I can't even image the smell of someone's bedroom and house if they tried to put fish oil on their feet. And Gabby you are on the right track with covering the feet with socks -but unless they are plastic socks the oil would go right through the fabric and I'm sure to the sheets, comforters, mattress and anything that person walked on -rugs for example. I'm sure there would be some sort of percutaneous transmission benefit but I'd bet it wouldn't be enough for a child that really needed the essential fatty acids. To me the risks of the smell would far outweigh the benefits. BTW if you get even a drop of fish oil on fabric you have to wash it at least 3 times to remove the smell so be very careful with fish oil that it doesn't get on fabric (and that includes socks!) You probably want to use lemon each time too. I once heard a story about a woman who's husband was leaving her for another woman so for revenge she took teeny bits of fish and sewed them into the hems of some of the curtains in the house before she left. Her ex and his new woman could not figure out where the horrible smell was coming from -eventually leading them to sell the house...but that they took the curtains with them when they sold the house. I found a variation of this story with shrimp on snopes and don't remember even where I heard it from. http://www.snopes.com/love/revenge/shrimp.asp Moral of this story to me is that you don't want to end up in this situation and people don't want to even come over to your house because you have " little bits of fish " all over the fabric in every area of your home because you were silly enough to stick fish oil on your child's feet!!!! (and even sillier to think you could keep that from getting on everything else by covering them with fabric socks!!) In the archives long ago there was a parent who said that no matter what they could not get their child to consume any of the fish oil and another parent said that if their child had some sort of disease and the doctor prescribed medicine that the child needed to take that parent would find a way to get that medication into that child. Here's a list of what I did with Tanner long before we had ProEFA which has less of a fishy smell and taste -and even longer before we taught Tanner how to swallow capsules (a very good thing!!!) I say use a drop mixed in to something they love to start -no matter how acute your child's senses are just use a small enough amount and they'll never know. Or if they eat tuna fish sandwiches mix a drop or two in that. Use paper towels and make sure your child uses them and not the back of their hand (because after they wipe their mouth they'll wipe off the back of their hand on your couch or their pants etc.) Be creative -but keep in mind you're dealing with an oil that has a smell that gets worse over time and don't treat it like Jergens!! http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efatips.html ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 It is worth a shot though if you have a malabsorber. It will get things to where they need to be faster. Potency issues could be addressed via amount done. Were I to do it, and I might for me as my fish oil tolerance is difficult, I'd do it on feet at night with socks and wash the sheets, etc. I don't like the spray idea. It has other ingredients I m not crazy about. Since you cannot rub on the gelcap I guess an e cram would be usedul and may rid the smell. > From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: Fish Oil on your feet? > > Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:11 AM > > Awesome smell not awesome alternative!!! > > I can't even image the smell of someone's bedroom and house if they > tried to put fish oil on their feet. And Gabby you are on the right > track with covering the feet with socks -but unless they are plastic > socks the oil would go right through the fabric and I'm sure to the > sheets, comforters, mattress and anything that person walked on -rugs > for example. I'm sure there would be some sort of percutaneous > transmission benefit but I'd bet it wouldn't be enough for a child > that really needed the essential fatty acids. To me the risks of the > smell would far outweigh the benefits. BTW if you get even a drop of > fish oil on fabric you have to wash it at least 3 times to remove the > smell so be very careful with fish oil that it doesn't get on fabric > (and that includes socks!) You probably want to use lemon each time too. > > I once heard a story about a woman who's husband was leaving her for > another woman so for revenge she took teeny bits of fish and sewed > them into the hems of some of the curtains in the house before she > left. Her ex and his new woman could not figure out where the > horrible smell was coming from -eventually leading them to sell the > house...but that they took the curtains with them when they sold the > house. I found a variation of this story with shrimp on snopes and > don't remember even where I heard it from. > http://www.snopes.com/love/revenge/shrimp.asp Moral of this story to > me is that you don't want to end up in this situation and people > don't want to even come over to your house because you have " little > bits of fish " all over the fabric in every area of your home because > you were silly enough to stick fish oil on your child's feet!!!! > (and even sillier to think you could keep that from getting on > everything else by covering them with fabric socks!!) > > In the archives long ago there was a parent who said that no matter > what they could not get their child to consume any of the fish oil > and another parent said that if their child had some sort of disease > and the doctor prescribed medicine that the child needed to take that > parent would find a way to get that medication into that child. > > Here's a list of what I did with Tanner long before we had ProEFA > which has less of a fishy smell and taste -and even longer before we > taught Tanner how to swallow capsules (a very good thing!!!) I say > use a drop mixed in to something they love to start -no matter how > acute your child's senses are just use a small enough amount and > they'll never know. Or if they eat tuna fish sandwiches mix a drop > or two in that. Use paper towels and make sure your child uses them > and not the back of their hand (because after they wipe their mouth > they'll wipe off the back of their hand on your couch or their pants > etc.) Be creative -but keep in mind you're dealing with an oil that > has a smell that gets worse over time and don't treat it like > Jergens!! > > http://www.cherab.org/information/dietaryeffects/efatips.html > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Liz for sure some things you have to learn for yourself and for you I guess this is one of them. I do hope your lesson isn't too expensive (and gross) Try to keep it to one room without fabric -and if you dare take this to bed put disposable plastic under the sheets you don't care much about -don't use the comforter. There's no proof by the way that putting it on your feet has any known benefit while there's tons on the benefits of ingesting it. It would probably be easier to just move to the beach and swim with the fishies. If you still want to go ahead with this super yuck without any proof it will help idea -may want to buy lemon before even trying -my brother is a captain and in maritime law today and that's what they use to clean fishing boats. It'll help....a bit. ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 Just my 2 cents...we JUST purchased the Nordic Naturals Complete Omega 3-6-9 (They didn't have the ProEFA) today and put it in our 2 year old's chocolate milk. My husband tasted her milk to be sure it wasn't detectable and it wasn't and she drank it right down...When I pierced the capsule, all I smelled was lemon...no fishy smell at all...I even got it on my hands and they are fine... in Ohio From: kiddietalk <kiddietalk (DOT) com> Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] Re: Fish Oil on your feet? @groups. com Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:11 AM Awesome smell not awesome alternative! !! I can't even image the smell of someone's bedroom and house if they tried to put fish oil on their feet. And Gabby you are on the right track with covering the feet with socks -but unless they are plastic socks the oil would go right through the fabric and I'm sure to the sheets, comforters, mattress and anything that person walked on -rugs for example. I'm sure there would be some sort of percutaneous transmission benefit but I'd bet it wouldn't be enough for a child that really needed the essential fatty acids. To me the risks of the smell would far outweigh the benefits. BTW if you get even a drop of fish oil on fabric you have to wash it at least 3 times to remove the smell so be very careful with fish oil that it doesn't get on fabric (and that includes socks!) You probably want to use lemon each time too. I once heard a story about a woman who's husband was leaving her for another woman so for revenge she took teeny bits of fish and sewed them into the hems of some of the curtains in the house before she left. Her ex and his new woman could not figure out where the horrible smell was coming from -eventually leading them to sell the house...but that they took the curtains with them when they sold the house. I found a variation of this story with shrimp on snopes and don't remember even where I heard it from. http://www.snopes. com/love/ revenge/shrimp. asp Moral of this story to me is that you don't want to end up in this situation and people don't want to even come over to your house because you have " little bits of fish " all over the fabric in every area of your home because you were silly enough to stick fish oil on your child's feet!!!! (and even sillier to think you could keep that from getting on everything else by covering them with fabric socks!!) In the archives long ago there was a parent who said that no matter what they could not get their child to consume any of the fish oil and another parent said that if their child had some sort of disease and the doctor prescribed medicine that the child needed to take that parent would find a way to get that medication into that child. Here's a list of what I did with Tanner long before we had ProEFA which has less of a fishy smell and taste -and even longer before we taught Tanner how to swallow capsules (a very good thing!!!) I say use a drop mixed in to something they love to start -no matter how acute your child's senses are just use a small enough amount and they'll never know. Or if they eat tuna fish sandwiches mix a drop or two in that. Use paper towels and make sure your child uses them and not the back of their hand (because after they wipe their mouth they'll wipe off the back of their hand on your couch or their pants etc.) Be creative -but keep in mind you're dealing with an oil that has a smell that gets worse over time and don't treat it like Jergens!! http://www.cherab. org/information/ dietaryeffects/ efatips.html ===== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2008 Report Share Posted August 4, 2008 My son is a malabsorber and he needs the prescription levocarn to help his body be able to use the fish oils. If I get even a speck of fish oil on my son's face and don't wash it off with a disaposable paper towel immediately it will start to become rancid and smell. Ladies I called the Nordic Naturals contact number from their website and was told the lemon flavor is in the gelatin capsule NOT the oil! I too have tasted the oil. When fresh it's not fishy. I rather think it feels like olive oil on my tongue. > > Liz for sure some things you have to learn for yourself and for you I > guess this is one of them. I do hope your lesson isn't too expensive > (and gross) Try to keep it to one room without fabric -and if you > dare take this to bed put disposable plastic under the sheets you > don't care much about -don't use the comforter. There's no proof by > the way that putting it on your feet has any known benefit while > there's tons on the benefits of ingesting it. It would probably be > easier to just move to the beach and swim with the fishies. > > If you still want to go ahead with this super yuck without any proof > it will help idea -may want to buy lemon before even trying -my > brother is a captain and in maritime law today and that's what they > use to clean fishing boats. It'll help....a bit. > > ===== > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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