Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 In a message dated 5/13/03 11:27:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sjparvin@... writes: > I really was counting on her to steer the > meeting and keep us on track of getting him what I think he needs. > Sit down and write up an agenda that lists all the items you feel need to be discussed and even little notes to keep you on track. Go down the agenda at the meeting if you steer the meeting and if they do, cross off what is c overed and when they are done, bring up the items that they didn't cover. I saw a form online somewhere that was nice...it has a box for " Parent wants " " Schools response. " or do your own outline - whatever will work for you. I just jot down a list on regular paper or print one up from my computer. <<Then, this am I spoke to the sped teacher and he doesn't qualify for the intensive programs (2 1/2 hr day) because he tested so high! Btw, she did mention in her report that his ability in the classroom setting (not test setting) was lower. She said there are a lot of kids that are testing below the state standard of 7% (I have to confirm that somehow) and that is what those intensive classes are for. >> As with everything you are told, you want to verify it in writing with the appropriate printed material. Ask to see the guidelines in writing for qualifying for this program. It could be that the 7% is someone's idea and not an actual rule. Find out. Ask to see your child's scores - all of them. You know with test scores, sometimes they are simply averaged to come up with one base number. The subtest scores however, may be vary different from each other. You know a child could be doing below average work in one class, above average in another class and get a middle of the road grade average. That average does not represent an accurate picture at all. So look at his scores and also ask to see the scores in age equivalents so you can understand them. << I made mention that I wanted him in a particular classroom and she said that class may be for higher functioning kids, but didn't know for sure. >> Good, since your kid is higher functioning, sounds like the right class. Visit the classroom and look at the kids and the activities and then decide what you think knowing what you know about your child. Observe other classrooms that you feel they will recommend and take notes. Then you will know what to talk about. <<but this am when she said he really doesn't qualify for the sped preschool class that just confirmed it. Now grant it, the school psych report is not in yet, so maybe that will persuade them. >> I'm not sure what kind of classroom this is but if it's for kids with special needs, then she cannot make that decision unilaterally. It must be a " TEAM " decision and you are part of that team. In addition, the team has to consider more than just one test score or one kind of test to make this decision. They must consider a variety of factors. What you want to do is arm yourself with reasons why this is appropriate for you child using reports, recommendations, comments from any teachers he's had before, etc. << know I will calm down in a bit, so please know that this is just me venting and I REALLY appreciate being able to do so with you guys. Thanks.... >> You're welcome! Sorry to hear that the advocate bailed on you. I've heard of that happening before here in my area and it surely is upsetting. But try to relax and assemble your paperwork. The more prepared you are, the better you will do. Also, I like to think of reasons they will deny things and then I can come up with arguments in advance so I am prepared. That helps me get through these things. BTW, I have two meetings tomorrow. I have one in the morning for my 3 yo to discuss his IEP. I have one in the early afternoon at the MRDD to discuss my 6 yo who is too smart to be autistic enough, lol. I should be looney by the time I get done! You are not alone! Roxanna ö¿ö " ...don't forget what happened to the man who suddenly got everything he'd ever wished for... He lived happily ever after. " Willy Wonka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 In a message dated 5/13/03 12:52:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kneeleee@... writes: > BTW, I have two meetings tomorrow. I have one in the morning for my 3 yo to > > discuss his IEP. I have one in the early afternoon at the MRDD to discuss > my > 6 yo who is too smart to be autistic enough, lol. I should be looney by > the > time I get done! You are not alone! > > Argh! Good luck! Just HAVE to tell you, Roxanna. I got a call from the SPED dircetor to tell me that ESY funding for was approved PROVIDED I can get the deposit. When I asked WHY I was being asked to help, she LAUGHED and said " because it's not publicized that they will do this. They don't normally offer to pay for this program. " @@ Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 In a message dated 5/13/03 1:07:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Dawahooz@... writes: > Just HAVE to tell you, Roxanna. I got a call from the SPED dircetor to tell > > me that ESY funding for was approved PROVIDED I can get the deposit. > > When I asked WHY I was being asked to help, she LAUGHED and said " because > it's not publicized that they will do this. They don't normally offer to > pay > for this program. " > The sped director is saying that the other program usually doesn't help pay for this stuff? Roxanna ôô What doesn't kill us Makes us really mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 In a message dated 5/13/2003 9:52:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kneeleee@... writes: > BTW, I have two meetings tomorrow. I have one in the morning for my 3 yo to > > discuss his IEP. I have one in the early afternoon at the MRDD to discuss > my > 6 yo who is too smart to be autistic enough, lol. I should be looney by > the > time I get done! You are not alone! > > Roxanna ö¿ö > As always, you are a plethera of knowledge and support! Thank you! Good luck tomorrow and I will be sending good thoughts your way that it works out great for both of them. What do you have planned for a treat for yourself after all of this? We both know how important that can be Johanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 In a message dated 5/13/03 1:14:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kneeleee@... writes: > The sped director is saying that the other program usually doesn't help pay > for this stuff? > No, Mrs SPED is saying the SCHOOL doesn't usually pay for this program. I'm not quite sure WHAT she's getting at. I know they have to pay for ESY if necessary, and it was HER that brought it up. I never heard of this praticular program. And it was HER words that said he would fall behind if he DIDN'T have ESY. I have already told her in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that I don't have the money. Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 In a message dated 5/13/03 1:19:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sjparvin@... writes: > What do you have planned for a treat for yourself after > all of this? We both know how important that can be > Johanna > Augh! Nothing! I haven't got that far yet. lol. Roxanna ôô What doesn't kill us Makes us really mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 In a message dated 5/13/03 1:50:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Dawahooz@... writes: > No, Mrs SPED is saying the SCHOOL doesn't usually pay for this program. I'm > not quite sure WHAT she's getting at. I know they have to pay for ESY if > necessary, and it was HER that brought it up. I never heard of this > praticular program. And it was HER words that said he would fall behind if > > he DIDN'T have ESY. I have already told her in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that I > don't have the money. > I see! I was trying to figure out what her point was exactly. Now, does she realize that the law says the school has to provide ESY at no cost to the parent? Hmmmmm.... Roxanna ò¿ò It makes sense to go up the molehill dressed for the mountain Nan, the Wiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 In a message dated 5/13/03 1:49:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rwinters@... writes: > Roxanna, > > I'll be sending good thoughts your way tomorrow. > > Kathy > Thank you! I'm having a hard time with the IEP stuff as none of the educators so far want to be honest, a rare quality at this program. ugh. Roxanna ôô What doesn't kill us Makes us really mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 > Morning, > If anyone has any ideas I'd be greatful~ I'm SO frustrated! Yesterday, I > spoke to the non-profit advocate who was coming to my IEP meeting to update > her etc,. and she said since my dh is coming, that she won't be able to make > it. Her caseload has gotten so large that now she goes to IEP meetings when > someone is alone. Argh! AAARRGGHHH!! Oh, Johanna, I would feel as if the wind had been knocked out of me if that happened to me!!! How frustrating. I read Roxanna's suggestions and I agree with everything she said. Make your list of what you want and practice ahead of times presenting your argument as to why you believe he needs it. And remember, you're not alone...we're all there with you in spirit. Kathy (((hugs)))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 > > BTW, I have two meetings tomorrow. I have one in the morning for my 3 yo to > discuss his IEP. I have one in the early afternoon at the MRDD to discuss my > 6 yo who is too smart to be autistic enough, lol. I should be looney by the > time I get done! You are not alone! > > Roxanna ö¿ö Roxanna, I'll be sending good thoughts your way tomorrow. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2003 Report Share Posted May 13, 2003 In a message dated 5/13/03 5:05:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kneeleee@... writes: > . Now, does she > realize that the law says the school has to provide ESY at no cost to the > parent? Hmmmmm.... > My take on this is she KNOWS that I know they have to. I think this " alternative " they are offering is a better solution for him than anything else, even though there ARE toher alternatives. And that is her, uh, " motivation " . They are offering to pay a little more for something that is a better program than anything else they currently have access to. MY point is this is cheaper if it's effective for him than paying for whole year alternative ed, which could be our last choice for him. He is getting progressively worse in is behaviors. Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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