Guest guest Posted September 19, 2001 Report Share Posted September 19, 2001 : Welcome to the support group! In addition to Joe F.'s advice: We have wonderful and easy to follow " files " in the support group. Go to the home page and click on " Files " in the left hand margin. Presto, a list of files will present themselves. Just click on the ones you want to read. Start with : " CR Made Easy " . Let me know if you have trouble accessing the files. Take advantage of our archives. Just type in the one or two words you're searching for in the " search archives " box. You'll get all the previous discussions on that subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Hi , I thought Bob gave some terrific advice. And I wanted to add to his mention about an hour of exercise being enough. You don't want to chain yourself to a gym to lose weight. You need a life, too. An hour a day should be plenty. But try to fit in mild exercise throughout your day. Walk up and down the stairs; park far away in the grocery store parking lot; walk to the store if you can instead of driving; take a walk in the evening with your wife and/or your dog. It's the long, slow distance that burns off the fat. And this kind of exercise won't have you running to the refrigerator to resuscitate plunging blood sugar. Good luck! And like Bob says, don't give up if you have an off day. Just pick yourself up and continue the journey (walking, of course). Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 I'm not a Dr and I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn recently, but IMO the primary thing someone who is morbidly obese needs to do is have a recent medical examination and perhaps some specific medical attention based on those test results. In general, overweight individuals seem to show rapid improvement in sundry bio-markers like blood chemistry after only modest weight loss as long as they maintain a slight negative energy balance. Regarding energy balance our bodies seem more responsive to our stored sugar (glycogen) available routinely ignoring many thousands of times more energy in stored fat. Further rapid consumption of that fat mass comes with releases of other fat soluble molecules that were resident in there. Some may be good like vitamins but there will also be toxins released that were being held in protective custody. So living primarily off of our fat stores without adequate good food to buffer and help clear released toxins could increase the stress on our body more than just being overweight did. Always be alert to the potential for unintended consequences. Of course my layman advice is no better than anybody else, so good luck, but I will repeat my vote for moderation unless you have specific medical advice otherwise. You will eventually need to learn to live on many less calories but that is a journey not a switch you can just throw one day. It's not easy to do so take the time to get it right and develop patterns and habits you can live with for the duration. Good luckJR On Apr 2, 2007, at 6:12 PM, nosirreeb wrote:>> > One should not be trying to lose weight too fast.Dr. Walford's recommendations concerning slow weight loss are in thecontext of people who are at or near normal weight who desire to gobelow their set point. It's not clear that this applies to people whoare morbidly obese.I would also contend that someone who is morbidly obese has "a medicalreason for rapid weight loss", an approach which he appears tocondone, or at least recognize, on page 81 of BT120YD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Hi folks: I am with JR on this. Did we not recently see posted here a study done jointly by Pritikin and UCLA which found profound benefits to important biomarkers within three weeks of starting an appropriate diet, long before there was material loss of weight? So the loss of the weight itself is not the principal issue, at least initially, in beginning to restore health. Also, as JR notes, the release of toxic compounds from fat stores when they are are needed because of a negative energy balance was clearly an issue in Biosphere II. Two of the Biosphere residents had a dramatic increase in their blood concentrations of hazardous compounds. So a rapid release of long-stored fat can cause toxic, unintended consequences. And the more rapid the release the greater the short term toxicity. One wonders whether this might possibly have been a factor in Dr. Walford's illness. However, for someone starting out at 400 pounds, losing half a pound a week is not going to get the job done either. Rodney. --- In , <crjohnr@...> wrote: ............................ > In general, overweight individuals seem to show rapid improvement in > sundry bio-markers like blood chemistry after only modest weight loss > as long as they maintain a slight negative energy balance. Regarding > energy balance our bodies seem more responsive to our stored sugar > (glycogen) available routinely ignoring many thousands of times more > energy in stored fat. > > Further rapid consumption of that fat mass comes with releases of > other fat soluble molecules that were resident in there. Some may be > good like vitamins but there will also be toxins released that were > being held in protective custody. ........................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 Jeff: if someone lost a few pounds a week for the first six or eight weeks (as an example let’s say: 3 to 4 lbs a week or half the amount that the original poster said he was losing which was a pound a day), that’s an initial rapid weight loss of 30 or so pounds. If they then slowed down to say 2 lbs a week, they would still lose up to another 80 or so pounds within a year. That’s over 100 pounds. ------------------------------ I often see people who have over 150 or 200 pounds to lose and usually have some serious health conditions along with it. Several of them have lost over 100 lbs in a year, and are better off for it. I have a women in her 60s right now who must lose around 150 before the will operate on her. She needs 2 new knees and 1 new hip along with some serious medical conditions. Time is of the essence. If she lost 1 lb a week, it would take 3 years, time she doesnt have. But she also has more " lee way " in her calories. To maintain her intial weight, she had to be eating over 3000 calories per day. So, even if she went to 2000, thats enough of a calorie deficit to produce weight loss of a pound a day, and that is still alot of food. Regards Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Way to go, Amy! That's so awesome! I remember when this started happening for me as well and I remember thinking to myself " this isn't me! I'm waking up and feeling happy and excited. How strange! " . Each day I'd get up and wonder what weird and wonderful thing my body was going to do that day. It was and still is truly amazing! Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing! > <snip> > > Today I woke with energy, vibrancy and clarity--what is that like?! It might just be one day, but it makes three months of strict eating worth it! Each day I find a bit more energy to make it through the day, play a little more with my kids, stay awake long enough to read them bedtime stories, etc. Today I felt up to swimming with them in the pool, and even have energy to take them to an amusement park this evening (without napping!). This just isn't " me " , or the " me " I unfortunately have been the last several years. > <snip> > Amy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Ooo! I have chills Amy! Amen to that! Nan >> This health plan is re-introducing LIFE. Is there any food that is more important than LIVING life with all it's richness? A spin on an old phrase: Nothing tastes as good as HEALTHY feels. > Make it your mantra! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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