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I am changing my address:

anntodd@...

I'm not sure if this is all I need to do to change things?? Let me know if I

need to do more!

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Joan,

How do I get on the mailing list for " Disability Solutions " ? I have

heard such good things about it.

Lori Reaves

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Lori:

I'll put you on the list. All I needed was your address. It's free. :)

Back issues are available at:

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Thanks, Lori.

Joan

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>How do I get on the mailing list for " Disability Solutions " ? I have

>heard such good things about it.

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>Lori Reaves

>4832 N. Dr.

>n, IN 46952

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Folks,

I'm a 42 yr old breast cancer patient (dx 5/98,

mastectomy & chemo (adriamycin, 5FU & cytoxan). had i

known THEN what i know NOW, i would have skipped the

chemo.

currently i'm doing flax oil/cottage cheese & eat

vegetarian, as much raw fruit & veg as i can, plus

juicing (mostly carrot, some beet & /or cabbage juice).

my ca 27-29 antigen test has been rising of late.

here's my question. i've been unable to find any info on

the long-term effects of the particular chemicals in my

chemo protocol. i've read a bit about adriamycin &

effects on the heart, but nothing else. even 2 1/2 yrs

after chemo, i'm sure there are some (temporary or

permanent) effects to my body from " ingesting " those

toxins.

can anyone recommend a book or website to learn about

this? hopefully my diet has enabled my body to " rebuild "

at the cellular level to the extent possible, but would

still like to read about how these chemicals affect the

body LONG TERM.

thanks,

sheryl

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> There are 19 messages in this issue.

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> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. Hulda

> From: Colleen Janssen <colleen@...>

> 2. Magnesium references

> From: Bill Ross <rossviva@...>

> 3. Re: Magnesium references

> From: " Webster " <michelle@...>

> 4. Re: Re: Magnesium references

> From: Bill Ross <rossviva@...>

> 5. Re: Magnesium references

> From: " Webster " <michelle@...>

> 6. Re: Re: lung cancer

> From: " Bonnie Hunter " <lovebon@...>

> 7. Re: Hulda

> From: mbullin98@...

> 8. Chemo/Mallard Ducks/Lucid dreaming, was JR's response to chemo (no,

> this is not a humor break)

> From: Webster <michelle@...>

> 9. Vince's Message

> From: " Cliff Beckwith " <spinner@...>

> 10. message

> From: " Cliff Beckwith " <spinner@...>

> 11. Thanks

> From: " Miz Judy " <mrjau@...>

> 12. Re: Thanks

> From: " Bonnie Hunter " <lovebon@...>

> 13. Fw: Background of Ralph Moss

> From: " Arnold Gore " <arnoldgore@...>

> 14. Pancreatic Cancer

> From: " Cliff Beckwith " <spinner@...>

> 15. Re: Thanks

> From: jrtex@...

> 16. Re: Vince's Message

> From: " VGammill " <ygammil1@...>

> 17. Fw: [FlaxSeedOil] blood pressure

> From: " Miz Judy " <mrjau@...>

> 18. Cayenne Pepper

> From: " Cliff Beckwith " <spinner@...>

> 19. Re: Cayenne Pepper

> From: " Joyce " <savon@...>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 1

> Date: 22 Jul 00 14:02:33 -0700

> From: Colleen Janssen <colleen@...>

> Subject: Hulda

>

> I'm getting really bored with the H. topic, and my " delete finger " is

> starting to itch.

>

> For those of you who may have missed it, my dog did achieve remission in her

> Lymphoma without Chemo, steroids or surgery. While I do not credit Ms.

> with her success, the parasite program was ONE of the many things we did, and

> she achieved full remission at the end of the 6 week program as described for

> pets. The parasite program was the ONLY H. " remedy " used.

>

> We can say, that maybe she never had Lymphoma. The needle aspirate, exam and

> blood work were the only diagnostics used. All of her glands were swollen to

> the size of golf balls, no fever, Neutrophils low, Lymphocytes high. In the

> opinion of two Veterinarians she was a " classic case " . In the opinion of the

> pathologist (one needle aspirate) the diagnosis was " probable malignant

lymphoma

> (high grade), and he requested a repeat of the test, as the cells were

" markedly

> degenerated " . Both of her qualified Veterinarians (DVM) have seen her

regularly

> through the process and witnessed the extreme glandular swelling without any

> signs or proof of infection. I am not aware of any other disease process that

> has these symptoms, so if it was not Lymphoma it was a " brand new " disease.

>

> I would like to comment here and now, that my dog is not a " Labratory Rat " and

> you are free to deny that she has cancer. I will not subject her to any

> invasive testing to clarify her condition for the benefit of others. If you >

want to be skeptical, is there anything that will convince you? I do have the

> experience of seeing glandular swelling return after a month of reduced herbs

> and supplements, and it took ten days to return that gland to normal back on

the

> " full program " . This is evidence that H. 's pet parasite program did not

> get rid of cancer forever... but I hadn't done any " maintence " parasite

program

> during that month either. My dog has never shown any evidence of parasites in

> the opinions of her doctors, but I did give her the parasite herbs again when

> that gland in her neck swelled again. Again, I saw no indication of any harm

> from it.

>

> Among Sweetie's treatments were concepts obtained at

> http://www.cvmbs.colostate.edu/cures for cancer/nutrition.htm The article is well

> documented (three and a half printed pages of references at the end of the

> article), presented by G.K. Ogilvie, DVM Diplomate ACVIM (Specialties of

> Internal Medicine and Oncology) Professor of Oncology and Internal Medicine,

bla > bla bla. I believe he qualifies as a " mainstream, traditional Veterinary

> EXPERT " . You will see if you survive that long article, that Veterinary

> medicine doesn't have the same complications as human medicine. The " big

> business " Veterinary world of oncology is studying alternative and

complementing

> therapies and embracing them with success. Please keep in mind, that dogs are

> " Carnivores " and that their ultimate " cancer diet " may be different than what

> humans should eat.

>

> I do not credit Dr. Ogilvie with Sweetie's success either. There was still

more

> that was done to assist her against her " alleged " Lymphoma, and she deserves

> some credit for her own capabilities. I have no assurance that her glands

won't

> come up again tomorrow (identical to remission created by chemotherapy). The

> difference is that her therapy has her looking and feeling like a puppy at

eight

> years of age, and I have committed no crimes against her along the way. I am

> content that I have done my best for her, and I will have no regrets and lay

no

> blame upon her death, no matter what causes it, or when it comes. She was

> diagnosed just four months ago today, and this has been a wonderful time for

us.

> I have learned to celebrate every day in her company.

>

> And now, I am reminded that she should have some parasite herbs again.

Thanks.

>

> -Colleen

> colleen@...

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 2

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 16:51:23 -0400

> From: Bill Ross <rossviva@...>

> Subject: Magnesium references

>

>

>

> Bill Ross wrote:

>

> As for the protein/magnesium/tumor relationship. Maybe you are right, but it

> sounds too simple to me. Are there any good studies showing

>

> > that most cancer patients are, or have been, deficient in magnesium?

>

> Concerning the references you provided me . I looked through that

post, > and I didn't see one that mentioned magnesium deficiencies and cancer,

which was

> what I asked about above. You

> mentioned Dr. Norman Shealy's work, but didn't give any references about it

and

> cancer/magnesium. Give the references, and I will try to check them out.

>

> Bill Ross

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 3

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:32:12 -0000

> From: " Webster " <michelle@...>

> Subject: Re: Magnesium references

>

> > Give the references, and I will try to

> check them out.

>

> The internet is a big wide place, Bill.

>

> Investigate on your own, I'm sure you will find all that you are

> looking for and more.

>

> I see right through what you are doing here. It's really very

> clever,

> I can say that I'm impressed with your " cloaked " methods of

> " research " .

>

> I don't think that you are interested in finding out anything. And

> further, I'm not interested in sharing my info.

>

> I'm onto your game, Bill.

>

> For anyone else out there in this discussion group, who is being

> entertained by this, rather cute form of electronic entrapment,

> beware.

>

> Sometimes, people just aren't what they seem to be, are they, Bill?

>

> For well-meaning folks, be advised, sometimes it's just not wise to

> throw your pearls before swine.

>

> Becoming and being,

>

>

> PS. This is just for you, " Bill " , how long did you think it would

> take for someone to figure out your game? You are definitely NOT

> " BILL ROSS " , Bwaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaa, nice try though.

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 4

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 17:30:56 -0400

> From: Bill Ross <rossviva@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Magnesium references

>

> ,

>

> Why are you smearing me, attempting to analyze me, and accusing me of sinister

> motives? Let's talk about cancer issues, or not waste time, please. I want

to

> know about magnesium and cancer,

> and you are making a game out of it. I have said before a bit about my

> background. Just who do you believe I am? I'd like to know.

>

> Bill Ross

>

> Webster wrote:

>

> >

> > I see right through what you are doing here. It's really very

> > clever,

> > I can say that I'm impressed with your " cloaked " methods of

> > " research " .

> >

> > I don't think that you are interested in finding out anything. And

> > further, I'm not interested in sharing my info.

> >

> > I'm onto your game, Bill.

> >

> > For anyone else out there in this discussion group, who is being

> > entertained by this, rather cute form of electronic entrapment,

> > beware.

> >

> > Sometimes, people just aren't what they seem to be, are they, Bill?

> >

> > For well-meaning folks, be advised, sometimes it's just not wise to

> > throw your pearls before swine.

> >

> > Becoming and being,

> >

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 5

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:05:01 -0000

> From: " Webster " <michelle@...>

> Subject: Re: Magnesium references

>

>

> > ,

> >

> > Why are you smearing me, attempting to analyze me, and accusing me

> of sinister motives? Let's talk about cancer issues, or not waste

> time, please. I want to know about magnesium and cancer,

> > and you are making a game out of it. I have said before a bit

> about

> my background. Just who do you believe I am? I'd like to know.

> >

> > Bill Ross

>

> You edited out this part of my response...

>

> PS. This is just for you, " Bill " , how long did you think it would

> take for someone to figure out your game? You are definitely NOT

> " BILL ROSS " , Bwaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaa, nice try though.

>

> You are not being fair, " BIll " .

>

> So what is your background exactly?? I think I must have missed that

> post. I read so many.

>

> BTW, I didn't say " sinister " ....just not what you are holding

> yourself

> out to be. Are YOU implying something we should know?

>

> hmmmmm....

>

> Normally, " Bill " , I'm not an overly cautious person, in fact, I'm

> sort of naive myself. I'd love for you to make a liar out of me this

> time. Waiting patiently for that. However, you've tripped some

> " invisible " wires in my luscious brain chemistry, that says, " hmmm " .

>

> Still waiting to hear what your " interest " is in this list?

>

> Being,

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 6

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:11:32 -0400

> From: " Bonnie Hunter " <lovebon@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: lung cancer

>

> I have only been on this list for about two weeks and I think it is very very

> sad that this type of war with personal opinions of each others views is even

> going on. No one person can present any facts about any treatment except for

> personal experience for themselves, or a family member or friend.

>

> It is a very personal choice what a person decides to use, and if it works,

> Thank God and share so that someone else may try it. What method works for one

> may not work for another, what works for anyone is worth trying, and if it

takes

> everything combined together, again Thank God.

>

> As far as I am concerned no religious group has all of the the answers to

God,

> just like no one doctor has all the knowlege about every person and how to

help

> them. All of us are individuals with different body make ups due to past genes

> from many different cultures. My husband also has Chron's Disease and he was

> told that this is a Jewish Disease, he has it, his sister,his niece and his

> daughter has it, yet they want them to be in a study to see if it runs in

> families.

>

> It is not productive to have verbal war fare if your true intent is to offer

> information to help people. All you have to do is share what you have heard

that

> works , not try to choke your opinion down someone else's throats, else you

> appear to be controlling with no intentions to help anyone but your own

> egotistical need to be right.

>

> As a woman , my experiences with doctors is very different than most mens.

> You could talk untill you died, and my experience's are truth to me, and not

> good experiences 80% of the time. Had I not decided to seek other medical

advice

> after reading and talking to others, I would have died with a Tubal Pregnancy,

> my nerves in my right hand would have died from strangulation, and I would

have

> suffered unneeded pain because I had a doctor who did not believe in pain

> medication after he did a hysterectomy. This same doctor failed to tell me

> about, or give me hormones after surgery, and my body went crazy for years >

before I found out the reason. They say hormones are not safe for woman, maybe

> not, but my quality of life without them is not worth living . My personal

> choice is to take them and have as much quality of life with the life I have

> left. I really don't give a dam what science say's, I know my body better than

> anyone

else....................................................................

>

> I personaly want to hear all sides so I can try and get my husband what will

> work for him, I don't need anyone's need to be right. I find it insulting

that

> anyone would think that everyone on this list is so ignorant that they will

not

> weigh what is presented. There are to many influences in each individuals

lives

> to pretend what worked for one person will work for everyone.

> My grandmother used peach tree leaves that were beaten into a pulp for

> infection, it worked and it drew out infection, yet you do not hear anyone

using

> this old method today. There have been many old time remedies that worked but

> have been lost due to our modern day Science, then they suddenly announce that

> they came up with a new cure for something that was known hundreds of years

> ago.

>

> If science cannot prove God, how can we dare to put all of our faith in

Science.

> The Bible tells us that all man will ever need for his cures are already here,

> in the roots, the leaves, etc. Please share what you know that has worked for

> you or someone else you know, my husband and I both are intelligent enough to

> decide for ourselves if we want to use it or not.

>

> This is suppose to be a free country, and freedom to me is personal choices

> without goverment, or Science deciding for us. I am not lame enough to think

> that I wouldn't try anything and everything to save someone I love. Science

and

> doctors have been proven wrong to many times for me to put all of my faith in

> what they say.

> I don't have a need to be right, I just want people to share what they have

> learned without the egotistical debates that serves absolutly no one. Only God

> has all of the answers, not man!

>

> Please allow those of us who are searching seriously all avenues to help

> ourselves, or someone we love. Spare us endless debates and state what you

know

> and allow the other's to do the same. You are taking up valuable time and

space

> that hurts people more than it ever could help. This list sounds like Junior

> High when it is suppose to serve very very ill people. Reading some of the

> messages would drain a well persons strength, God forbide what it does to

> someone sick researching for themselves.

>

> Bonnie H.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 7

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:21:31 EDT

> From: mbullin98@...

> Subject: Re: Hulda

>

> In a message dated 07/22/2000 5:03:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> colleen@... writes:

>

> << Do not credit Dr. Ogilvie with Sweetie's success either. There was still

> more that was done to assist her against her " alleged " Lymphoma, and she

> deserves some credit for her own capabilities. I have no assurance that her

> glands won't come up again tomorrow (identical to remission created by

> chemotherapy). The difference is that her therapy has her looking and

> feeling like a puppy at eight years of age, and I have committed no crimes

> against her along the way. I am content that I have done my best for her,

> and I will have no regrets and lay no blame upon her death, no matter what

> causes it, or when it comes. She was diagnosed just four months ago today,

> and this has been a wonderful time for us. I have learned to celebrate every

> day in her company.

>

> And now, I am reminded that she should have some parasite herbs again.

> Thanks.

>

> -Colleen >>

> What All did you give your dog, I have lost two dogs to cancer and Now have

> another one with Maybe Bone Cancer, close to her spine next to her tail. I am

> Giving her Red Ellagic acid pills and flax seed oil with Cottage Cheese. The

> Doctor says he don't want to operate on her

>

> All your help will be appreciated.

>

> Mike

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 8

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:55:59 -0500

> From: Webster <michelle@...>

> Subject: Chemo/Mallard Ducks/Lucid dreaming, was JR's response to chemo (no,

> this is not a humor break)

>

> he he he, he.... JR, you aren't the only one who got an earful when they

> talked to him. How old is he? And at what age is it, that you don't care

> who is listening to what you are saying? (I'm calming searching my sock

> drawer for the REALLY purple scarf for the ballet tonight)

>

> I suppose that you have to look at the " facts " that he WAS burned down.

> Now, what would the point of that be? As for him being a nut case, be

> assured he has good company. Don't you think this internet is a strange

> place??

>

> Do you have a copy of his book? Just curious.

>

> As for wrecking credibility, that is easily destroyed. So, are we looking

> for perfect people to put forth the perfect cancer cure? Hmmm, maybe it

> will be bunches of people putting together some sense of all this

> information in some coherent fashion. We're getting closer and closer to

> THAT being truer, and it will be, soon enough.

>

> As for Hulda, parasite cleansing didn't originate with her, she just

> popularized that. The same is true for , regarding eating raw liver

> and colonics, although he'll go down in the annals (still not sure if

> that's a really good idea yet) as his claim to fame. Before the white

> man, the Indians have been eating raw adrenals of buffalo fresh from the

> kill to give courage to the brave initiates of the hunt.

>

> So, if being respectable, credible, licensed and properly credentialed is

> what it takes to get the cure out, lots are gonna be dead soon.

>

> JR, I share your quest for the cure. For " me " the answer lies in the

> unique frequency of the individual. That's why I don't think that

> " science " will ever be satisfied with energetic healing. Just as it's

> impossible to duplicate a person, it would be difficult to duplicate their

> energetics, as well. We can form " templates " and make some gross

> generalizations, but ultimately the EXACT cure, is going to be precise in

> frequency/energy.

>

> Oh, I know that people hate it when I talk like this, but it's true....

> just what shade of red is it, that makes your heart beat faster?? Maybe

> we'll all be safer if we just avoid that color, right, JR?

>

> Hey, JR, I remember being in a calculus class in college. I had the

> weirdest dreams. Honest to Pete, I would DREAM the answers in the

> strangest ways. Happened in my COBOL classes too. I would look at lines

> and lines of code, and nothing would gel. My head would hit the pillow,

> and WHAMMO... I got it.

>

> That's how discoveries are made. After becoming so familiar with the turf,

> that your eyes start to blur and water.

>

> I say, we should visit more workshops like what Ken Page is putting out

> (http://www.kenpage.com) and figure out how to lucid dream better.

>

> The answer is definitely out there, but it's not going to materialize in

> the middle of calculus class, or the day of the quiz.

>

> True healing is much subtler and quieter. I know I would have never

> understood what I just wrote, if my mother were still alive. I can see

> things now, in ways that I never understood them before.

>

> Being and becoming,

>

>

> PS... I know that sig is driving some of you crazy, but indulge me in my

> wanton self-discovery and creative streak I'm in.

>

> PPS. JR, I know that I probably didn't respond to your original thought,

> but I couldn't show much more in the way of restraint, and still keep my

> " credibility " . And I still haven't got my mortgage yet, BTW. It really

> sucks not to be a part of the SYSTEM, with all it's slave perks.

>

> PPPS. Oh you mean the " cure monger " with the Mallard Duck initials behind

> his name who told me that lithotripsy would get rid of my kidney stones??

> THAT MALLARD DUCK? Who I fired, and fixed the problem my own damn self?

> Yes, I got desparate and massively dosed myself with hydrangea (nearly when

> out of my mind with dementia) and magnesium. Guess what? No more kidney

> stone. GEeeeezzz. If I had paid cash for that " procedure " , I would have

> sued, because it FAILED.

>

>

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> jrtex@...

> Subject: Re: Re: Chemo -- Would list subscribers please comment

>

> Sorry but I talked to Dr Kelley at

> length about his treatments (when he was

> practicing), his medications and sources for

> them, and his thoughts on Dr. ...and

> then I asked him for a couple of references

> from among those " thousands " of cures... and

> he answered... " those damned Jews destroyed

> them... " I asked for further explanation and he

> said they were behind burning down his house

> in Texas where he kept all his records. The guy

> is a nut case to say the least. Another example

> of when it gets down to the nut cutting (as we

> texans claim) there is no substance to rely on.

> So one must be very careful what and who

> one quotes for verification purposes or they

> can easily lose credibility. I've spent hundreds,

> maybe thousands of hours hunting down

> cancer cures and people who have used them

> with some but all too few actual positive results... just enough to know

> there PROBABLY

> are some but hard to prove on their own. This

> has a lot to do with standard medical treatment

> getting mixed up in most of them making it

> difficult to determine which did what. Of course

> a proper combination of both can't hurt but even

> that's hard to decide on since most doctors

> don't know, therefore don't approve of this

> combo and the poor patient often mixes

> without telling his doctor....on and on... So

> be careful who is quoted..many of these

> " cure mongers " waddle when they walk and

> quack when they talk. Best, JR

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 9

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:22:40 -0400

> From: " Cliff Beckwith " <spinner@...>

> Subject: Vince's Message

>

> Dear Vince,

>

> How my heart bleeds for you and your family!!

>

> I want to comment further tomorrow. One needs to cool down after reading

> something like that.

>

> Over the last nine years I must confess that my respect for the Oncology

> industry and most Oncologists would have to go a long way up to get to zero

> and things like this strengthen that concept. And we talk about QUACKS???

>

> Dear G-d! Help our nation!! And I mean that from the bottom of my heart!

>

> The Canaanites and Israelis sacrificed children to the Firegod, Molech. We

> are sacrificing children on the Altar of profit and we sit here and accept

> it. Perhaps, we too, are too weak and small to prevent it, but I would hate

> to be in the shoes of these men when they stand before G-d!!

>

> Cliff B

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 10

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 18:33:26 -0400

> From: " Cliff Beckwith " <spinner@...>

> Subject: message

>

> Hi Vince,

>

> Sorry, I thought this was your son. I realized it wasn't ,

> but sent the message accidentally while trying to correct it.

>

> That does not alter my feeling. How terrible our system has become!

>

> Cliff

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

> Message: 11

> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:43:59 -0400

> From: " Miz Judy " <mrjau@...>

> Subject: Thanks

>

> Thanks Bonnie Hunter, for your time. It was worth the effort you took to put

> some people straight.

>

> I too am one that cured my own melanoma from the old-time remedies. And have

> been staying healthy-by watching what I eat and don't eat, and by taking

> alternative's, for what they are worth to me. And like you I've chosen for

> myself what I wanted to do, that I knew was best for me.

>

> True some debates are only great, if they serve a purpose..but arguing about

> cures, or what helps us to ease our pains, is only causing some of us to

wonder

> .. to whom to believe on this list anymore. Like you I came to this list,

> because I was asked to come on, to search and to write of things that I knew

had

> helped me, and others that I've known that has had some kind of cancer. I've

> seen many good people leave, because of the confusion. I keep wondering lately

> whom really is in charge here of this site? And why the owner don't step in

and

> voice opinion, of the laws and rules for having this site to use. It certainly

> gives this site a bad reputation when we are not seeing results, but debates.

>

> And for you that have asked me about Jarrett, whom has not cared to eat

> food..Well God again is undertaking. This morning he decided to eat the

raisins,

> and drank his milk. Later he took from the table a tuna-sandwich and nibbled a

> bite. Laid it down and went back to the raisins. Our daughter said, the last

> couple of nights, he prefers dry cereal, and than milk. But at least he is

> sleeping better through the night. Tonight they are out to dinner. They will

put

> food on his plate, if he wants it fine, and if not just as fine. The doctor's

> report said there is thousand of children like this. They have to find in

their

> own way as to what they like and don't like to eat. That children's taste

buds

> are all different. But usually changes as the child matures.

> Again the cells in ones body is another important issue as are our genes.

And

> most likely from Jarrett's, fathers side of the family, since a grandfather >

wouldn't touch many foods place in front of him and he was a grown man. Then on

> my side, was my own father. He wouldn't hardly ever eat fruit. When he did it

> was maybe a bite. And water was his dislike. But he would drink lemon and lime

> water..or spring water when he hauled it home. He preferred coffee..blacker

than

> the ace of spade. And he lived to be 81 , and the only thing he had wrong was

> his lungs that gave out from the working in coal, steel mills during the World

> War 2. Not for the lack of water, or the lack of fruits, ( but I wished we'd

> known then, all about cell protection )..to often we learn about some cures to

> late in life. My father had learned to late about curing his lungs, and that

> Grape-juice was good for him, or that he could eat all the watermelon he

wanted,

> and that the 8 glasses of water would have helped clean out his inners..but he

> was very sure.. that parasites had to be washed out of his inners, at least >

monthly, from his body. Looking back I now wonder why he knew that some things

> were good for him and others things, like many of us still neglect, because

...

> we're not so sure. As for myself, I shall continue to research for myself.

And

> I'd advise others to do the same. Take the time to search for ways to help

> yourself in healing. And then don't argue with someone else, as to what they

> have found to work for them..who are we to judge?

>

> I never agree with everything that comes across this site, but I don't write

> back opening to get my answers. I go directly to the horse-mouth. It is

however

> hard to write to some of you a personal letter, when you don't send a private

> email to do so. So then I ignore, and delete, as soon as I see from whom is

> posting.

>

> To the other kind lady that wrote recently..I and my husband, are not all

veggie

> people..We grew up on farms that raised our own cattle, and food. We tried to

> stay organic. And canned most of what we grew. But after we stopped farming

some > ten years ago..our habit of eating changed somewhat. Sorry to say,

because we

> started to buy from the markets foods, that were not in our opinion.. fit to

> feed to a dog. After I had cancer, I begin to search to find again farmers

that

> sold organic food..no such luck much in Holmes County. So I went back to Amish

> that had their own organic crops and gardens. In fact tonight soon as I send

> this letter. We're having green beans, and another dish of creamed

cauliflower,

> carrots, peppers, zucchini. And yes one piece of Bar-B-Cued spar-rib..and a

> glass of water. Last night we had macaroni and cheese..night before it was a

> rice dish, with squash, and flavored with a ham-hock, broth..that came from a

> cousin that raises cattle organically.

>

> Sincerely, one of your Best Friends, Judy

>

> My Web site is http://my.treeway.com/WeCare4_U , This was written in

remembrance

> of our Son Aulston..Based on his " Wild Flowers " and the way God is still

healing

> us in mind,soul and body.

>

>

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> Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 20:26:04 -0400

> From: " Bonnie Hunter " <lovebon@...>

> Subject: Re: Thanks

>

> Judy my e-mail address is lovebon@... send me yours if you don't mind.

>

> Love and Light Bonnie

>

> Re: [FlaxSeedOil] blood pressure

>

>

> Several folks have asked for my blood pressure concoction... I can't

> remember where I got it from!!! Duh!!! I keep looking, and will post, maybe

> it came from my husband's homeopathic friend... not sure... but I think,

> that using my common sense... (hello, hope I still have some) that it was

> around 1/4 teaspoon of cayenne, one tablespoon of honey and some lemon

> juice, mix it up and add more honey/lemon to taste... then take a little

> spoon and just take little bits at a time! I think I can remember taking a

> few hours to eat it... just licked it off the spoon now and then... and my

> MIL did include raw garlic too... but on salads and stuff, at least two

> cloves a day.

>

> Thats the best I can do for now... maybe plug in cayenne pepper in those

> search engines, someone might find info to support this!

>

> hugs,

> amy

>

>

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Try RiSoTriene, as I mentioned in my last post. It helped cure a woman

with silicon poisoning from her silicon breast implant.

:) Joy

P.S. Does a Cc to cures for canceregroups get posted to this list? I

haven't seen any of the 10 or so postings I've sent, and wondered whether

the problem is on my end or yours.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 sherylmorales@... wrote:

> Folks,

>

> I'm a 42 yr old breast cancer patient (dx 5/98,

> mastectomy & chemo (adriamycin, 5FU & cytoxan). had i

> known THEN what i know NOW, i would have skipped the

> chemo.

>

> currently i'm doing flax oil/cottage cheese & eat

> vegetarian, as much raw fruit & veg as i can, plus

> juicing (mostly carrot, some beet & /or cabbage juice).

>

> my ca 27-29 antigen test has been rising of late.

>

> here's my question. i've been unable to find any info on

> the long-term effects of the particular chemicals in my

> chemo protocol. i've read a bit about adriamycin &

> effects on the heart, but nothing else. even 2 1/2 yrs

> after chemo, i'm sure there are some (temporary or

> permanent) effects to my body from " ingesting " those

> toxins.

>

> can anyone recommend a book or website to learn about

> this? hopefully my diet has enabled my body to " rebuild "

> at the cellular level to the extent possible, but would

> still like to read about how these chemicals affect the

> body LONG TERM.

>

> thanks,

> sheryl

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Dear Sheryl:

Had to write you as I was 42 when I was first diagnosed with breast

cancer and had 4 sessions of chemo before quiting and then going on the

macro diet. It returned and in 88 I did the radiation and then began a long

time of doing all kinds of alternative things. I have taken 400 mg. of coq10

for heart protection and that would be a good idea for you probably(cheapest

I have found is at Sams). There were plenty of changes that the chemo put me

thru in just the four sessions I had. Most were from the fact that it put me

into menopause overnight so to speak and that was very difficult(e-mail me

privately if you want the details) also I suffered bone loss very quickly.

You should do everything that is important to prevent osteoporosis

immediately as that has been an ongoing problem for me. Begin some sort of

weight training so those bones get a good work out. At the time I was

diagnosed in 1985 my Drs. knew nothing about the Osteoporosis thing nor were

they helpful with the menopause thing. Tomorrow is my 58th birthday and tho

I had a recurrance in my neck nodes a year ago and had Hyperthermia, a

little radiation, took a breast cancer vaccine for a year, and do multiple

alternative things including the flaxoil/cc thing. I am doing great and feel

great. There's hardly anything out there I have not had some experience with

but just picked out the ones that made sense and that I could afford to do.

I am vegetarian of course and most of the time I am vegan except for the

necessity of cottage cheese. The best to you and write me if you want more

info. Love Judy Hoffman

Re: [FlaxSeedOil] blood pressure

> >

> >

> > Several folks have asked for my blood pressure concoction... I can't

> > remember where I got it from!!! Duh!!! I keep looking, and will post,

maybe

> > it came from my husband's homeopathic friend... not sure... but I think,

> > that using my common sense... (hello, hope I still have some) that it

was

> > around 1/4 teaspoon of cayenne, one tablespoon of honey and some lemon

> > juice, mix it up and add more honey/lemon to taste... then take a little

> > spoon and just take little bits at a time! I think I can remember

taking a

> > few hours to eat it... just licked it off the spoon now and then... and

my

> > MIL did include raw garlic too... but on salads and stuff, at least two

> > cloves a day.

> >

> > Thats the best I can do for now... maybe plug in cayenne pepper in those

> > search engines, someone might find info to support this!

> >

> > hugs,

> > amy

> >

> >

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trish, can you go into more detail about what your doing with jodie and the

system you devised with kathy's help....i hope i read that right?????:-) i

live in a very backwards county who really doesnt support

parents......basically they still believe our kids with ds cant function, let

alone read or write.....so as parents we file complaints, homeschool, b*tch,

moan and groan and nothing happens.....some of us have been to due process

and mediation and nothing happens....... so we get very discouraged......i

have friends who can vouch for this....... my daughter is nine and i know she

can read, it may be site and memory, but she can read all ninety disney movie

flash cards i have made........lmao maybe strange, but we gotta start

somewhere......the school on the otherhand gives no support.....i have looked

at edmark, love and learning, the other one with symbols and site words i

think maybe by mayer-johsnon, but am not in the position to shell out

hundreds of dollars..... please share any ideas with us.....t hanks leah,

desp, mom

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My birthday was yesterday and my grandson, Andrrew, sang " Happy Birthday " to

me, only one line but I could understand him!!!! He will be 3 in July and has

therapy since October 3 times a week. Twice one-on-one and once with a class

of 4 others.We see a big improvement. Like Gloria's son, he too answered

" two " when someone asked him his name. He said " Me two " Even though the

answer was wrong for thequestion, we are thankful for every word and his

interaction with other children.

Dorothy

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nancy wrote:

>I would also like to point out the " wasting disease " , neurological in

>origin and another spongiform encephalopathy which has been detected in elk

>and deer in the U.S. Hunters were warned not to eat any animals they

>killed and I have not had venison, which I love, since last summer.

We have several Aussie members who eat kangaroo meat (very low in fat).

Obviously Australia is very well separated from the other countries and

probably not at risk; however with the world so small nowadays (and the U.S.

also thinking it was immune) perhaps the Australians should consider that

game meat is vulnerable.

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