Re: trying to get seperate mmr

[Guest guest]

I've heard people get it ordered from Canada

personally speaking--- I would skip the MMR whether it's separated or not--

just a thought

Becky

In a message dated 7/16/2008 10:04:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

h_hawkinson@... writes:

Can anyone tell me where they may have a seperate MMR vaccine

available. My doctor said he wasn't able to get it but would write me

a prescribition if I could locate it on my own. Does anyone have any

ideas? Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

Try googling Hopewell Pharmacy

>

> Can anyone tell me where they may have a seperate MMR vaccine

> available. My doctor said he wasn't able to get it but would write

me

> a prescribition if I could locate it on my own. Does anyone have any

> ideas? Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

I haven't had the time to do much research on the vaccines yet, but will prior

to my son's birthday.  I did have a quick question though based on the response

to the separate MMR....  Won't the children have trouble getting into school w/o

the required vaccines?

Thanks,

Amy

Re: [ ] trying to get seperate mmr

I've heard people get it ordered from Canada

personally speaking--- I would skip the MMR whether it's separated or not--

just a thought

Becky

In a message dated 7/16/2008 10:04:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

h_hawkinson writes:

Can anyone tell me where they may have a seperate MMR vaccine

available. My doctor said he wasn't able to get it but would write me

a prescribition if I could locate it on my own. Does anyone have any

ideas? Thanks!

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[Guest guest]

Hopewell pharmacy, but there is a shortage of one (I can't remember if

it's measles or mumps). I don't think you can get it anywhere right

now. Go for the one you can get and get the other one when it becomes

available. FYI, if you have a boy, they do not need Rubella. Rubella

is only a risk for pregnant women.

>

> Can anyone tell me where they may have a seperate MMR vaccine

> available. My doctor said he wasn't able to get it but would write

me

> a prescribition if I could locate it on my own. Does anyone have any

> ideas? Thanks!

>

[Guest guest]

Many states allow for personal philosophical exemptions, but not all. We've not

vaccinated and live in CA where this is not an issue because we can take that

personal philosophical exemption and sign a waiver. At least for the time being,

but there are pressures to change the laws all the time. CA is a very liberal

state though and I think there are enough parents who would riot of that

happened so the politicians know to not try to go there.

If anyone doubts why drug companies making and selling vaccines are lobbying so

hard to convince California legislators to pass a precedent-setting law that

would automatically mandate every new vaccine the CDC recommends for " universal

use " by all children, the recent market analysis by Global Industry Analysts

gives the answer: forcing vaccine use is a multi-billion dollar business. The

U.S. is the largest market for human vaccines: vaccine manufacturers will rake

in $6.9B in 2007. Much of the profit is guaranteed because the lobbying

alliance between drug companies, public health officials and pediatricians

that has formed during the past quarter century has worked hard to convince

politicians to mandate the use of more vaccines by US citizens than are used by

any other country in the world.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0616-31.htm

NY/NJ and other are more difficult to get out of vaccinating but not impossible

For the states that do not have this exemption there are religious

exemptions--which are tricky but there are sites on line that helps parents with

that hurdle. Just google vaccine exemptions state regulations, try different key

words you'll get to the sites that offer step by step instructions on how to

deal with the school system. Some parents have actually had to move, but felt it

was well worth it to protect the health of their child.

Just some vaccine info links I had handy:

http://www.mercola.com/2007/feb/15/shocking-documentary-will-convince-you-to-sta\

y-away-from-vaccines-for-good.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2005/feb/23/mercury_lies.htm

http://www.straight.com/article/vaccines-show-sinister-side?#

http://www.doctorvolpe.com/newsletters/index.html

For the pro-vaccine side just go tot he CDC website, and see how their info

stacks up.

Our personal belief is that vaccines are not needed in general , not enough

proof that they really work and too risky for illnesses that are really pretty

harmless, and given our daughter highly susceptible metabolic and genetic

background we are convinced she would be one of those children severely affected

by them. We are so thankful we did not vaccinate. We also make sure she has a

good healthy--no processed foods, no refined sugars diet and more recently GF/CF

and other Fs that are needed in her case based on tests and clinical

assessments, but at any rate, vaccines are not the only way to give your child

immunity against various diseases and a biomedically trained doctor can discuss

these other options with you.

Our daughter is intolerant to gluten/casein and many other foods, presents with

fatty acid and many other malalbsorptions, is already neurologically damaged

since she has speech apraxia, there's just NO WAY I would ever give her any

vaccine, particularly for childhood diseases that are virtually harmless in a

healthy not-malnourished child and have been with us throughout human evolution.

Chicken Pox, the measles, the mumps, are pretty harmless unless you run to an

inexperienced doctor at the first sign of fever and they incorrectly give fever

suppressants or worse misdiagnose and give antibiotics which can all cause harm

in such cases, but for the most part if left to take their course most of the

diseases children are vaccinated against are pretty harmless and just amount to

time away from school or other activities and that's not such a terrible thing

at this age.

In the few cases where they do cause harm, it is rarely fatal and those kids

present with severe immune deficiency or most often their treatment is

mishandled. The body has to be left to fight and suppressing fever means

crippling the immune system, just like giving sugar in any form when a child is

sick, can also cripple it and there are just so many simple basic things that

were common knowledge in the past but have now been replaced by unnecessary

drugs and products that are being continuously marketed to us and medical

practitioners alike.

Anyway, this is a philosophical belief indeed, just like breastfeeding and

avoiding junk food etc. because if you are not going to breastfeed, and are not

going to try to minimize sugar and do your best to provide a healthy diet free

of processed stuff and potentially harmful chemicals, well then you are already

making a different set of choices and in that case perhaps vaccines are a better

answer for most kids in spite of those risks, it's all about options and choices

and parents should be allowed to make these choices based on research and each

child's specific situation. So everyone should make their own decision on it,

but after reading the research and claims of both sides and seeing how acting

one way or another could impact their family.

Oh, I better stop before I really get started on this, but I think every parent

should know their rights, and make the best choices for their child and mercury

free vaccines are just one of these options, spreading them out and only giving

the ones they feel are really necessary is another way to go, or foregoing

vaccines all together and working with nutrition and immune boosting supplements

under the guidance of a good integrative/biomed practitioner who is an MD.

The thing to keep in mind is that even without the mercury, vaccines have a lot

of other neurotoxic chemicals like formaldehyde, aluminum and yes, viral

strains, deadened or not, they all can challenge the immune system and lead to

problems we can now begin attaching a name to, since the research has been

coming out to support all this-- mitochondrial dysfunction for example as we've

seen so many cases and so much research backing it up.

I think if more parents understood the potential risks especially in an already

susceptible population which any neurologically affected child is by definition,

and read the research carefully analyzed both sides, very few would opt to

vaccinate their kids, and would choose to work with diet and supplements as

needed to optimize immune system functioning. But it should definitely be the

parent's decision and particularly given the risks in certain populations, no

school system or legal system or medical system should have the right to force

vaccines on anybody.

Do your research and if after all that you still want to give your child

vaccines, or only some but not others, find a health care practitioner who will

work with you without scare tactics and pressure from pharmaceutical industry

guidelines.And the school system?--well, if you honestly come to believe that in

your child's case vaccines can cause more harm than good, should anybody have

the right to force them on your child?

Good luck!

-Elena mom to Ziana--severely apraxic but otherwise a happy healthy child and

progressing steadily now that appropriate speech therapy/diet/ supplements have

been implemented.

AMY SNOW <amysnow@...> wrote: I haven't had the time to do much

research on the vaccines yet, but will prior to my son's birthday. I did have a

quick question though based on the response to the separate MMR.... Won't the

children have trouble getting into school w/o the required vaccines?

Thanks,

Amy

[Guest guest]

Getting them all at once is not the requirement. With a child with a

neurodelay a dr can write an exemmption of the typical timeline

letter subject to state law. Good luck. Religious exemptions are

available some places. Also, look at the state schedule. Some things

are required between ages 4-6. Does not mean you have to do it all on

the 4th bday. Often school stuff is not as clear cut as you are told.

Best to do your own research and get your facts. Like all of this.

>

> I haven't had the time to do much research on the vaccines yet, but

will prior to my son's birthday.  I did have a quick question though

based on the response to the separate MMR....  Won't the children

have trouble getting into school w/o the required vaccines?

> Thanks,

> Amy

[Guest guest]

absolutely not. Every state has exemptions that you are able to choose to

avoid getting them for your children.

There are Religious, Medical and Philosophical Exemptions. You'd have to

check with your state to see which ones are available

becky

In a message dated 7/16/2008 3:45:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

amysnow@... writes:

I haven't had the time to do much research on the vaccines yet, but will

prior to my son's birthday. I did have a quick question though based on the

response to the separate MMR.... Won't the children have trouble getting into

school w/o the required vaccines?

Thanks,

Amy

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[Guest guest]

If your child's doctor gives you the form from your state showing

that your child is getting the vaccines or is on a delayed schedule

you are within the law and will be fine. You may however have to

educate them!

My local school told me my son could not attend since he did not have

all his vaccinations. I had a state form signed by my son's doctor -

the GOLD STANDARD. One quick call to the Superintendent helped

educate all involved on my state's laws. (It's a shame that I had to

as a mother had to inform the school nurse what the law is. She was

completely ignorant of the law. Apparently my son was the first who

was on a delayed schedule she'd ever encountered.)

>

> I haven't had the time to do much research on the vaccines yet, but

will prior to my son's birthday.  I did have a quick question though

based on the response to the separate MMR....  Won't the children

have trouble getting into school w/o the required vaccines?

> Thanks,

> Amy