Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 My son had a project assigned over 3 weeks ago apparently another class had done the same project last year, and the whole class even went to view these projects, my son never said anything about the project nor when its due. I found out on Friday he had a week left to do this project. I also found out every one of the other kids in the class choose to work in groups, and when the teacher asked my son if he would want to work in a group he said no DUH, of course he said no. My son has an IEP that states that in any group situation he is to be assigned a group not be allowed to have to pick one, also in his IEP it says all projects are to be broken down into small steps for him. Well, neither was done, now this is a massive project with complex numbers and building a park. The teacher is willing to give him an extension but I don't even know how to get him to even start this project without being, in the class listening to the directions. What do I do let him fail and then approach the fact that, his IEP was not followed, I already wrote to the ESE director what my thoughts were on this project but no response yet. What would you all do?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 In a message dated 10/2/2003 11:37:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, 4makelas@... writes: > I don't > think it's a big deal for him to get a poor mark in that subject, because he > didn't make the effort to do the work, for whatever reason. Obviously he is > in a " regular class " and doesn't have an EA assigned to him, otherwise this > never would have happened. You may get more supports as a result. > Here is the problem it is a GEM class gifted education in math, and that is one of the only classes that I feel teaches him anything, he loves the class and the teacher. I can't just let him fail in this class as once he fails he is out of GEM and then put in reg. ed for math which is not what he needs. If it were another class I would have no problem letting him fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 In a message dated 10/2/2003 11:58:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, mlndhall@... writes: > I would definitely get a hold of the sped teacher and > ask her/him what they are going to do to get this > done. They have failed to provide your son the > provisions/accomodations stated in his IEP I spoke with his support facilitator who is clueless and says why can't he get it done its due in a week, and he choose to work alone so what is the big deal. I told her that he is clueless when it comes to this project and she said its in his math book look at the rubric, I told her that it was not my project but his and he has to understand what too do and she should have broken it down for him if the math teacher could not do it. Her response is I don't have that much time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 , I would scrap the project. Obviously, it's a big project with different aspects assigned to the individual members of the gruop. They can give him a 0, and you can bring up the fact that his IEP was not followed. Sometimes that's what it takes to get your child's IEP followed! I don't think it's a big deal for him to get a poor mark in that subject, because he didn't make the effort to do the work, for whatever reason. Obviously he is in a " regular class " and doesn't have an EA assigned to him, otherwise this never would have happened. You may get more supports as a result. We can't always " rescue " our kids. Sometimes it is actually good for them to fail, and then the school will see that there really is a problem. How much of the reason for the project getting done is him being lazy? What about not understanding the instructions? The teacher not breaking it down into small steps? Not being assigned to a group? Not realizing that when the teacher talking about the project, that it actually INCLUDED him doing one? How about the teacher not sending you any information about the project, and not monitoring the amount of work the students are accomplishing toward the goal, perhaps on a weekly basis? If you help him with the project, then it won't be his work anyway, will it? And think about how many hours he would have to spend each night to accomplish it. You asked what we though. That's what I'd do. / 4makelas@... Way, Way Up in Northern Ontario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 I hate this type of thing. I guess since she's willing to give an extension I'd ask to meet w/ her. I'd take the IEP and ask if she has had a chance to look over it. And how can ya work together to help your ds w/ this project. Since everyone else had help then she should reduce the overall project. pLus it's partly her job to break it into segments. Good Luck! a > My son had a project assigned over 3 weeks ago apparently another > class had done the same project last year, and the whole class even went to > view these projects, my son never said anything about the project nor when its > due. I found out on Friday he had a week left to do this project. I also found > out every one of the other kids in the class choose to work in groups, and > when the teacher asked my son if he would want to work in a group he said no DUH, > of course he said no. My son has an IEP that states that in any group > situation he is to be assigned a group not be allowed to have to pick one, also in > his IEP it says all projects are to be broken down into small steps for him. > Well, neither was done, now this is a massive project with complex numbers and > building a park. The teacher is willing to give him an extension but I don't > even know how to get him to even start this project without being, in the class > listening to the directions. What do I do let him fail and then approach the > fact that, his IEP was not followed, I already wrote to the ESE director what my > thoughts were on this project but no response yet. What would you all do?? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Dear , yet another stupid teacher. does it take a rocket scientist to figure out that the child needs help. even if he didn't have problems if a child doesn't choose to be in a group and the project requires that the child be in the group (light bulb!!!!!!) the teacher should asign one and make sure that all the groups are comfortable. what did the teacher take in college? nose picking?!!!!!!! it sounds like that is all that teacher is able to acomplish. doesn't sound like teaching is on the agenda. my son never would tell me about projects either and i would have to do them at the last minute. that was hard when i was working over 50 hours a week trying to support him. we did a project on einstien. he wanted to do it. he picked it out. i rented a mask and a smock from a rental place(the mask was a whole head) it was so cute. he read the thing i think i had to write but he was able with alot of practice to read it out loud in the class. he did so good. anyway i recorded it and the teacher did also. enough we me you hang in there and set that teacher staight. it is her or his jobbbbbbbbbbbb to see to it that the children in his class get an education. that is what they are paid for. and at least if they are having trouble with your precious child they could call you well in advance and let you know what is going on so you can help your child succeed. a da!!!!! how hard is that? i get a little mad when i see things like this happen. hang in there and take care. i care. Betty Re: ( ) Projects UGH My son had a project assigned over 3 weeks ago apparently another class had done the same project last year, and the whole class even went to view these projects, my son never said anything about the project nor when its due. I found out on Friday he had a week left to do this project. I also found out every one of the other kids in the class choose to work in groups, and when the teacher asked my son if he would want to work in a group he said no DUH, of course he said no. My son has an IEP that states that in any group situation he is to be assigned a group not be allowed to have to pick one, also in his IEP it says all projects are to be broken down into small steps for him. Well, neither was done, now this is a massive project with complex numbers and building a park. The teacher is willing to give him an extension but I don't even know how to get him to even start this project without being, in the class listening to the directions. What do I do let him fail and then approach the fact that, his IEP was not followed, I already wrote to the ESE director what my thoughts were on this project but no response yet. What would you all do?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 Ooooh. I see where you are coming from, . / 4makelas@... Way, Way Up in Northern Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: <RNMOM72668@...> > > Here is the problem it is a GEM class gifted education in math, and > that is one of the only classes that I feel teaches him anything, he loves the > class and the teacher. I can't just let him fail in this class as once he > fails he is out of GEM and then put in reg. ed for math which is not what he > needs. If it were another class I would have no problem letting him fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 , What's the project and we can put our head together for you two. in NJ Re: ( ) Projects UGH Ooooh. I see where you are coming from, . / 4makelas@... Way, Way Up in Northern Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: <RNMOM72668@...> > > Here is the problem it is a GEM class gifted education in math, and > that is one of the only classes that I feel teaches him anything, he loves the > class and the teacher. I can't just let him fail in this class as once he > fails he is out of GEM and then put in reg. ed for math which is not what he > needs. If it were another class I would have no problem letting him fail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 In a message dated 10/2/2003 10:34:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, embroidery4@... writes: > What's the project and we can put our head together for you two. > Hi , believe me its a very hard project he has to design a > lunar theme park, it was done in groups, of course my son was the only one > without a group. ANyway I am going to contact the teacher today and hopefully the > teacher will have some ideas on a different more manageable project. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 The teacher is willing to give him an extension but I don't > even know how to get him to even start this project without being, in the class > listening to the directions. What do I do let him fail and then approach the > fact that, his IEP was not followed, I already wrote to the ESE director what my > thoughts were on this project but no response yet. What would you all do?? > I would call an IEP meeting and go over the IEP instructions that were not followed and ask them all what they were going to do now to make this better. Roxanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 > In a message dated 10/2/2003 11:58:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mlndhall@y... writes: > > > I would definitely get a hold of the sped teacher and > > ask her/him what they are going to do to get this > > done. They have failed to provide your son the > > provisions/accomodations stated in his IEP > I spoke with his support facilitator who is clueless and says > why can't he get it done its due in a week, and he choose to work alone so what > is the big deal. I told her that he is clueless when it comes to this project > and she said its in his math book look at the rubric, I told her that it was > not my project but his and he has to understand what too do and she should > have broken it down for him if the math teacher could not do it. Her response is > I don't have that much time. > > Whoa, not enough time to implement the IEP?????? I would put that in a letter to the superintendent. Roxanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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