Re: please help me here!-mandi and dana

[Guest guest]

enzymes has dose limit? and how gradual i should have been? yes Mandi i will

need help with sweet stuff v badly as my son goes to sugar jar and eats it as

i

am trying to reduce it. sugar is going to be worst for us! and i am just

postponing it because iknow it is going to be the toughest? breakfast is the

biggest problem.

help! on that please! as i dont want to replace it with artificial sweetener.

Seema,

You need to dose enzymes per the food eaten and also per the child. I give

large amounts of enzymes but this may not be appropriate for you.

Also, artificial sweeteners should be avoided, especially Nutrasweet (Equal).

There are significant possible neurological reactions to Nutrasweet. In my

opinion, while it definitely interferes with the goal of getting rid of yeast,

if you have to pick sugar or artificial, with our kids nervous systems the way

they are, I would pick sugar. I do give antiyeast treatment daily, though and

I am hoping this helps.

Robin

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin

you are right as i avoid aspertame so nutrasweet is out of question?

what anti yeast treatment do you give?

seema

In a message dated 01/01/2004 02:38:07 GMT Standard Time, JCKRPF@...

writes:

> Also, artificial sweeteners should be avoided, especially Nutrasweet

> (Equal).

> There are significant possible neurological reactions to Nutrasweet. In my

> opinion, while it definitely interferes with the goal of getting rid of

> yeast,

> if you have to pick sugar or artificial, with our kids nervous systems the

> way

> they are, I would pick sugar. I do give antiyeast treatment daily, though

> and

> I am hoping this helps.

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Hi Seema

Enzymes don;t really have a top dose ONCE he is settled on them, however

starting out it is often better to go slow. This isn't because of the job you

really wanted the enzymes to do ie digest food, but because of the other great

things it does.

A couple of examples would be killing off yeast and maybe other gut bugs, as

they die they release toxins and that can make you very poorly - better to go

slow. Another could be even if you have been following a CFGF diet, enzymes

are more effective and there could be a period of 'withdrawal' as many people

see when they start the diet.

You mentioned he hadn;t eaten well for a few days and then - bam- eating lots

and not chewing properly, if I had done that I would most likley throw up too

lol.

The removing sweet stuff - hardest of all - makes CFGF seem easy There

isn;t really a subsitute - you have to do without. Eating fruit on its own (ie

not apple pie, just apple by itself) was my eventual aim and mostly we are here

now. It took for ever. We don't even have a sugar jar anymore. Start slow but

be determined, we just don;t need added sugar at all. Loose the sweets first.

He will rebel, Sam did amazing things to try and get them when we pulled

sweets, he was literally try to climb walls and 'communicating' (gesture,

pulling

us) the best he ever had been just to try and get his 'fix'.

By properly digesting the food the gut bugs will have less to feed on, any

enzyme 'spare' or 'left over' from digestion will go on working lower down the

digestive system, popping those yeast coats (think of them as little balloons

filled with pus - yuk) and starting to heal the 'leaky gut'. There is a whole

cascade of good stuff they do, its just that doing it all at once can be a

major shock to a little body needing repair.

General advice here now (gleened from experinces of many) is to start one

enzyme at a time, one meal at a time and build up from 1/4- 1/2 cap. One

listmate

even did 1/16 a cap gradually over many weeks. So we are not suggesting

cutting back on the dose becasue it was too high in general, just that it might

be

too high for him to handle comfortably right now.

Are you seeing any hyperness, stool changes, skin rash around mouth or bum?

All those for Sam were yeast die off. It does present differently in each child

but those are common reactions.

Hang in there, you are doing a good thing!

Mandi x

> enzymes has dose limit? and how gradual i should have been? yes Mandi i

> will

> need help with sweet stuff v badly as my son goes to sugar jar and eats it

> as

> i

> am trying to reduce it. sugar is going to be worst for us! and i am just

> postponing it because iknow it is going to be the toughest?

[Guest guest]

> Thanks mandi and dana

> I have reduced the enzymes now he seems better but scared me so much! does

> enzymes has dose limit?

For some children yes, especially No-Fenol.

> need help with sweet stuff v badly as my son goes to sugar jar and eats it as

i

> am trying to reduce it. sugar is going to be worst for us! and i am just

> postponing it because iknow it is going to be the toughest? breakfast is the

> biggest problem.

I have a page of lunch/snack ideas, these are gfcf and many are lower sugar,

maybe your son might like to try some of these ideas for

breakfast

http://www.danasview.net/lunch.htm

Dana