re: houston and kirkman enzymes

[Guest guest]

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Your dan doctor has a very limited and even erroneous view of what

goes on with enzyme making and I am sure both Houstons and Kirkmans

would have a fit over this line he is telling people. You might want

to double and triple check everything else he tells you as well.

Could be he just partially understands other things and although

making a mistake on enzymes usually isn't harmful, making sure

mistakes with other measures, tests, supplements, or meds could be.

The difference in enzymes is not just where one gets enzymes (which

is important) but how one mixes, formulates, and handles the enzymes.

Testimony after testimony says that Houstons enzymes remain superior

in effectiveness to Kirkmans (although Kirkmans are certainly likely

okay for average use). The difference is that Dr. Devin Houston is a

professional enzymologist, has conducted research and published in

this area, and intricately knows enzymes, their properties, and

activities. Kirkman is a supplement vendor without any special enzyme

person but uses some off the shelf mixtures, and tries to duplicate

what is working for others (which is what most supplement vendors do -

have some type of enzyme blend in their supplement line).

For example: if one bottle says protease on it and another bottle

says protease on it, are these the same thing? Probably not. There

are hundreds if not thousands of different types of 'proteases' to

mix and match and so there might be very different types of enzymes

in the bottle even though both would have some type of protease

activity.

Another example: if just having protease or papain in a bottle was

adequate, why didn't all the other previous enzyme blends on the

market, way before Houston's came out, effective in digesting casein

and gluten so that one could replace the GFCF diet? (or didn't have

to do GFCF) Kirkman had enzymes out for several years before Houston

and no one could replace the diet with those. Or with any of the

other enzymes out for decades, even though other ones said 'protease'

and 'papain' on the label.

So it really depends on what you are looking for. There are many

other enzyme brands out there as well...not just two companies. You

might find one of the other ones very effective for your situation as

well.

If you want, you could list the foods or problem you are trying to

correct and then people could offer suggestions on what worked for

them in similar situations.

Best,

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[Guest guest]

enzymes are formulations so the the products have different types,

quantites and most likely there are some manufacturer source

differences.

i think he gave you a break by indicating he is useless as a doctor

enzymes are like paintings............. that different.

> Hi,

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> My DAN doctor says that the Houston Enzymes are almost identical to

the

> newest Kirkman products, and that neither Houston nor Kirkman are

> manufacturers and both of these companies get their enzymes from

the same

> company that makes them and bottles them, then the only thing

Kirkman and

> Houston do is place their label on the bottle.

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> My question what is the difference between the two?

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> Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

maybe i should try houston enzymes. i have not had any luck with

kirkman or any other enzymes i`ve used. one doctor suggested absorb

aid. has anyone ever tried this. my son eats me out of house and home

and he is extremely small. not absorbing well at all. Tina

[Guest guest]

>>My DAN doctor says that the Houston Enzymes are almost identical to the

newest Kirkman products, and that neither Houston nor Kirkman are

manufacturers and both of these companies get their enzymes from the same

company that makes them and bottles them, then the only thing Kirkman and

Houston do is place their label on the bottle.

** If this were the case then how come many people who have tried Kirkman's

have found that Houston's worked where Kirkman's didn't ?

This sounds like the sort of thing I can picture lots of people saying

simply from the assumption that these things happen in other industries -

they hear it about something and assume it's that way for everything.

There are clearly times when this does happen, but others where there is

just no comparison - like Rimmel cosmetics and Estee Lauder, not that we

would use them necessarily but anyone like me who grew up on Rimmel can

appreciate the difference when they use a quality product. No more black

eyes ;o)

Julea )

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[Guest guest]

i think that the dan docs and kirkman have some kind of deal going

on.Tina

[Guest guest]

thanks for your reply. my son gets the red ears alot. i

can`t figure out whats causing it. he hasn`t been getting enzymes

much lately, because i gave up on them, but i`m going to try the

houston enzymes. my son eats me out of house and home. which wouldn`t

bother me so much if he was growing. in one end and out the other.

Tina

[Guest guest]

Tina--

I tried Absorbaid for my NTson...red ears.

I tried EnzymeComplete (kirkman)...red, burning ears.

I now use 2ZP, 2AFP, 1NF with each meal...no red ears

and he is putting on more weight and seems to be eating

les(but still a lot compared to other 6.5 year olds).

The Houston enzymes also work great for my ASD son.

Decreased some sensory issues, cleared his skin a little

and allowed G and C back into his limited diet.

re: houston and kirkman enzymes

> maybe i should try houston enzymes. i have not had any luck with

> kirkman or any other enzymes i`ve used. one doctor suggested absorb

> aid. has anyone ever tried this. my son eats me out of house and home

> and he is extremely small. not absorbing well at all. Tina

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[Guest guest]

Sometimes I'm just amazed at how much my son can pack away--

he is only 4.5 and at lunch he ate 6 hotdogs (no bun), 1/2 cup of rice,

a whole large banana and 1 whole apple. He was still asking for more.

I cut it off there because the amount he ate was making ME sick...Even with

enzymes he has a healthy appetite...

re: houston and kirkman enzymes

> thanks for your reply. my son gets the red ears alot. i

> can`t figure out whats causing it. he hasn`t been getting enzymes

> much lately, because i gave up on them, but i`m going to try the

> houston enzymes. my son eats me out of house and home. which wouldn`t

> bother me so much if he was growing. in one end and out the other.

> Tina

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[Guest guest]

I read about red ears and enzymes on this forum. Any feedback would

be appreciated.

http://neuro-mancer.mgh.harvard.edu/ubb/Forum9/HTML/004634.html

in Oregon

[Guest guest]

> Sometimes I'm just amazed at how much my son can pack away--

> he is only 4.5 and at lunch he ate 6 hotdogs (no bun), 1/2 cup of rice,

> a whole large banana and 1 whole apple. He was still asking for more.

> I cut it off there because the amount he ate was making ME sick...Even with

> enzymes he has a healthy appetite...

When my son ate this much, it meant he was eating a food/supplement he did not

tolerate, even with enzymes.

Dana