Re: constipated but then messy?

[Guest guest]

> When my ds was in the middle of antibiotics and going crazy, I

> started him on Primal Defense. We experienced almost immediate and

> wonderful results re: behavior and calming. However, the following

> has happened twice now: after four days, ds becomes constipated and

> doesn't have a BM for two days. Then he does have one, and it's a

> MESS. I would expect after constipation for the stool to be very

> hard. Can anyone tell me why it would be such a gloopy mess after

> constipation?

This sounds like an impaction. When you say a " mess " , does that mean a very

runny bm, very liquid diarrhea? Does it have sticky

black specks in it?

For an impaction, the hard bm stays in the bowel, and other bm slips around it.

So the bm you see is what slipped around the

impaction, but the impaction is still there. I have read this problem occurring

with certain probiotics, and Primal Defense I *think* is

one of them. I would stop the Primal Defense and wait for normal bms [or at

least better bms than you have here], then consider a

different probiotic, see if that helps.

You might also want to take him to a doctor for an abdominal x-ray, to learn

whether there really is an impaction.

Dana

[Guest guest]

When my son has a yeast flair-up he has the same constipation/

diarrhea issue. How much PD are you giving?

constipated but then messy?

> When my ds was in the middle of antibiotics and going crazy, I

> started him on Primal Defense. We experienced almost immediate and

> wonderful results re: behavior and calming. However, the following

> has happened twice now: after four days, ds becomes constipated and

> doesn't have a BM for two days. Then he does have one, and it's a

> MESS. I would expect after constipation for the stool to be very

> hard. Can anyone tell me why it would be such a gloopy mess after

> constipation?

>

> Primal Defense was stumped when I called. Is this a yeast issue?

> And what would you do to remedy?

>

> TIA,

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[Guest guest]

We have had the same problem. No movement for a day or two, then soft BM's.

I also believed that it was most likely impaction. But before we went in for

x-rays, we did a trail of secretin ( last monday) he has been going everyday

since.

The BM's are densly packed, which leads me to believe that when he was not

going everyday, there must have been some blockage and only the soft stuff was

getting through.

If our son goes back to that same cycle, we will have him checked. I suggest

you check for impaction also.

Mel

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> When my ds was in the middle of antibiotics and going crazy, I

> started him on Primal Defense. We experienced almost immediate and

> wonderful results re: behavior and calming. However, the following

> has happened twice now: after four days, ds becomes constipated and

> doesn't have a BM for two days. Then he does have one, and it's a

> MESS. I would expect after constipation for the stool to be very

> hard. Can anyone tell me why it would be such a gloopy mess after

> constipation?

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Mel. I'll be talking to the ped. today and will follow up on

this. Glad you're having success with secretin!

> We have had the same problem. No movement for a day or two, then

soft BM's.

> I also believed that it was most likely impaction. But before we

went in for

> x-rays, we did a trail of secretin ( last monday) he has been going

everyday

> since.