Re: Very odd--Dana & others??

[Guest guest]

i am sure the allergy a helps heal the gut.

gfcf does not help heal the gut, i would look at some scd exclusions

like potatoes, corn, soy(NOT diary), rice so that you don't fall

inot the gfcf trap again.

collagen(from slow cooked roast juice NOT store bought gelatine) and

whey powder/paste will also help heal the gut.

its hard to understand that gfcf keeps the gut damaged.

> I recently posted about my daughter getting chronic

> Viatamin A toxicity. Well, she is recovering, and some strange

things

> have occured. She had high measles titers, adn we must have lowered

> them, because she is talking a TON!! Her eye contact and social are

> also a TON better, and she is doing great at school. Her teachers

say

> she is a different girl. Here is the odd part. We have had her GFCF

> for a year, after she tested allergic to wheat and dairy, as well as

> soy. During the toxicity she did not eat anything for 2-weeks,

> because she felt so bad. She just drank her rice milk. Last week,

she

> asked my wife for Goldfish, which we had in the house for my son. My

> wife was so worried about her not eating, that she gave her some.

> That was one of her favorite foods before GFCF, but she had never

> asked for it since. Well, she has been eating them for the last 5-

> days, and her stools are still fine, and there are no strange

> behaviors. I can not imagine that her food allergies have changed,

> and surely her gut has not healed that quickly. The goldfish have

> soy, wheat, and dairy, basically the worst possible thing!! I am at

a

> loss to explain this, and I am not sure how to proceed with other

> food items. Anyone have a similar experience, or some suggestions??

> Thanks in advance.--Tod

[Guest guest]

--Thanks for the reply. You are right, it is hard to understand

that GFCF is not helping the gut. Are ou saying that if the gut has

been healed some by the Vitamin A, that would explain her being able

to tolerate wheat? Also, she is not wanting to eat much of anything

else. That seems like a bad sign??

-- In , " andrew " <alevin@i...> wrote:

>

>

> i am sure the allergy a helps heal the gut.

>

> gfcf does not help heal the gut, i would look at some scd

exclusions

> like potatoes, corn, soy(NOT diary), rice so that you don't fall

> inot the gfcf trap again.

>

> collagen(from slow cooked roast juice NOT store bought gelatine)

and

> whey powder/paste will also help heal the gut.

>

> its hard to understand that gfcf keeps the gut damaged.

>

>

>

>

>

> > I recently posted about my daughter getting chronic

> > Viatamin A toxicity. Well, she is recovering, and some strange

> things

> > have occured. She had high measles titers, adn we must have

lowered

> > them, because she is talking a TON!! Her eye contact and social

are

> > also a TON better, and she is doing great at school. Her teachers

> say

> > she is a different girl. Here is the odd part. We have had her

GFCF

> > for a year, after she tested allergic to wheat and dairy, as well

as

> > soy. During the toxicity she did not eat anything for 2-weeks,

> > because she felt so bad. She just drank her rice milk. Last week,

> she

> > asked my wife for Goldfish, which we had in the house for my son.

My

> > wife was so worried about her not eating, that she gave her some.

> > That was one of her favorite foods before GFCF, but she had never

> > asked for it since. Well, she has been eating them for the last 5-

> > days, and her stools are still fine, and there are no strange

> > behaviors. I can not imagine that her food allergies have changed,

> > and surely her gut has not healed that quickly. The goldfish have

> > soy, wheat, and dairy, basically the worst possible thing!! I am

at

> a

> > loss to explain this, and I am not sure how to proceed with other

> > food items. Anyone have a similar experience, or some

suggestions??

> > Thanks in advance.--Tod

[Guest guest]

> them, because she is talking a TON!! Her eye contact and social are

> also a TON better, and she is doing great at school.

My son had improvements with social and language after high dose

vitamin A protocol and other anti-viral.

> asked my wife for Goldfish, which we had in the house for my son. My

> wife was so worried about her not eating, that she gave her some.

> That was one of her favorite foods before GFCF, but she had never

> asked for it since. Well, she has been eating them for the last 5-

> days, and her stools are still fine, and there are no strange

> behaviors.

My kids lost their food problems with ALA, but your child might be

different and lose food problems with anti-viral.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>>Also, she is not wanting to eat much of anything

> else. That seems like a bad sign??

It might be a bad sign, watch for regression.

Goldfish crackers do feed yeast.

But, it also might be that she is finally happy that she can eat

them, and wants to eat a LOT before you take them away again.

Good luck.

Dana

[Guest guest]

-My kids lost their food problems with ALA, but your child might be

> different and lose food problems with anti-viral.

>

> Dana

When you say they lost their food problems, so you mean they do not

have to be GFCF? The thing about my daughter is that her urinary

peptide test did not show any problems, but her allergy panel showed

the allergy to wheat and dairy. Maybe that is why we never saw much

change on GFCF.

[Guest guest]

> > Dana

>

> When you say they lost their food problems, so you mean they do not

> have to be GFCF?

My kids have no dietary restrictions at all, and they don't need

enzymes either.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dear Tod,

We put our son, now 8, on the GFCF diet for 4 years. After reading

DeFelice's book about enzymes, which made so much sense to me,

I ordered some enzymes from Houston and during Christmas break, we

started introducing foods with milk and gluten, etc. We were a bit

hestitant about it, but went ahead. We saw no regression whatsoever.

We are now waiting on lab results from Great Plains to see if the

peptide levels are similar to when he was on the diet (his

caseomorphin levels were slightly elevated even while on the diet).

I made a pact with my son that he still needed to eat a well

balanced, healthy diet, including his vegetables. He is not a picky

eater. His last gut permeability test still showed a leaky gut and

he never showed any allergies to wheat, gluten, milk, etc. But his

peptide levels for caseomorphin were always high, as well as

antibodies to milk (Dr. Vojdani's lab).

We have him on high levels of vitamins and minerals, the ones

described in Dr. McCandless's book and my theory is that maybe after

all these years of supplements and diets, his gut has healed

somewhat, allowing him to tolerate the normal diet. I will not stop

the enyzems until we finish chelation with DMSA as per Andy Cutler's

protocoll.

I hope that you can also keep your daughter on a healthy diet. We

let our son have cookies and chips, etc. but he has a lot of healthy

food as well and we avoid MSG and aspartame.

Kind regards,

Liz

> I recently posted about my daughter getting chronic

> Viatamin A toxicity. Well, she is recovering, and some strange

things

> have occured. She had high measles titers, adn we must have lowered

> them, because she is talking a TON!! Her eye contact and social are

> also a TON better, and she is doing great at school. Her teachers

say

> she is a different girl. Here is the odd part. We have had her GFCF

> for a year, after she tested allergic to wheat and dairy, as well

as

> soy. During the toxicity she did not eat anything for 2-weeks,

> because she felt so bad. She just drank her rice milk. Last week,

she

> asked my wife for Goldfish, which we had in the house for my son.

My

> wife was so worried about her not eating, that she gave her some.

> That was one of her favorite foods before GFCF, but she had never

> asked for it since. Well, she has been eating them for the last 5-

> days, and her stools are still fine, and there are no strange

> behaviors. I can not imagine that her food allergies have changed,

> and surely her gut has not healed that quickly. The goldfish have

> soy, wheat, and dairy, basically the worst possible thing!! I am

at a

> loss to explain this, and I am not sure how to proceed with other

> food items. Anyone have a similar experience, or some suggestions??

> Thanks in advance.--Tod