Help please with rash/pinkness on face!

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Hi

I'm guessing here, but wondering if the rash was related to the measles virus

coming out of him??? Dana said with her lad that his visual stims came back

if she withdrew it completely, though an update is due anyday. Sorry I don;t

have more to add

MAndi in UK

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Hi.. I am stumped here and wanted to ask any thoughts please..

My 22 month old is 9 weeks SCD 100% and dairy free. He takes

Kirkmans Super Nu Thera, Enzyme Aide and was taking 10,000-15,000

IU's of Vitamin A (getting this from Super Nu Thera and a Vitamin A

drop to avoid overload on Vitamin D that is found in Cod Liver Oil).

He did GREAT on this combination with added language, attentiveness,

laughing, playing with sister of same age.. just did great.

About a 10 days ago I noticed a " chapping' like pinkness on his

cheeks and around his mouth... it was not from the weather and the

Vitamin A was the last thing added.. he had been on same dosage for

about 2 weeks at this point.. around 15,000 IU's. I cut back on the

Vitamin A to about 7500 IU's and saw some improvement. Then I

totally cut it out by switching vitamins so that he got no A at all.

He has been without " A " for a week now and though the pinkness gets

better, it does not go away completely. This AM it was as bright as

ever. Funny how it fades a bit and then pops back out. Nothing else

has changed in his diet.

He has developed a cough and his sister just had RSV we think.. but

she had no rash or anything like this with it. I began searching for

answers beyond Vitamin A toxicity but haven't figured it out yet. I

checked on Roseola online and it said it generally has a rash on

other parts of body beforehand. He did not have this. I noticed

today just a very few " whitehead " like bumps on his stomach area.

He seems to feel OK considering he has this nasty cough. The " rash "

on face started before the cough --by days. The " rash " also is under

the skin evidentally.. his skin is still smoothe and you cannot feel

anything at all.

He is not quite as interactive or verbalizing as well without

the " A " . I began to notice this within a day or so and I " d like to

add it back if this is not the cause of this rash/pinkness on the

face. I am considering adding back a little bit and seeing if it

worsens. I had read the list and thought that most saw gradual

consistent improvement when they had " A " toxicity once it was

removed.

Is it normal that the improvement will not be consistent and that he

will continue to regress after a week of being off it?? Makes no

sense to me but I know that doesn't mean anything!

Thanks for any thoughts on this!

Mom to Slater.. SCD 9 weeks/dairy free and PDD/NOS

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Hi ,

Are you giving Slater enzymes? I have been noticing the same issue

is my 28 month old Wyatt (in fact I have been meaning to post about

it). I can tell it is from the enzymes. I am in sort of a caundry as

to what to do about it. I have noticed that if I don't give more

than 1/2 cap of an enzyme, then it seems to be OK. But if I give a

whole cap of Zyme- Prime (I also tried Similase, BTW, which is a

different formulation but still broad spectrum)he gets a pretty

severe rash. IT starts a a big blotchy pink spot around his mouth,

then gets chapped and even blistered a little.The last one took

about 4 days to subside. I was careful not to get the enzymes on his

face, so I know that's not it. It can't decide if it is an

intolerane to the enzymes, or perhaps yeast die off?

Wyatt also has had an ongoing mild rash on other parts of his body -

I'm pretty sure they are food reactions. His cheeks tend to get a

mottling of little red spots that are smooth to the touch. Sometimes

his forearms and thighs have little white or clear bumps. We aren't

true SCD, but I started baking with nuts a lot and I'm pretty sure

Wyatt is now reacting to almonds. So Slater could be reacting to

something in his diet that he didn't react to before (nuts are

difficult to digest and tend to be fairly allergenic).We are going

to do an IGg food panel on him...

Well. let me know if you figure it out! Slater's sypmtoms sound a

lot like Wyatt's. We have not ever supplemented with Vit. A.

Best,

Miti

> Hi.. I am stumped here and wanted to ask any thoughts please..

> My 22 month old is 9 weeks SCD 100% and dairy free. He takes

> Kirkmans Super Nu Thera, Enzyme Aide and was taking 10,000-15,000

> IU's of Vitamin A (getting this from Super Nu Thera and a Vitamin

A

> drop to avoid overload on Vitamin D that is found in Cod Liver

Oil).

> He did GREAT on this combination with added language,

attentiveness,

> laughing, playing with sister of same age.. just did great.

> About a 10 days ago I noticed a " chapping' like pinkness on his

> cheeks and around his mouth... it was not from the weather and the

> Vitamin A was the last thing added.. he had been on same dosage

for

> about 2 weeks at this point.. around 15,000 IU's. I cut back on

the

> Vitamin A to about 7500 IU's and saw some improvement. Then I

> totally cut it out by switching vitamins so that he got no A at

all.

> He has been without " A " for a week now and though the pinkness

gets

> better, it does not go away completely. This AM it was as bright

as

> ever. Funny how it fades a bit and then pops back out. Nothing

else

> has changed in his diet.

> He has developed a cough and his sister just had RSV we think..

but

> she had no rash or anything like this with it. I began searching

for

> answers beyond Vitamin A toxicity but haven't figured it out yet.

I

> checked on Roseola online and it said it generally has a rash on

> other parts of body beforehand. He did not have this. I noticed

> today just a very few " whitehead " like bumps on his stomach area.

> He seems to feel OK considering he has this nasty cough.

The " rash "

> on face started before the cough --by days. The " rash " also is

under

> the skin evidentally.. his skin is still smoothe and you cannot

feel

> anything at all.

> He is not quite as interactive or verbalizing as well without

> the " A " . I began to notice this within a day or so and I " d like to

> add it back if this is not the cause of this rash/pinkness on the

> face. I am considering adding back a little bit and seeing if it

> worsens. I had read the list and thought that most saw gradual

> consistent improvement when they had " A " toxicity once it was

> removed.

> Is it normal that the improvement will not be consistent and that

he

> will continue to regress after a week of being off it?? Makes no

> sense to me but I know that doesn't mean anything!

> Thanks for any thoughts on this!

>

> Mom to Slater.. SCD 9 weeks/dairy free and PDD/NOS

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> He has been without " A " for a week now and though the pinkness gets

> better, it does not go away completely. This AM it was as bright as

> ever. Funny how it fades a bit and then pops back out. Nothing else

> has changed in his diet.

The rash you describe does not sound like the vitamin A toxicity rash that my

kids get.

It does sound like it might be yeast or even a viral die off, and now the virus

is increasing because the A is removed.

I would add back the A, maybe a different form [he might not tolerate the A you

were giving before]. Start at about 5000 IU and see if

he does okay with it.

Dana

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> Hi

> I'm guessing here, but wondering if the rash was related to the measles virus

> coming out of him??? Dana said with her lad that his visual stims came back

> if she withdrew it completely, though an update is due anyday.

Update maybe next weekend, depending on how a few things go this week.

Dana