Re: Vitamin E Roll Call

March 3, 2008

My kids aren't fish oil responders (or minimal responders) but they really

do have improvement with vitamin E!

My 6 yr old son is on 800 IU of alpha and 400 IU gamma. I really didn't

notice much improvement on adding the gamma compared to just the alpha. He

had a huge spurt initially! When he was sick a few weeks ago and refusing

to take the pills for about five days he didn't regress in speech, but his

behavior was awful. He was arguing and whiney. I don't know if it was

because he was sick or because he wasn't taking the E and fish oils. He has

verbal apraxia (resolving!) and severe language issues.

My 18 month old 19lb daughter is taking about 400 IU alpha assuming she gets

it all in. I noticed a spurt about a week after we started her (which was

recent - we were having problems getting it in her.) She hasn't been

diagnosed with apraxia, but when tested at 16 months she had a delay in

speech production of up to one year. Her expressive and receptive language

thankfully is age appropriate! When tested she was mostly hitting the 5 mo

milestones with very little babbling, no imitative ability and lack of

consonants (only /m/ and /y/ and very rarely /d/.) As of two weeks ago she

is now babbling more, still mostly with vowels, but she adds in /b/

occasionally now. She is trying to imitate and has several new words. I

understand her intention due to context, but they all sound the same. " Aaah "

means hot, ball, (her brother - the other one, Tommy, is the same word

she uses for mommy) and ahh-ahh is " nana " or banana. It's a start!

Miche

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:07 AM, emonline2000 <emonline2000@...> wrote:

> There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people using

> Vitamin E, and if so,

> how much are you using?

>

> We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I am not

> seeing much

> improvement from the omegas alone.

>

March 3, 2008

What is the difference between Vitamin E you buy at Target and the other

Vitamin E you guys are talking about. What exactly should I be looking for?

Jen

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March 3, 2008

We stopped using it by accident (left it at my sister's house) and

saw no regressions. We may not be typical users, as we started it

after my son was mostly over his speech issues and just needed some

fine and gross motor improvements. Slight declines in those motor

skills are harder to pick up than speech regressions.

Since we are in a bad stretch of behavior here due to food

infractions, I am going to wait until summer to reintroduce it. I

will be able to observe more then, and also, we will be more active

which gives a better opportunity to see how the running, jumping,

swimming, etc. is going.

I think E is an important antioxidant, separate from apraxia, so I

think some supplementation is probably merited. Just not sure about

high doses, etc.

in NJ

>

> There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people

using Vitamin E, and if so,

> how much are you using?

>

> We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I

am not seeing much

> improvement from the omegas alone.

>

March 3, 2008

My baby and yours could be twins! No response to fish oil, babbling

with no consonants, etc. How are you doing the E? It doesn't come

in a liquid, does it?

in NJ

>

> > There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people

using

> > Vitamin E, and if so,

> > how much are you using?

> >

> > We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I

am not

> > seeing much

> > improvement from the omegas alone.

> >

>

March 3, 2008

ahhhh, maybe I am doing the E wrong too! I am doing it the other way around

(more gamma). I will try what you and Janice are saying. Thanks, Carolyn

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She is a great eater and LOVES the fish oil. I discovered by accident that

she can eat the capsules. She climbed onto the counter and ate her

brother's capsule! She was chewing on them and they popped and spilled all

down her front. So now, like before, I poke a hole in the capsule and

squeeze it into her mouth, but after most is out I give her the entire

capsule and she chews and sucks until she swallows it.

I tried the same with the vit E, but the taste is quite different and she

doesn't like it. I tried masking it in foods for a while and that was hit or

miss because she didn't always finish it. I was putting it in whatever we

were serving. I tried spaghetti (which she loves) but she didn't eat that

day. She rejects it in yogurt, doesn't eat apple sauce so it was hard to

get it in her.

The other day I figured what if I put it in water to dissolve the capsule

some first (the capsule is harder than the fish oil ones and it was hard for

me to cut open anyway. I lost a lot on my fingers! That worked! The water

dissolved the capsule until soft and then right after popping the the fish

oil into her mouth I pop in the vitamin E. If I wait too long she rejects

it, but if I time it right the vit E mixes with the strong tasting fish oil

and she eats them both! Then I have her drink the water it soaked in

because sometimes some leeches out. She loves water so that isn't a problem.

Now that she's taking the entire capsule, I'm just worried that 400 mg might

be too high of a dose for her weight. She's only 19lbs.

Miche

March 3, 2008

I have a liquid E. It's oily but I mix it in with my son's other

supplements and pour a syrup over them and he takes it with no

complaints. I also use an E softgel...I poke a hole in it and squeeze

that into the same mixture so he is getting both alpha and gamma.

Does anyone know the recommended ratio of the alpha E to the gamma

E? 2:1? I'm guessing that getting the formula right will determine

whether or not I see any language emerge. I just started a few days

ago...nothing yet.

> >

> > > There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people

> using

> > > Vitamin E, and if so,

> > > how much are you using?

> > >

> > > We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway,

I

> am not

> > > seeing much

> > > improvement from the omegas alone.

> > >

> >

March 3, 2008

I am REALLY liking this vitamin E...... I see true differences in speech

articulation and maturity levels of behaviour.

We are using 400 iu, 3 times a day (If I can remember)..... sometimes I forget

dosages later in the day....

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

[sPAM][ ] Vitamin E Roll Call

There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people using Vitamin E,

and if so,

how much are you using?

We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I am not

seeing much

improvement from the omegas alone.

March 3, 2008

Janice,

What kind of E are you using?

Janice wrote:

> I am REALLY liking this vitamin E...... I see true differences in speech

articulation and maturity levels of behaviour.

>

> We are using 400 iu, 3 times a day (If I can remember)..... sometimes I forget

dosages later in the day....

>

> Janice

> Mother of Mark, 13

>

> [sPAM][ ] Vitamin E Roll Call

>

> There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people using Vitamin

E, and if so,

> how much are you using?

>

> We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I am not

seeing much

> improvement from the omegas alone.

>

March 3, 2008

There are no " right " doses. What suggested initially is working up

to 800IU alpha and 400 IU gamma. I really don't think the gamma did

anything different with my son. I haven't given my daughter any gamma yet

and I am seeing positive results from just the alpha!

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:16 PM, tommysmommy67 <missy@...> wrote:

> I have a liquid E. It's oily but I mix it in with my son's other

> supplements and pour a syrup over them and he takes it with no

> complaints. I also use an E softgel...I poke a hole in it and squeeze

> that into the same mixture so he is getting both alpha and gamma.

>

March 3, 2008

Below are two archives of what we see with the vitamin E -compliments

the fish oils!

Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:38 pm

" kiddietalk " <kiddietalk@...>

Re: Important message you all want to read...and sh...

Carolyn Tanner's only been on the right E without the wrong E for 2

days and I am very excited! I was on the phone with Dawn from NJ

today and she was reminding me that I was talking about a surge in

Tanner's speech (what I have posted below) but I didn't credit it to

the E...until after I spoke with the other day. Tanner's been

on the

gamma -right E for around 2 weeks.

I can add to the following that tonight when Tanner was sitting next

to me he did NOT ask me to rub his back...which he had been doing for

the past year or so (prior -he hated that, it hurt him if you

tickled him -then he seemed to crave it) It may have been the first

time ever in the past year he didn't ask me to rub his back -not

kidding!

Anyway -seems you are not the only one that missed this -so here is

what else we've seen so far in Tanner from a recent archive:

~~~~~~~~start of archive

Don't feel bad - told me NOT to get the dl alpha vitamin E

and I thought I didn't -so that was what I was using up till today!

That L is so little...

However about 2 weeks ago I added the natural gamma (which contains

the natural alpha e) and I do have an update on Tanner that I didn't

figure out was a breakthrough till I was speaking with

yesterday.

Last week as some of you know we drove to Disney to meet up with

Dawn and her family -and the one day we almost didn't make it

because Tanner had a loose baby tooth that was bothering him. So in

the AM I took him to the dentist who showed me his Xray that showed

it's just a baby tooth that will make it's way out -nothing wrong.

We were around an hour into our trip when Tanner bit into a bagel

and his baby tooth must have been loosened a bit - started to bleed

and he just freaked out starting to cry how much pain he was in. I

called the dentist's office -but they were out to lunch -and just

didn't know what to do because Tanner was beside himself in

pain...so I pulled into a rest stop and called Dawn and left a

message about what was going on and that we were not going to make

it.

Reason this is strange...all the other times Tanner lost a baby

tooth he's the one that just pulls it out -all bloody and all when

it starts to bother him. I even joked with him the last time " Now

don't go pulling out your good teeth or anything " because it

freaked 'me' out that he could just pull out his loose teeth.

The pain that Tanner had from biting in the bagel was horrible...but

normal! Sometimes normal is horrible, like pain -and Tanner didn't

feel it the same way prior. I am so excited about this vitamin E

too. I took Tanner off the synthetic E -and am just giving him

the " 100% natural High Gamma Tocopherol " from Vitamin World in our

mall -and yes that contains the d alph vitamin E too. The one I had

(the only gamma vitamin world carried) is 200 IU of vitamin E alpha

and 200 mg of the gamma. I give Tanner 2 a day right now.

Speech update -Tanner just switched schools this year and I asked

him what he thought of the new one and he said " Mommy I spent three

years at ____ and only one day at ____, it's too soon to know the

difference " Very clear and well thought out sentences -pretty

perfect I'd say. He's doing so well that we'll take even subtle

improvements -but the pain thing is a big one -again I'm very

excited!

and an update as he's been on 4 capsules a day and we still have not

been able to raise that due to him -not us:

-Re: too many capsules

Hi all!

There isn't as much studied about higher amounts of gamma in the E -

only the alpha -and any time I've raised Tanner's alpha so far

without the gamma being raised as much - he starts stuttering which

has been our first sign of regression. Once he stutters it typically

takes a few days to get him back to normal once I put him back on the

same

dosage/formula. Tanner has been on a 1-

1 ratio of alpha to gamma and he did improve each time we raised the

alpha gamma -but now we are at the highest safe level of gamma and

need to raise the alpha -which I'm willing to try (but again first I

want him to take a vitamin K just in case) The last time I tried to

raise the alpha and Tanner regressed Glenn said " Why are you messing

with the formula again?! " Of course I am nervous about another

stuttering regression -but am aware of the dosages and improvements

many are seeing here -so I've talked to Tanner about it. (he said

the other day that we can " talk about it more later " )

I don't believe that Tanner's on the same formula of vitamin E as

many of the kids here as most of the iddie biddies are on higher

alpha. Tina wasn't your son on an alpha gamma mix too? Didn't he

regress on higher alpha too? What do you believe the difference is

this time?

I honestly don't want to lower his fish oil as I don't even believe

he's on that high of a dosage. I used to want to lower the dosage

and see if I could stop it and each time he would regress. I

discussed this with Dr. Martha Herbert one day and she said something

to me that stuck. I no longer try to lower his dosage because she is

so right. She said " Why are you even wanting to stop the fish oils?

They are essential to our bodies but our bodies can not produce them -

we have to consume them, yet they are virtually lacking in our diets

today. I know I feel better when I take them. " And it's not just

speech -I really do believe that the kids on fish oils here overall

are the better students as fish is " brain food "

http://www.wellnessletter.com/html/wl/2001/wlFeatured1001.html ...and

it goes a bit deeper.

Due to the heart disease that runs big time in my family as well as

Glenn's...and even Glenn at just early 40s had a heart attack that

thank goodness he has no heart damage from and has been off all meds

now for well over a year (and I do thank fish oil for that since both

our fathers died young of heart attacks) -I want my boys to stay on

the fish oils forever and they know that -but I do want to just a bit

raise the E -and to be safe I am only going to raise the alpha which

in the past hasn't been that positive. In order to do so however for

safety reasons he has to take the vitamin K which is a teeny little

tiny pill not much bigger than the letter e in teeny.

Update on his new school -out of every school ever this one is

the " best " yet.

=====

March 3, 2008

I think people here use different kinds of E. I haven't noticed differences

with different brands of d-alpha, but you have to make sure it is " natural

d-alpha " not the less expensive dl-alpha.

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 1:44 PM, <jennyjudy@...> wrote:

> What is the difference between Vitamin E you buy at Target and the other

>

> Vitamin E you guys are talking about. What exactly should I be looking

> for? Jen

>

March 3, 2008

Jen,

I used the wrong E for a couple of months and got 'nothing'. After I switched

types of E, I could see a difference in 20 minutes! Note that I used the same

brand but a different mix of E to get a good response for my son. I had to play

around with it and listen to the vast number of moms who emailed me privately

with their success stories of vitamin E. I am definately a convert now!

I have no idea why it works but it is a great " Mark pick me up! " Thus, I see

better attention, organization, focus and articulation in about 20 minutes after

I give it to him. The results seem to be temporary and are not long lasting

(about 4-6 hours) thus he needs a dose after school as well. Because the

results are not long lasting, I worry that we are not getting to the root of the

metabolic issue here but are providing a 'quick fix'..... but I will take it for

now! I take what works!

We are using Natural Factors (out of Canada) 400 iu alpha, 200 mg gamma, 67

delta,beta

With regards to E, the mix seems to matter and is possibly child specific. If

you look at the links section, it will describe the relationship between alpha

to gamma tocopherols that you are looking for. If I go too high with Mark, he

gets a touch of the nosebleeds BUT I started adding vitamin D that has vitamin K

in it to our regime and it seems to do the trick with the nosebleeds. We are

from Northern Canada and I see a marked difference in my son between the summer

and the winter time hence the vitamin D.

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

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What is the difference between Vitamin E you buy at Target and the other

Vitamin E you guys are talking about. What exactly should I be looking for?

Jen

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I know believes that you need both the alpha tocopherol form

of E and also the E gamma together. She suggests buying them

seperately so you know exactly how much you are giving. I know she

uses the Jarrow E Gamma 300 mg but not sure on the tocopherol...a

400IU capsule, but not sure how many. Does anyone know if 2:1 is the

right ratio? The tocopherol needs to be higher that much I do know.

I'm guessing at least double over the E gamma.

What link are you referring to at the Vitamin Shoppe? I'd like to

read it too. Thanks.

, " Janice " <jscott@...>

wrote:

>

> ,

>

> I don't think you can get it in the US.... it is called Natural

Factors. Plus.... I suspect the old hands at vitamin E, such as

, , (Colleen has seen great results) and many, many others

know better sources than I.

>

> I had given up on the E until everyone bombarded me with

emails..... I tried again, with the contents of the link printed out

at the vitamin shop (so that I wouldn't mess up) and guess what....

it really did help!

>

> I initially tried 100% alpha tocopherol which did nothing but when

we went with a 2:1 ratio Alpha tocopheral to Gamma Tocopherol, we got

some action! It is not " save the world, be all end all " for Mark but

from what some of the other moms report with the babies..... it does

WONDERS for the little tykes and language.....

>

> You guys with E responders with little babies, perhaps write your

stories? It is important for the moms..... Write the mistakes

too.... the adjustments you had to make, etc.

>

> I fully admit that I completely did the wrong E and then something

that posted convinced me that I had not given it the correct

chance. Sometimes we need to tweak our dosages and our recipes to

get a response from our children's bodies. They are complex little

guys

>

> Janice

> Mother of Mark, 13

>

> [sPAM][ ] Vitamin E Roll Call

> >

> > There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people

using Vitamin E, and if so,

> > how much are you using?

> >

> > We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway,

I am not seeing much

> > improvement from the omegas alone.

> >

March 3, 2008

" dl " means that it is a synthetic vitamin. Don't buy the " dl "

versions, only the " d " versions. I was at Target here over the

weekend and they only had " dl " so I went to Wegman's and found the

natural " d " form of 400 IU alpha tocopherol. No one around here has

the straight gamma form so I ordered it online.

>

> > What is the difference between Vitamin E you buy at Target and

the other

> >

> > Vitamin E you guys are talking about. What exactly should I be

looking

> > for? Jen

> >

>

March 3, 2008

,

I don't think you can get it in the US.... it is called Natural Factors.

Plus.... I suspect the old hands at vitamin E, such as , , (Colleen

has seen great results) and many, many others know better sources than I.

I had given up on the E until everyone bombarded me with emails..... I tried

again, with the contents of the link printed out at the vitamin shop (so that I

wouldn't mess up) and guess what.... it really did help!

I initially tried 100% alpha tocopherol which did nothing but when we went with

a 2:1 ratio Alpha tocopheral to Gamma Tocopherol, we got some action! It is not

" save the world, be all end all " for Mark but from what some of the other moms

report with the babies..... it does WONDERS for the little tykes and

language.....

You guys with E responders with little babies, perhaps write your stories? It

is important for the moms..... Write the mistakes too.... the adjustments you

had to make, etc.

I fully admit that I completely did the wrong E and then something that

posted convinced me that I had not given it the correct chance. Sometimes we

need to tweak our dosages and our recipes to get a response from our children's

bodies. They are complex little guys

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

[sPAM][ ] Vitamin E Roll Call

>

> There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people using Vitamin

E, and if so,

> how much are you using?

>

> We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I am not

seeing much

> improvement from the omegas alone.

>

March 3, 2008

Hi Janice

I am in Eastern Ontario, Canada. I will look for it the Natural Factors.

My one little guy that has so much speech now still has some hand

issues. I am wondering if the addition of E will help. My nephew too has

hand issues and he is 14 so I will mention it to my sister. He never had

apraxia of speech but had it all over the rest of his body. He has

gotten better but the hand thing has been an issue. His mom put him in

some pottery classes recently so he can start to enjoy doing things with

his hands. She thinks now that he is on the computer a lot he may

actually be getting a bit better. My sister has done all the things to

keep those boys fingers moving. She even made him do berry picking in

the summer She finds he has really steered clear of anything that

involves to much finger work so finding things for him to do has been a

challenge. He has never like therapy so she has always had to be

creative with activities to get the theapy he needs.

He is another one that has responded well to removing milk from his

diet. She did that years ago because he drank so much of it. I know

lots of kids that can't tolerate it.

Including all four of my guys and myself.

Janice wrote:

> ,

>

> I don't think you can get it in the US.... it is called Natural Factors.

Plus.... I suspect the old hands at vitamin E, such as , , (Colleen

has seen great results) and many, many others know better sources than I.

>

> I had given up on the E until everyone bombarded me with emails..... I tried

again, with the contents of the link printed out at the vitamin shop (so that I

wouldn't mess up) and guess what.... it really did help!

>

> I initially tried 100% alpha tocopherol which did nothing but when we went

with a 2:1 ratio Alpha tocopheral to Gamma Tocopherol, we got some action! It

is not " save the world, be all end all " for Mark but from what some of the other

moms report with the babies..... it does WONDERS for the little tykes and

language.....

>

> You guys with E responders with little babies, perhaps write your stories? It

is important for the moms..... Write the mistakes too.... the adjustments you

had to make, etc.

>

> I fully admit that I completely did the wrong E and then something that

posted convinced me that I had not given it the correct chance. Sometimes we

need to tweak our dosages and our recipes to get a response from our children's

bodies. They are complex little guys

>

> Janice

> Mother of Mark, 13

>

> [sPAM][ ] Vitamin E Roll Call

> >

> > There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people using

Vitamin E, and if so,

> > how much are you using?

> >

> > We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I am not

seeing much

> > improvement from the omegas alone.

> >

March 3, 2008

When starting Vitamin E, here are the basics: You want to buy d-alpha

tocopherol (natural vitamin E) not dl-alpha (synthetic vitamin E).

Start with 400iu d-alph. The improvements reminded me of fish oil,

it was around a week when we noticed better articulation. It could

take longer than a week though. You can then up the dose to 800iu d-

alpha. When you get to 800iu, you should add in 300mg capsule of

high gamma tochpherol. The upper limit is 1500iu d-alph.

Some kids like mine can't tolerate the higher doses of d-alph so I

switched him to a capsule that has 200iu d-alpha and 200mg high gamma

from Vitamin Shoppe.

Here are the links that are in the Vitamin E folder that you might

want to read through. Some do say brand matters. has posted

about brand matters when she was trying to find one that was soy

free.

HTH clear up the confusion some might be having,

Tina

/message/50746

's first post about Vitamin E

Getting started post

Vitamin E info

info on upper limit

info about adding vitamin K

/message/72524

Info about vitamin E plasma levels

>

> There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people

using Vitamin E, and if so,

> how much are you using?

>

> We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I

am not seeing much

> improvement from the omegas alone.

>

March 3, 2008

I have found three brands that have a high gamma. One was at the grocery

store pharmacy section and it was incredibly expensive so I went looking

online. I found this:

http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=79195 & catid=1682 & trx=GFI-0-EVGR-4\

9973 & trxp1=10782 & trxp2=79195 & trxp3=1 & trxp4=5 & btrx=BUY-GFI-0-EVGR-49973which

is Nature's Bounty high gamma vitamin E. It has 200 IU d-alpha and

200 IU d-gamma and the capsule isn't excessively large. I was giving my son

two of those and one extra 400 IU d-alpha. Drugstore.com also has free

shipping on orders over $50 (and free shipping with $25 orders now.)

Unfortunately they don't let you order a huge amount of any one product at

one time. To qualify for free shipping I order some other supplies that are

on sale depending on the month. Their prices overall aren't more than what

stores are on most things so it saves me trips to the store for deoderant

and other toiletries!

Around the time I moved I messed up and didn't order soon enough, but I

found some at the Vitamin Shoppe. It's the store's brand and it is called

" High Gamma E-400 IU " It contains 400 IU of d-alpha and 597 IU of d-gamma.

It is one very large pill, slightly shorter than ProEFA and much fatter. My

son can swallow it, but he doesn't like to. He'd rather swallow two of the

other pills that are the same length but much skinnier!

Miche

> Janice wrote:

> > ,

> >

> > I don't think you can get it in the US.... it is called Natural Factors.

> Plus.... I suspect the old hands at vitamin E, such as , ,

> (Colleen has seen great results) and many, many others know better sources

> than I.

>

March 4, 2008

Well you can probably get vitamin E anywhere they sell vitamins, but

the ones at Target, when I checked the ingredients, had the " dl " form

of E which is synthetic. You want to make sure you get the " d " form

which is natural E.

>

> What is the difference between Vitamin E you buy at Target and the

other

> Vitamin E you guys are talking about. What exactly should I be

looking for? Jen

>

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March 4, 2008

The only brand of Vitamin E I could find at our health food store with

a breakdown listed is Bio E Gamma Plex by Solaray. I see it's

available at Vitamin shoppe as well. is Anyone using this brand?

Anyone seen it and opted not to use it? I'm a bit confused because it

appears to have a very high ratio of d-gamma Tocopheral (300 mg)

relative to the D alpha which is listed in two ways- one as 400 IU and

another as 265mg. Then on the vitamin shoppe website the d alpha on

the same bottle (or so it seems) is listed as 400 IU and 70 mg) Any

comments?

>

> There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people using

Vitamin E, and if so,

> how much are you using?

>

> We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I am

not seeing much

> improvement from the omegas alone.

>

March 4, 2008

I have ordered the Vitamin Shoppe brand in the past, and you just

need to make sure you order the one. They have a number of different

combinations. One is called High Gamma Tocopherols, and that's the

one we used to get the gamma. Then we used their 100% Natural d-

alpha 400 IU vitamin E with it. One time, I accidently ordered one

that had mixed tocopherols instead of just the d-alpha. It can be

very confusing!

I usually try to order online to get exactly what I want, and there

is usually something else you need to order to get the price up to

the point of free shipping.

in NJ

> >

> > There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people

using

> Vitamin E, and if so,

> > how much are you using?

> >

> > We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway, I

am

> not seeing much

> > improvement from the omegas alone.

> >

>

March 4, 2008

,

I had looked at that exact product about a year ago and was giving

it to my son for a short time. It has an adult dose of selenium in

it and I couldn't find enough safety information on the net to be

comfortable with it. Some reports said you could get too much

selenium (as an adult), so I switched to the Vitamin World " High

Gamma E Tocopherol " , which has 200 alpha and 200 gamma.

Hope that helps,

Thad

> >

> > There are not a lot of posts on Vitamin E anymore. Are people

using

> Vitamin E, and if so,

> > how much are you using?

> >

> > We are on 2 High Gamma, and I am thinking, at this dose anyway,

I am

> not seeing much

> > improvement from the omegas alone.

> >

>

March 6, 2008

I would buy the E online. It's much easier than running around trying to locate

it.

Just Google it or ask moms here the brand that they prefer. Most good vitamin

sites have all of the ingredients listed with the alpha - gamma breakdown too.

HTH,

Yvette

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