Re: Devin / / everybody: how to compare USP and HUT / FCCPU?

[Guest guest]

>>>> A friend of mine who tries to entroduce enzymes for her 3-yr old

son asked me if the Genestra enzyme she is using is better or worse

than Houstoni Peptizyde. I tried to find the rules for conversion of

USP into HUT and / or mg into FCCPU in the Files and Archive on this

board and in 's book but failed.

There is no direct conversion for USP and HUT. One is for assaying

plant/microbially derived enzymes and the other is for pancreatic

enzymes. Pancreatic enzymes are less stable than plant ones and do

not work in the stomach whereas plant ones do. Pancreatic ones also

come in a predetermined set ratio (like one set 'dose' of protease,

amylase, and lipase). This dose is denoted as X. So if the label says

2X, it is two amounts of the set ratio (twice as much). If it says

5X, it is five amounts of the set ratio (five times as much). Plant

are usually preferable if possible.

In second printing of the enzyme book, it is page 320-321.

>>>>> Genestra:

> Protease Activity 750000 USP

> Amylaze activity 2500 USP

> Lipase activity 200 USP

> Betaine Hypochloride 5 mg

> Glutamic Acid 5 mg

> derived from Bromelain 80 mg

> Papain 125 mg

> Pancreatin 4X conc 25 mg

Okay...this one has a mix of plant ons as well as pancreatic ones

(pancreatin at 4 times the dose). It also has some added stuff which

are not enzymes but are likely included because they 'assist' in

digestion: Betaine and glutamic acid.

This one is not equal to Peptizyde because it covers different

ground. Both might be helpful. If the friend's child has a problem

with casein, gluten, or other particular proteins then Peptizyde is

needed because it has specific enzymes for those proteins. The

Genestra is very likely not effective for replacing a GFCF diet.

However, Genestra may be helpful in a really general way with

digestion just because more people (with autism conditions not) do a

bit better with adding enzyme supplements to the diet (because we eat

so much cooked and processed food). It has some carb and fat enzymes

in it (the amylase and lipase) which Peptizyde does not. BUT, Zyme

Prime by Houston's is the one usually taken for all-purpose enzyme

use. So it might be helpful to compare the Genestra to Zyme Prime. I

think the Zyme Prime would be much more effective still.

Does the friend say if the enzymes have helped in any way, shape, or

form? Does the child in question have any particular physical or

behavior symptoms? Particular food intolerances?

Your friend might want to try the Houston enzymes next, 1 bottle of

Zyme and 1 of Peptizyde, and just see if there is any additional

improvement with those. If there is, that would be telling. If not,

then you would know that too.

.

P.S. I would really like Devin to reply to any advantage on mixing

pancreatic enzymes with plant enzymes? Any additional advantage? Or

just a waste of $$?

[Guest guest]

The only advantage is that you would be boosting the enzyme activity within the

intestinal tract with the pancreatic enzyme, so taking both plant and pancreatic

gives

you 2 sites of enzyme action (stomach and small intestine), though the plant

enzymes

will also keep working in the intestinal tract.

> >>>> A friend of mine who tries to entroduce enzymes for her 3-yr old

> son asked me if the Genestra enzyme she is using is better or worse

> than Houstoni Peptizyde. I tried to find the rules for conversion of

> USP into HUT and / or mg into FCCPU in the Files and Archive on this

> board and in 's book but failed.

>

> There is no direct conversion for USP and HUT. One is for assaying

> plant/microbially derived enzymes and the other is for pancreatic

> enzymes. Pancreatic enzymes are less stable than plant ones and do

> not work in the stomach whereas plant ones do. Pancreatic ones also

> come in a predetermined set ratio (like one set 'dose' of protease,

> amylase, and lipase). This dose is denoted as X. So if the label says

> 2X, it is two amounts of the set ratio (twice as much). If it says

> 5X, it is five amounts of the set ratio (five times as much). Plant

> are usually preferable if possible.

>

> In second printing of the enzyme book, it is page 320-321.

>

>

> >>>>> Genestra:

> > Protease Activity 750000 USP

> > Amylaze activity 2500 USP

> > Lipase activity 200 USP

> > Betaine Hypochloride 5 mg

> > Glutamic Acid 5 mg

> > derived from Bromelain 80 mg

> > Papain 125 mg

> > Pancreatin 4X conc 25 mg

>

> Okay...this one has a mix of plant ons as well as pancreatic ones

> (pancreatin at 4 times the dose). It also has some added stuff which

> are not enzymes but are likely included because they 'assist' in

> digestion: Betaine and glutamic acid.

>

> This one is not equal to Peptizyde because it covers different

> ground. Both might be helpful. If the friend's child has a problem

> with casein, gluten, or other particular proteins then Peptizyde is

> needed because it has specific enzymes for those proteins. The

> Genestra is very likely not effective for replacing a GFCF diet.

>

> However, Genestra may be helpful in a really general way with

> digestion just because more people (with autism conditions not) do a

> bit better with adding enzyme supplements to the diet (because we eat

> so much cooked and processed food). It has some carb and fat enzymes

> in it (the amylase and lipase) which Peptizyde does not. BUT, Zyme

> Prime by Houston's is the one usually taken for all-purpose enzyme

> use. So it might be helpful to compare the Genestra to Zyme Prime. I

> think the Zyme Prime would be much more effective still.

>

> Does the friend say if the enzymes have helped in any way, shape, or

> form? Does the child in question have any particular physical or

> behavior symptoms? Particular food intolerances?

>

> Your friend might want to try the Houston enzymes next, 1 bottle of

> Zyme and 1 of Peptizyde, and just see if there is any additional

> improvement with those. If there is, that would be telling. If not,

> then you would know that too.

>

> .

>

>

> P.S. I would really like Devin to reply to any advantage on mixing

> pancreatic enzymes with plant enzymes? Any additional advantage? Or

> just a waste of $$?