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In a message dated 3/15/03 11:28:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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> Does anyone have any suggestions for me about explaining to other children

> why my son doesn't always behave, but why they still need too. My son is 4

> yo and I babysit another 4 yo girl. When my son acts up she often does too

> which makes matters worse. I feel bad for getting on her all the time

> about such things because she doesn't seem to understand why my son doesn't

> get lectured at as much. I try to explain that he doesn't always

> understand what I tell him to do, but she does and needs to listen and obey

> and show my son by example. Any suggestions here? Thank you.

>

That is really hard. I think it depends on the situation as to what you

would say. I would still tell my ds to behave and why he should behave even

if he isn't following through completely. The attempt should probably be

enough to satisfy the little girl. And then I would just tell her that he

still has to learn a lot of this stuff that she knows already.

Roxanna ôô

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Makes us really mean.

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Thinking of you all Fania and wonderful news on M

Take Care

Sue

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> Please understand that I have not been posting too much lately and not

referring to many many of your posts, despite reading them , I am simply

stressed out.

>

> F

> " You can only go halfway into the darkest forest.

> Then you are coming out the other way. "

> Chinese Proverb

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<<<I also agree with " why do we send our kids there? " . That's why we've

decided to homeschool. >

I consider it every year, and every year, in the end, we decide that it is

important for them to be in 'children's society'. then we once again realize

what s going on in the school, and we think : this is not the " society " we want

for them...... tehn teh cycle goes again......

<<<<I'm glad that the " open " school is open-minded. Willingness is always

nice. However, as a parent whose HFA child has been in 4 different

classroom setting in under 12 months, I must say that a willing,

established school would obviously be better. One reason that some of

the various environments didn't work out for my daughter over the last

year was that the programs were just getting started and were somewhat

disorganized..

yes, i expect that might happne, which is why i did not enroll them right on

the spot......... however, if they are willing to learn about AS, i would take

the initiative to help them devise teh kind of program kids with AS need....in

no way would I be less involved, on the contrary.

<<<< Also, of course, it is best if you can go and observe

the existing classroom to get the best possible idea of whether it is

right for M.>>>>>>

therei s no existing classroom,. they are opening the school in Sept.

<<< I know that the sensory environment is very important>

the physical place is ok, I have seen it.

<<<You have hard choices and I'm hoping for the best for you.>

thank you so much for your important input, . I will certainly take it

into consideration before making the decision I have about 2 months to decided.

teh problem is that teh new open school is planning activities fo rthe kids to

meet during the summer, and I wouldn;t want teh cnildren to go and then not go

to that school or vice versa....

F

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i wrote some things to you where you see a *******************************

We moved last year in the middle of the school year. At our old place,

had door-to-door transportation by school bus. She tells me that he

will no

longer have that service once we move because we were moving to a dead-end

road in a cul-de-sac. She says " We don't like taking busses down there. If

the

other parents see a bus going down there then we will have a problem because

they will want their children picked up down there as well " . (The other

children near me were walking an average of 3 blocks to a bus stop). I told

her the

other children are not my problem at this time, but is.

*********************************I love it!!!!!!****************

you're a fiesty one - aren't you?? ha ha ha ha

besides, why can't your front sidewalk be the bus pick up - for the whole

street?

Then the other parents won't have anything to complain about.

***************************************************************

His IEP

states door-to-door pick up and drop off " . She then continued to tell me

that

would probably do well with the added responsibility of being able to

walk

to the bus stop. So I told her " This is the same child when asked to go get

his shoes out of his closet and put them on.....15 minutes later the shoes

are

still not on because he became side-tracked on the was from the living room

to his bedroom closet by a toy. When he shows being able to accomplish

simple

requests such as that, then MAYBE he will be able to be given bigger

responsibilities " .

******************Good answer*******************************************

At one point in the conversation she said " Well, I just want to

know who's issue this really is. Is it yours or 's? " I replied to her

by

saying " Actually this is your issue because YOU are supposed to be providing

this service to which is written out in his IEP and you are not " .

********************GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!********************

Also, a very good comeback, if i do say so myself. LOL!!!!

*******************************************************************

She

said she would call me back. Instead the director of the bus garage called

me

the next day saying he had been given direction to start picking up

door to door.

So, as I mentioned above. He gets what he needs but never without these

types of arguments/fights. And I didn't even type out the whole conversation

due

to length on here.

******************************************

sounds like you have everything under control.

we are lucky that we are getting good in the younger grades - by the time we

get to the older grades - we will be professionals. ha ha ha ha

I have a 6 yr old boy with AS/ADHD/OCD tendencies - Bradley

and a 5 yr old girl with a spitfire attitude and cute as a button - Allyson.

Take care

Dawn

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<<<<<<At one point in the conversation she said " Well, I just want to know

who's issue this really is. Is it yours or 's? " I replied to her by saying

" Actually this is your issue because YOU are supposed to be providing this

service to which is written out in his IEP and you are not " .

WOW! i am impressed! can I borrow your tongue for my next meeting with the

school ??

Fania

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<<<<<<<

wow!! Your ds had such motivation and is turning into quite the advocate .

Great news!>

yes, well, teh good news is he did fulfil his par to fthe agreement about

dancing class and helping first grade, but besides that he was awfull today at

school...... ;-(

<<<<<<Herman??? hahaha cute name - who picked that out??>>

the only one who could: dh!

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<<<<<<<When was about 8 he got ready for school one day. He was wearing

his sister's hot pink socks (he's colour blind).>>>>>

, at least he has a good excuse. My sun simply LOVES pink.

although last year (age 10) he realized he was being laughed at becasue of

that, and he stopped. he will still wear things with pink if the pink is

" disguised " as he calls it (part of a design).

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HI Kathleen

I suspect that even with Aspergers there are no two kids totally alike.

My son was not diagnosed until his 2 & 1/2 yr son was diagnosed two weeks ago.

ADam is now 33 and all we were told when he was little was that he was hyperactive. There was next to no resources for us 33 yrs old....some speech and some occupational therapy and a parenting class with the Red Book......we fought to get him into special ed for the smaller classes when he was 8 and then fought to get him back into regular classes when we felt he was ready for grade 7. He was a great teenager, he has a good marriage , is a reliable hard worker and supports the family well enough to own a nice home and he is a great dad.

I am not worried about my grandson because with all the resources available now he will be fine.

I think my point is, perhaps some kids need disability but I am sure many many go on to live full rewarding self supporting lives.....take heart and have faith in your daughter and be her advocate.

Best of luck

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brenda

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hi hun i am shell mum of six two with autism.one with traits one with lbd

my children have had so many dx over the years you could go through the alphabet

..

my son with asperegrs was first dxed adhd then hfs then as after a fight.

if i can help in any way please let me know

love shell

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If she needs OT and PT, I would suggest you have her evaluated at school and see if you can get those services provided at the school as well. Sure, why not!

RoxannaAutism Happens

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My 11 year old daughter was just diagnosed a few months ago with AS. Two years ago it was ADHD and a non verbal learning disability. She just started OT and PT last month because she also has Sensory Integration issues. The pieces of the puzzle are now fitting together for me. I was never totally comfortable with just the ADHD. There was always other things she did that made it seem more than that. (i.e, always turned the radio off, flapped her hands when excited, trouble playing with kids her own age, couldn't tie her shoes or ride a bike till she was 10 yrs old, etc) The psychiatrist just put her on Zoloft for her anxieties and fears......this was a last resort because she is not enjoying life because she worries too much. She also will be getting a speech/language evaluation to check her pragmatic speech. She takes everything you say literal and sometimes doesn't understand what you are saying to her. My question is for anybody who has gone thru this........My sister suggests I apply for medical assistance for the OT/PT visits that will occur after the max has been met on our insurance. A co-worker has a son who has AS and he is on disability and she says I should apply for disability for her because she will also need that. I'm a bit confused because I don't really see my daughter as being disabled.....she just does things differently and some things take her longer than the average child. Can anyone tell me if this is the route they took or is it something I should be considering now? She has an IEP in school and I'm also wondering if she should be receiving OT/PT in school once it starts back in September. Thanks for any help anyone can give me on this subject.

Kathy

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Yes...so sad....and so ignorant....I just have been having a difficult time getting myself motivated to do anything. I will write a piece to him ....he should walk in our shoes or our children's shoes....maybe we should invite him over to be a shadow in one of our homes...to spend a day watching our children....let's see what he has to say then!!! And, then he can go to school with them and then try and teach them one day.....he may think a little differently.....

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From: Debra Balke <dlbalke@...>Subject: ( ) Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 5:42 PM

No one is up in arms yet over Savage's comments? See Google news.....:)

I figured I would see about 100 angry posts by now.

May he walk in our shoes.....

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