I hate psych evals...I hate psych evals...

[Guest guest]

although this was an informal eval...not scales or tools used...

just an observation...

He was horrible while the nurse was trying to take his height, weight and

blood pressure...and then when we went into the office, they had new to him toys

so he went straight for it (I often say he cares more about toys than people)

and then sat there with one of them doing imaginary play for like an

hour...purely angelic...I coudlnt' believe it...

One asked questions while one entertained him...then they switched...and the

other took him out of the room to get him to run and stuff...

Then they had a conference and made us go into the waiting room where he is

bouncing around. I go back and they tell me he has ADHD and behavior

problems...coudlnt' define/quantify/ etc the behavior problems...which I think

mostly

stem from sensory, changes in schedule or rituals, opposition...but they

didn't want to think about that. They said he was too social with them...I

argued

that its a problem with peer relationships...and that I was in a room full of

aspie children who wanted to show off and share with the adults there. They

also tried to tell me his communication skills were too good...which is clearly

in the DSM for aspergers. Then when I argued with that, they said his

language early on wouldn't have been that good...he had three months of speech

therapy when he first started withdrawing and then he had a PDD-NOS dx b/c he

didn't talk enough in public. They didn't seemed moved. Then one of them tried

to

tell me that the DSM-IV for aspergers was written for Adults and so its

talking about relating to adults when it reads peers...isn't that crazy? I

looked

at her like she was speaking french and then she corrected herself and so 'no

with aspergers I guess it is written for chidlren " ...can you believe that?

I don't know what to do...they said he needs behavior intervention in his

natural enviroment, but they were doing the eval for the behavior program and by

saying ADHD was his dx without giving any explanation for his behavior means

we wont get it...I am soooo frustrated! I don't know what to do. We dont'

have the money to take him all around and get the right diagnosis. Any

suggestions welcomed!

deb...mom to three great adopted kids... (07.04.96-05.26.03) with

Mitochondrial Disease, Gaige age 4 with Aspergers Syndrome and Bliss age 2 with

very very mild Cerebral Palsy.

www.HeartLiftersGallery.com

NurturingHeavensKids/

[Guest guest]

Deb,

I got close to the same reaction from the first psychologist I took to. It

wasn't until I took him to a University Hospital with a Neuropsychologist that I

found someone who really knew what Asperger was. That first psychologist and the

pediatrician that was supposidly an expert with child behavior problems both

thought that in order for him to have Asperger, he had to show symptoms of lower

functioning autism. It is also difficult for me to take to experts because

of finances and I am still dealing with that. I keep hearing advice to take him

to UCLA to their wonderful Aspeger program. It is a 70 mile or greater trip

through the worst part of LA to get there. By the time I made it, may be in

a great place, but I'd have to be admitted to the psyche ward just to get over

the drive!LOL Not to mention that the car would not make it back, so we'd just

have to take our sleeping bags and move in.

Hugs,

Peg

VisibleWorship@... wrote:

although this was an informal eval...not scales or tools used...

just an observation...

He was horrible while the nurse was trying to take his height, weight and

blood pressure...and then when we went into the office, they had new to him toys

so he went straight for it (I often say he cares more about toys than people)

and then sat there with one of them doing imaginary play for like an

hour...purely angelic...I coudlnt' believe it...

One asked questions while one entertained him...then they switched...and the

other took him out of the room to get him to run and stuff...

Then they had a conference and made us go into the waiting room where he is

bouncing around. I go back and they tell me he has ADHD and behavior

problems...coudlnt' define/quantify/ etc the behavior problems...which I think

mostly

stem from sensory, changes in schedule or rituals, opposition...but they

didn't want to think about that. They said he was too social with them...I

argued

that its a problem with peer relationships...and that I was in a room full of

aspie children who wanted to show off and share with the adults there. They

also tried to tell me his communication skills were too good...which is clearly

in the DSM for aspergers. Then when I argued with that, they said his

language early on wouldn't have been that good...he had three months of speech

therapy when he first started withdrawing and then he had a PDD-NOS dx b/c he

didn't talk enough in public. They didn't seemed moved. Then one of them tried

to

tell me that the DSM-IV for aspergers was written for Adults and so its

talking about relating to adults when it reads peers...isn't that crazy? I

looked

at her like she was speaking french and then she corrected herself and so 'no

with aspergers I guess it is written for chidlren " ...can you believe that?

I don't know what to do...they said he needs behavior intervention in his

natural enviroment, but they were doing the eval for the behavior program and by

saying ADHD was his dx without giving any explanation for his behavior means

we wont get it...I am soooo frustrated! I don't know what to do. We dont'

have the money to take him all around and get the right diagnosis. Any

suggestions welcomed!

deb...mom to three great adopted kids... (07.04.96-05.26.03) with

Mitochondrial Disease, Gaige age 4 with Aspergers Syndrome and Bliss age 2 with

very very mild Cerebral Palsy.

www.HeartLiftersGallery.com

NurturingHeavensKids/

[Guest guest]

You are defininteiy dealing with people who don't know m uch about

ASD's. Actually in the DSM lV TR it states that no clinically

significant delay in language can be present in ORDER to get a dx of

Aspergers, then it is usually dxed as HFA. Anyone with a clue knows

that these kids need to be observed in novel social situations and

what psych in their right mind would screen for anything

without " scales or tools " in 2003? I'll bet a ton of people on this

list have been told their child is " too social " to be on the

spectrum, usually from people whose entire experience with autism has

been watching Dateline and Rainman. I dont know where you are from

but the services you are going to lose or never get might be worth

the investment of taking him somewhere else. If a school district did

this then they can probably be held liable for the cost of your

reassessment if you find they were wrong. Hope you get accurate

assesment somewhere! - christine

> although this was an informal eval...not scales or tools used...

>

> just an observation...

>

> He was horrible while the nurse was trying to take his height,

weight and

> blood pressure...and then when we went into the office, they had

new to him toys

> so he went straight for it (I often say he cares more about toys

than people)

> and then sat there with one of them doing imaginary play for like

an

> hour...purely angelic...I coudlnt' believe it...

>

> One asked questions while one entertained him...then they

switched...and the

> other took him out of the room to get him to run and stuff...

>

> Then they had a conference and made us go into the waiting room

where he is

> bouncing around. I go back and they tell me he has ADHD and

behavior

> problems...coudlnt' define/quantify/ etc the behavior

problems...which I think mostly

> stem from sensory, changes in schedule or rituals, opposition...but

they

> didn't want to think about that. They said he was too social with

them...I argued

> that its a problem with peer relationships...and that I was in a

room full of

> aspie children who wanted to show off and share with the adults

there. They

> also tried to tell me his communication skills were too

good...which is clearly

> in the DSM for aspergers. Then when I argued with that, they said

his

> language early on wouldn't have been that good...he had three

months of speech

> therapy when he first started withdrawing and then he had a PDD-NOS

dx b/c he

> didn't talk enough in public. They didn't seemed moved. Then one

of them tried to

> tell me that the DSM-IV for aspergers was written for Adults and so

its

> talking about relating to adults when it reads peers...isn't that

crazy? I looked

> at her like she was speaking french and then she corrected herself

and so 'no

> with aspergers I guess it is written for chidlren " ...can you

believe that?

>

> I don't know what to do...they said he needs behavior intervention

in his

> natural enviroment, but they were doing the eval for the behavior

program and by

> saying ADHD was his dx without giving any explanation for his

behavior means

> we wont get it...I am soooo frustrated! I don't know what to do.

We dont'

> have the money to take him all around and get the right diagnosis.

Any

> suggestions welcomed!

>

> deb...mom to three great adopted kids... (07.04.96-05.26.03)

with

> Mitochondrial Disease, Gaige age 4 with Aspergers Syndrome and

Bliss age 2 with

> very very mild Cerebral Palsy.

> www.HeartLiftersGallery.com

> NurturingHeavensKids/

>

>

>