? does DTaP singledose contain...

[Guest guest]

Is that diptheria, tetanus, pertussis?

If so, please have the mom educate herself on all the other possible horrible

vaccine side effects. DPT has been known to have many side effects. There was

once a group called DPT--Dissatisfied Parents Together. Some of these parents

lost children due to the vaccine.

thimerisol is not the only thing to worry about with vaccinations.

[Guest guest]

A mom I know asked me:

I was wondering if you can give me a bit of info on the safety of

this shot. [other non-autistic son] had RSV when he was 10 days old

and we are worried about him getting respiratory viruses this year.

I checked with the doctor and the DTaP vaccine that they use is a

single vial for each patient. They said that there is no Thimerosol

or perservatives. Do you have any recommendation? We were holding

off on all vaccines till we can do more research, but pertussis

really worries me....

So of course I wrote back with a lot of information but the one piece

I don't know is, do the current DTaP single dose vials contain any

thimerosal as a " stabilizer " . (like the fluzone saying it is

preservative free, yet the website says it lists thimerosal as a

stabilizer!).

Does anyone know? I told the mom to run a titer before even worrying

about making the decision, but I'd like to be able to tell her what

is in the single dose Dtap's. Any help appreciated!

W

[Guest guest]

the most intelligent thing i have read about vaccines is this

From " Shirley's Wellness Cafe " :

" Vaccinations: Will Veterinary Schools in North America Be Changing

Vaccination Protocols? "

" Recent editions of the Senior Dogs Project's newsletter have

reported on the ever-broadening trend of eliminating vaccinations for

adult dogs, except for rabies, where required by state law. A couple

of weeks ago, an unverified report arrived at the Senior Dogs Project

stating that all 27 veterinary schools in North America were in the

process of considering a change in their protocols for vaccinating

dogs and cats. According to information posted by Lyn s on the

Doglogic website, these are the concepts underlying the new

guidelines that are purportedly under consideration:

" Dogs' and cats' immune systems mature fully at 6 months. If a

modified live virus (MLV) vaccine is given after 6 months of age, it

produces immunity, which is good for the life of the pet (i.e.,

canine distemper, parvo, feline distemper). If another MLV vaccine is

given a year later, the antibodies from the first vaccine neutralize

the antigens of the second vaccine and there is little or no effect.

The titer is not 'boosted' nor are more memory cells induced.

" Not only are annual boosters for parvo and distemper unnecessary,

they subject the pet to potential risks of allergic reactions and

immune-mediated hemolytic anemia. There is no scientific

documentation to back up label claims for annual administration of

MLV vaccines.

Puppies receive antibodies through their mother's milk. This natural

protection can last 8-14 weeks. Puppies and kittens should NOT be

vaccinated at LESS than 8 weeks. Maternal immunity will neutralize

the vaccine and little protection (0-38%) will be produced.

Vaccination at 6 weeks will, however, delay the timing of the first

highly effective vaccine.

Vaccinations given 2 weeks apart suppress rather than stimulate the

immune system. A series of vaccinations is given starting at 8 weeks

and given 3-4 weeks apart up to 16 weeks of age. Another vaccination

given sometime after 6 months of age (usually at 1 year 4 months)

will provide lifetime immunity. "

interestingly vets seem to be a better lot than doctors, i don't know

why.

well i guess doctors see to many people and it sends them slightly

mad?

[Guest guest]

Thanks -- actually in my schpeel to her on vaccines, I did

happen to mention this article to her! Maybe I'll just have to send

her the entire thing so she can see it for herself. It's pretty

sobering to think about!

W

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> the most intelligent thing i have read about vaccines is this

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> From " Shirley's Wellness Cafe " :

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> " Vaccinations: Will Veterinary Schools in North America Be Changing

> Vaccination Protocols? "

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[Guest guest]

No offense taken Debby! I certainly presented her with as much info

as I could in a single email and am continuing to send her messages

tonight. I think it is difficult for a newly-diagnosed family to

sort things out at first but I think her hunch is not to vaccinate.

She did see the baby lose some babbling skills at 4 months so her

guard is up. I'm just hoping that she will decline or at the very

least, run a titer to see how his antibodies are from the earlier

shot.

W

> Please forgive me if I've hurt anyone's feelings....my family's

been destroyed by vaccinations. Love, Debby

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