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I am absolutely appalled with what he said to you!! I am very familiar with

the OAAC list he refers to. In my opinion someone needs to knock him down a

few notches. He is NOT God's gift to advocates, believe me I know some good

ones.

I also agree that we need a privacy " clause " in the loop rules. I was

incorrect in assuming that it was already there. That is the way it is on

all the other lists I belong to. I can definitely say I don't feel

comfortable posting anything on this list that I would wish to keep private.

--I am very sorry this happened to you.

MISSY

SAHM to some special kids!!!

Excuse Me While I Go

Raise Tomorrow's Future.

Re: Another Victim - Yes to Vindication!!!

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> I personally am astounded that a parent would complain about their school

district and then send email such as this to a US Civil Rights Lobbyist. I

am not an attorney, I am a professional advocate.....if I was an attorney

don't you think I would tell you of costs , etc. Jeanine is just trying

to help, if you don't want her help.....tell her no thank you. All email,

files, etc, at OAAC are confidential by nature and only used for the

purpose in which they appear to be intended for.

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> I suggest that you join a group for home based children..... because you

'Admin' of your group may be in NEED of help. How do you know ?

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> I find you email to me not only offensive but also repulsive. I do not

get up at 4 a.m. to work on a Sunday to help INGRATES. So, Do not EVER

ask me for help.... okay....and remember... next time it will be 5 thousand

to an attorney if you EVER need help......instead of costs only to a person

that has worked for 8 years for kids like yours and Mine.

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> Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? This is EXACTLY why we have

such a problem uniting parents of children with Autism, Many are too

AFRAID to go after whats right..... Now, you can LEAVE ME ALONE.... which

means.... you can leave alone a Network of over 100 professional advocates

across the country.......smooth move exlax. Hopefully your son doesn't need

some advocates help in the future. You don't sound like a 'know it all'

parent that 'doesn't need help'.

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> Well.......you have a lesson to learn......when......who knows ??????

Your child is a very young child......good luck to you when he grows up and

throws tantrums all over. Your home based program can't be so great if he's

tantrumming on you. And, why did you complain so much....I have your

email copy.... when you are so " HAPPY " ...............Misery loves

company....you can't have OAAC's company.... ride this one out on your

own......or pay an attorney thousands... You just made the choice.

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This is absolutely horrifying. And he calls himself a professional. I wonder

if there is an organization that oversees " advocates " like him that you could

report this to.

Patti R.

Re: Another Victim - Yes to Vindication!!!

I personally am astounded that a parent would complain about their school

district and then send email such as this to a US Civil Rights Lobbyist. I am

not an attorney, I am a professional advocate.....if I was an attorney don't

you think I would tell you of costs , etc. Jeanine is just trying to help,

if you don't want her help.....tell her no thank you. All email, files, etc,

at OAAC are confidential by nature and only used for the purpose in which they

appear to be intended for.

I suggest that you join a group for home based children..... because you

'Admin' of your group may be in NEED of help. How do you know ?

I find you email to me not only offensive but also repulsive. I do not get

up at 4 a.m. to work on a Sunday to help INGRATES. So, Do not EVER ask me

for help.... okay....and remember... next time it will be 5 thousand to an

attorney if you EVER need help......instead of costs only to a person that has

worked for 8 years for kids like yours and Mine.

Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? This is EXACTLY why we have

such a problem uniting parents of children with Autism, Many are too AFRAID to

go after whats right..... Now, you can LEAVE ME ALONE.... which means.... you

can leave alone a Network of over 100 professional advocates across the

country.......smooth move exlax. Hopefully your son doesn't need some advocates

help in the future. You don't sound like a 'know it all' parent that 'doesn't

need help'.

Well.......you have a lesson to learn......when......who knows ?????? Your

child is a very young child......good luck to you when he grows up and throws

tantrums all over. Your home based program can't be so great if he's

tantrumming on you. And, why did you complain so much....I have your email

copy.... when you are so " HAPPY " ...............Misery loves company....you

can't have OAAC's company.... ride this one out on your own......or pay an

attorney thousands... You just made the choice.

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There is and with permission I will see what can be done. No names will be

mentioned I will only ask about who needs to be contacted.

MISSY

SAHM to some special kids!!!

Excuse Me While I Go

Raise Tomorrow's Future.

Re: Another Victim - Yes to Vindication!!!

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> I personally am astounded that a parent would complain about their

school district and then send email such as this to a US Civil Rights

Lobbyist. I am not an attorney, I am a professional advocate.....if I was

an attorney don't you think I would tell you of costs , etc. Jeanine is

just trying to help, if you don't want her help.....tell her no thank you.

All email, files, etc, at OAAC are confidential by nature and only used for

the purpose in which they appear to be intended for.

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> I suggest that you join a group for home based children..... because you

'Admin' of your group may be in NEED of help. How do you know ?

>

> I find you email to me not only offensive but also repulsive. I do not

get up at 4 a.m. to work on a Sunday to help INGRATES. So, Do not EVER

ask me for help.... okay....and remember... next time it will be 5 thousand

to an attorney if you EVER need help......instead of costs only to a person

that has worked for 8 years for kids like yours and Mine.

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> Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? This is EXACTLY why we

have such a problem uniting parents of children with Autism, Many are too

AFRAID to go after whats right..... Now, you can LEAVE ME ALONE.... which

means.... you can leave alone a Network of over 100 professional advocates

across the country.......smooth move exlax. Hopefully your son doesn't need

some advocates help in the future. You don't sound like a 'know it all'

parent that 'doesn't need help'.

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> Well.......you have a lesson to learn......when......who knows ??????

Your child is a very young child......good luck to you when he grows up and

throws tantrums all over. Your home based program can't be so great if he's

tantrumming on you. And, why did you complain so much....I have your

email copy.... when you are so " HAPPY " ...............Misery loves

company....you can't have OAAC's company.... ride this one out on your

own......or pay an attorney thousands... You just made the choice.

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I believe he is on the OAAC list I am on. Jeanine I am waiting on an email

to confirm that whether he is or not.

MISSY

SAHM to some special kids!!!

Excuse Me While I Go

Raise Tomorrow's Future.

Re: Another Victim - Yes to Vindication!!!

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> > > I personally am astounded that a parent would complain about their

> school

> > district and then send email such as this to a US Civil Rights Lobbyist.

> I

> > am not an attorney, I am a professional advocate.....if I was an

attorney

> > don't you think I would tell you of costs , etc. Jeanine is just

> trying

> > to help, if you don't want her help.....tell her no thank you. All

> email,

> > files, etc, at OAAC are confidential by nature and only used for the

> > purpose in which they appear to be intended for.

> > >

> > > I suggest that you join a group for home based children..... because

you

> > 'Admin' of your group may be in NEED of help. How do you know ?

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> > > I find you email to me not only offensive but also repulsive. I do

not

> > get up at 4 a.m. to work on a Sunday to help INGRATES. So, Do not

EVER

> > ask me for help.... okay....and remember... next time it will be 5

> thousand

> > to an attorney if you EVER need help......instead of costs only to a

> person

> > that has worked for 8 years for kids like yours and Mine.

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> > > Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? This is EXACTLY why we

> have

> > such a problem uniting parents of children with Autism, Many are too

> > AFRAID to go after whats right..... Now, you can LEAVE ME ALONE....

which

> > means.... you can leave alone a Network of over 100 professional

advocates

> > across the country.......smooth move exlax. Hopefully your son doesn't

> need

> > some advocates help in the future. You don't sound like a 'know it

all'

> > parent that 'doesn't need help'.

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> > > Well.......you have a lesson to learn......when......who knows ??????

> > Your child is a very young child......good luck to you when he grows up

> and

> > throws tantrums all over. Your home based program can't be so great if

> he's

> > tantrumming on you. And, why did you complain so much....I have your

> > email copy.... when you are so " HAPPY " ...............Misery loves

> > company....you can't have OAAC's company.... ride this one out on your

> > own......or pay an attorney thousands... You just made the choice.

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Jeanine, sadly enough he is an advocate. He is a disgrace to the position.

MISSY

SAHM to some special kids!!!

Excuse Me While I Go

Raise Tomorrow's Future.

Re: Another Victim - Yes to Vindication!!!

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> > >

> > > I personally am astounded that a parent would complain about their

> school

> > district and then send email such as this to a US Civil Rights Lobbyist.

> I

> > am not an attorney, I am a professional advocate.....if I was an

attorney

> > don't you think I would tell you of costs , etc. Jeanine is just

> trying

> > to help, if you don't want her help.....tell her no thank you. All

> email,

> > files, etc, at OAAC are confidential by nature and only used for the

> > purpose in which they appear to be intended for.

> > >

> > > I suggest that you join a group for home based children..... because

you

> > 'Admin' of your group may be in NEED of help. How do you know ?

> > >

> > > I find you email to me not only offensive but also repulsive. I do

not

> > get up at 4 a.m. to work on a Sunday to help INGRATES. So, Do not

EVER

> > ask me for help.... okay....and remember... next time it will be 5

> thousand

> > to an attorney if you EVER need help......instead of costs only to a

> person

> > that has worked for 8 years for kids like yours and Mine.

> > >

> > > Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? This is EXACTLY why we

> have

> > such a problem uniting parents of children with Autism, Many are too

> > AFRAID to go after whats right..... Now, you can LEAVE ME ALONE....

which

> > means.... you can leave alone a Network of over 100 professional

advocates

> > across the country.......smooth move exlax. Hopefully your son doesn't

> need

> > some advocates help in the future. You don't sound like a 'know it

all'

> > parent that 'doesn't need help'.

> > >

> > > Well.......you have a lesson to learn......when......who knows ??????

> > Your child is a very young child......good luck to you when he grows up

> and

> > throws tantrums all over. Your home based program can't be so great if

> he's

> > tantrumming on you. And, why did you complain so much....I have your

> > email copy.... when you are so " HAPPY " ...............Misery loves

> > company....you can't have OAAC's company.... ride this one out on your

> > own......or pay an attorney thousands... You just made the choice.

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[Guest guest]

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This guy sounds totally sick. If I were going to use him before, I certainly

wouldn't now, after seeing that unprofessional blowup. And I'm shocked that your

email was sent to this guy without your permission. We don't do that to each

other here. I'm sorry. :-(

Liz

" L. " wrote:

> Below is 's last correspondence to me in which he insults me,

my son, my abilities as a home educator, and uses vulgarities. It was in

response to the e-mail that I sent, which read:

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> ================================

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> The email that was forwarded to you was a PIECE of a conversation from a

PRIVATE LIST. It was forwarded without my permission. My son's school was, at

best, kind of dense and not abusive at all. Your reporting it to " the feds "

(whatever that means) is patently ridiculous. At BEST it was a disagreement

about how to handle my son's violent outbursts. I have ZERO ill will toward

these people; I actually believe homeschooling is the best educational option

for children with Asperger's, so I'm not at all upset at " having " to homeschool.

My privacy has now been invaded twice - first by the inconsiderate person who

forwarded my post to you without my permission, and now you, reporting my son's

school without knowing ANY of the facts of the case involved. This is extremely

irresponsible of you.

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> Besides which, how do you even know what school to report? I certainly never

mention it, or my full name, or my son's, in any of my e-mails. This is the

most ridiculous correspondence via e-mail that I've ever had.

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> Please stop wasting my time.

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> He then responded (and you'll note that he argues that I'm not on the right

group and that he will continue to seek out possible " victims " on

by saying that y'all may " need " his help in the future -)

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> I personally am astounded that a parent would complain about their school

district and then send email such as this to a US Civil Rights Lobbyist. I am

not an attorney, I am a professional advocate.....if I was an attorney don't

you think I would tell you of costs , etc. Jeanine is just trying to help,

if you don't want her help.....tell her no thank you. All email, files, etc,

at OAAC are confidential by nature and only used for the purpose in which they

appear to be intended for.

>

> I suggest that you join a group for home based children..... because you

'Admin' of your group may be in NEED of help. How do you know ?

>

> I find you email to me not only offensive but also repulsive. I do not get

up at 4 a.m. to work on a Sunday to help INGRATES. So, Do not EVER ask me

for help.... okay....and remember... next time it will be 5 thousand to an

attorney if you EVER need help......instead of costs only to a person that has

worked for 8 years for kids like yours and Mine.

>

> Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? This is EXACTLY why we have

such a problem uniting parents of children with Autism, Many are too AFRAID to

go after whats right..... Now, you can LEAVE ME ALONE.... which means.... you

can leave alone a Network of over 100 professional advocates across the

country.......smooth move exlax. Hopefully your son doesn't need some advocates

help in the future. You don't sound like a 'know it all' parent that 'doesn't

need help'.

>

> Well.......you have a lesson to learn......when......who knows ?????? Your

child is a very young child......good luck to you when he grows up and throws

tantrums all over. Your home based program can't be so great if he's

tantrumming on you. And, why did you complain so much....I have your email

copy.... when you are so " HAPPY " ...............Misery loves company....you

can't have OAAC's company.... ride this one out on your own......or pay an

attorney thousands... You just made the choice.

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The job of an advocate is to either help or step aside.When you do help you

can only do so within the boundaries of which the parent feels comfortable

in. He is far from what I would call a professional advocate. I had thought

about leaving the OAAC list but that would be stupid. There are a lot of

knowledgeable people on there I can learn from.

MISSY

SAHM to some special kids!!!

Excuse Me While I Go

Raise Tomorrow's Future.

Re: Another Victim - Yes to Vindication!!!

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> > I personally am astounded that a parent would complain about their

school district and then send email such as this to a US Civil Rights

Lobbyist. I am not an attorney, I am a professional advocate.....if I was

an attorney don't you think I would tell you of costs , etc. Jeanine is

just trying to help, if you don't want her help.....tell her no thank you.

All email, files, etc, at OAAC are confidential by nature and only used for

the purpose in which they appear to be intended for.

> >

> > I suggest that you join a group for home based children..... because you

'Admin' of your group may be in NEED of help. How do you know ?

> >

> > I find you email to me not only offensive but also repulsive. I do not

get up at 4 a.m. to work on a Sunday to help INGRATES. So, Do not EVER

ask me for help.... okay....and remember... next time it will be 5 thousand

to an attorney if you EVER need help......instead of costs only to a person

that has worked for 8 years for kids like yours and Mine.

> >

> > Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? This is EXACTLY why we

have such a problem uniting parents of children with Autism, Many are too

AFRAID to go after whats right..... Now, you can LEAVE ME ALONE.... which

means.... you can leave alone a Network of over 100 professional advocates

across the country.......smooth move exlax. Hopefully your son doesn't need

some advocates help in the future. You don't sound like a 'know it all'

parent that 'doesn't need help'.

> >

> > Well.......you have a lesson to learn......when......who knows ??????

Your child is a very young child......good luck to you when he grows up and

throws tantrums all over. Your home based program can't be so great if he's

tantrumming on you. And, why did you complain so much....I have your

email copy.... when you are so " HAPPY " ...............Misery loves

company....you can't have OAAC's company.... ride this one out on your

own......or pay an attorney thousands... You just made the choice.

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I am sorry. Has anyone heard of the advocate ?

Re: Another Victim - Yes to Vindication!!!

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> > I personally am astounded that a parent would complain about their

school

> district and then send email such as this to a US Civil Rights Lobbyist.

I

> am not an attorney, I am a professional advocate.....if I was an attorney

> don't you think I would tell you of costs , etc. Jeanine is just

trying

> to help, if you don't want her help.....tell her no thank you. All

email,

> files, etc, at OAAC are confidential by nature and only used for the

> purpose in which they appear to be intended for.

> >

> > I suggest that you join a group for home based children..... because you

> 'Admin' of your group may be in NEED of help. How do you know ?

> >

> > I find you email to me not only offensive but also repulsive. I do not

> get up at 4 a.m. to work on a Sunday to help INGRATES. So, Do not EVER

> ask me for help.... okay....and remember... next time it will be 5

thousand

> to an attorney if you EVER need help......instead of costs only to a

person

> that has worked for 8 years for kids like yours and Mine.

> >

> > Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? This is EXACTLY why we

have

> such a problem uniting parents of children with Autism, Many are too

> AFRAID to go after whats right..... Now, you can LEAVE ME ALONE.... which

> means.... you can leave alone a Network of over 100 professional advocates

> across the country.......smooth move exlax. Hopefully your son doesn't

need

> some advocates help in the future. You don't sound like a 'know it all'

> parent that 'doesn't need help'.

> >

> > Well.......you have a lesson to learn......when......who knows ??????

> Your child is a very young child......good luck to you when he grows up

and

> throws tantrums all over. Your home based program can't be so great if

he's

> tantrumming on you. And, why did you complain so much....I have your

> email copy.... when you are so " HAPPY " ...............Misery loves

> company....you can't have OAAC's company.... ride this one out on your

> own......or pay an attorney thousands... You just made the choice.

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