Re: Devin//others:If lacking enzymes, was this caused at birth or from shots?

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....and then there's the chemical issue...Could a DAN doctor help with

something like this?

Hi Gretchen.

Our DAN MD specializes in allergy/environmental issues: Philip Ranheim in WA

You might consider a specialist. If a doctor is a preferred provider, then

office visits should be covered depending on your deductible. Tests like the

IGG food screens are generally not covered. I don¹t have experience with

other allergy testing. We used Ranheim for GI and hair tests and then I had

to ask specifically that they would add a second ICD code, not just

infantile autism. Our insurance covered all the tests except the screen.

Serena

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>>>>> If a child is doing great on Dr. Houston's enzymes, does this

mean the child is lacking natural enzymes?

I don't think you can make that association at all. Many people do

well with digestive enzymes simply because they eat a lot of cooked

food. So adding enzymes just for that reason alone can be helpful. Or

older people do well with enzymes because the stomach acid production

can decline with age (thus messing with the entire digestion

process). The extra supplemental enzymes help to keep food digested

optimally.

Digestion is such a complicated process with lots of checks and

counter-checks and signals being sent via chemical messengers and

physical reactions that any 'impaired' digestion can be cause by a

wide variety of things and in different areas of the digestive tract.

>>>Will some children need to take enzymes for the rest of their

lives to help them not react poorly to foods (especially foods over

time without enzymes)?

Hard to say. It is very likely that some people will end their enzyme

use (as has happened for some already), some will have to continue,

and some will use enzymes some of the time but not other times. Some

people will likely need certain enzymes only with certain foods but

not with other foods.

The fact that many people using enzymes for awhile (like us) no

longer require the same level of enzyme support at all is definitely

progress in the right direction. Unlike some special diets where more

and more foods need to be eliminated over time - going in the wrong

direction.

I do not think a dan doctor would be helpful just because they have

letters on their name. You would probably do better with looking for

a specialist in the area of multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) or

environmental allergy. This type of specialist might also be on the

dan list (as Serena mentioned) or they might not. Try to find someone

that is competent and takes insurance first, if possible.

I wonder if steady use of antioxidants would help. Soooo good to hear

the No-Fenol and other enzymes are working!!!

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Rather than a DAN doctor, I would look into a good allergist. Someone

recommended the following book to me: " Is this Your Child " by Doris Rapp,

MD. I haven't read it, though I did look through it at the bookstore. It

does have a chapter about chemical sensitivities and she discusses a method

of treating allergies whereby she provokes the allergy then does something

that makes it no longer an allergy. She is based in NY, however, I'm sure

there are good allergists in other places too.

I hope this might help.

>From: " Gretchen " <k12userfor2@...>

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>Subject: Devin//others:If lacking enzymes, was this caused

>at birth or from shots?

>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:09:56 -0000

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>If a child is doing great on Dr. Houston's enzymes, does this mean

>the child is lacking natural enzymes? If so, was this caused at

>birth or from shots? Will some children need to take enzymes for

>the rest of their lives to help them not react poorly to foods

>(especially foods over time without enzymes)?

>

>Also, I'm interested in receiving opinions on whether a DAN doctor

>could help us in the following situation. My 6 year old child has a

>bad reaction to chemicals in general, including perfumes and other

>fragrances, which makes it difficult going to certain places that

>will have these fragrances in enclosed areas. Thankfully, Dr.

>Houston's " No-Fenol " has helped with some of the " food-related "

>phenol issues. My daughter is seemingly very healthy and had a good

>physical at the Pediatrician's. [i LOVE the good and " happy "

>attitude No-Fenol & AFP Peptizyde have given my daughter!! Amazing!]

>

>I'm thinking about taking her to a DAN doctor to see if other tests

>determine whether something else is going on and to ask if this is

>something that can be worked on over time so that my daughter can

>come in contact with common chemicals without a reaction to things

>such as: perfume/fragranced clothes from Laundry Detergent/hugging

>someone wearing Hair Spray/fragranced body lotion/shampoo/soaps/

>colored markers/...

>

>When my daughter consumes artificial colors, certain fruits (even w/

>No-Fenol), or is in contact with a frangrance, she'll get dark

>circles under her eyes, will have lack of focus, poor behavior,

>higher anxiety, much more stuttering, and poor sleep for a few

>days. Her body seems to think these things are poison. Her body

>doesn't do well with Soy and Corn either. Maybe the " new " bromelain

>and Papain-free Zyme Prime will help with certain things once we

>start it.

>

>All of these issues make it difficult around the Holiday's and

>family gatherings. When people ask us why we choose to not get

>together as a family at their homes or at restaurants. It gets

>tiring to tell them all the time that our little girl has food and

>chemical issues. They seem to " not listen to " what we tell

>them...maybe they need enzymes to help them " focus " ...lol...

>And then the question is brought up, " What does the doctor say? " IF

>they could only understand that doctors know a lot, but they don't

>know everything. Doctors come up with all kinds of things that

>could " help " ...Medication! Before we heard about enzymes, we tried

>the medication route for awhile, and they helped a little but

>nothing like how Dr. Houston's enzymes have helped. Within 4 months

>of starting the enzymes (as well as removing artificial

>colors/certain fruits/soy/corn), our daughter was off of all

>medication, including meds to help her sleep!

>

>Many people tend to think of what we're going through with our

>daughter as a " negative " thing, whereas, we choose to see things in

>a more postitve way and that this as a way of life for now until

>more things are figured out. In fact, MANY positive things have come

>from the challenges we've been experiencing and lots of people are

>learning and being helped by certain things because of what we've

>learned on this support group and experienced with these

>enzymes.

>

>As far as the food is concerned, we could bring her own food, but

>it's sad for her (which makes us sad) to see all her other cousin's

>and friends eating whatever they'd like...and then there's the

>chemical issue...Could a DAN doctor help with something like this?

>If so, do you have an opinion on what tests we should start with? I

>know the tests can be very expensive. Do you know if insurance could

>pay for them or will it definitely be out-of-pocket? (my husband

>would like to know that part:)

>

>Thanks so much for your thoughts,

>Gretchen

>

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> If a child is doing great on Dr. Houston's enzymes, does this mean

> the child is lacking natural enzymes? If so, was this caused at

> birth or from shots?

My son tolerated no foods, and I *think* it is because his body did not make any

enzymes on its own. Chelation allowed my son to

eat all foods even without enzymes. So for him, I believe his body did not make

enzymes because it was metal toxic, and removing

the metals allowed his body to make the enzymes again.

Will some children need to take enzymes for

> the rest of their lives to help them not react poorly to foods

> (especially foods over time without enzymes)?

Not sure, perhaps over time kids can start eating foods without enzymes again.

For my son, he needed chelation, see above.

> Also, I'm interested in receiving opinions on whether a DAN doctor

> could help us in the following situation. My 6 year old child has a

> bad reaction to chemicals in general, including perfumes and other

> fragrances, which makes it difficult going to certain places that

> will have these fragrances in enclosed areas.

A DAN doctor, or other doctor who is amenable to biomedical approaches, can

probably help. My son's environmental issues also

went away with chelation.

> When my daughter consumes artificial colors, certain fruits (even w/

> No-Fenol), or is in contact with a frangrance, she'll get dark

> circles under her eyes, will have lack of focus, poor behavior,

> higher anxiety, much more stuttering, and poor sleep for a few

> days. Her body seems to think these things are poison. Her body

> doesn't do well with Soy and Corn either. Maybe the " new " bromelain

> and Papain-free Zyme Prime will help with certain things once we

> start it.

This list is similar to what my son could not tolerate, even with enzymes.

Good luck.

Dana