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ok some mew friend just told me (her baby has a weakness in the chest/lungs and

gets colds etc. ALL the time) that " all babies have haemophillis influenza in

their noses when born and a jab kills it off " ?!?!?!?!?

WHA?!?!?!?

Anyone help here so I can inform her otherwise?

I have the oppportunity to join her community on msn and she is very open to

alternative meds and wants to do a page on it in the community!

Suzie

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said " Cutler's motive is missing and he does not work " inside "

either industry or medicine. "

, Cutler's motive is not missing at all. It's called money from

book sales. What motive is missing is yours. Why do you make sales

pitch after sales pitch for his book? That is a retorical question

and does not need to be answered as any answer by this time would be

highly questioned by now.

> In a message dated 7/21/02 3:24:11 AM Central Daylight Time,

> @y... writes:

>

>

> > never

> > thought your original email might be Andy Cutler and it was only

the Caleb

> > guy that I know is actually Andy

>

> In good humor, of course, folks who manage to get a Ph.D. from

Princeton

> University (Andy Cutler) do not make up ficticious email names so

(as a silly

> example) they can compensate for " getting hosed " by the Triangle

Club at

> Princeton as an undergrad, where they might have emerged as a true

thesbian.

> More likely than not, the trend among folks of the Cutler " ilk " (I

am married

> to one) is to be rather serious and NEVER indulge in such idiocy as

is

> described, because their minds are simply too orderly to come up

with such

> disorderly conduct.

>

> Anyone else who knows someone who studied Chemical Engineering, and

> Biochemistry knows how frolicky those sorts can be. Kidding

adjourned.

>

> I called Cutler on the phone as I do all the researchers I

research,

> and I do not believe he is capable of posing as two people, not

even just for

> an exercise in " fun " . He is as genuine as any of the professionals

I have

> inteviewed. The exception is that he does go online. Folks may not

know that

> many researchers talk on the internet, just not to everyone who

needs help.

> Most researchers are capable of handling " their area. "

>

> Cutler handles large volumes of mail with what I have determined

must be a

> form of speed reading. My husband does the same thing, disposing of

800

> emails while I watch a couple of TV shows. A growing number of

researchers

> have talked to me, privately. I do believe I am a good judge of

character

> regarding such individuals.

>

> I certainly hope the practice of damning researchers who talk to

patients

> does not go beyond this particular website, particularly if it is

all done in

> the name of good " fun, " or not.

>

> I did happen upon a cancer researcher (UMass) who told me on the

phone about

> two years ago that he never researches pesticides, that he

researches cancer

> drugs. Lie. I found research he has done on pesticides and sent it

back to

> him, with the note that " Someone has been using your name on

pesticide

> research without your knowledge! " . His work is subsidized by a

pesticide

> company that sells chemicals that cause breast cancer, that also

develops and

> sells pharmaceuticals to women who get breast cancer from those

chemicals. He

> is the researcher who works indirectly for a company who developed

Tamoxifen,

> one of the drugs in the make-you-sick-sell-you-drugs loop.

>

> Cutler is not one of those types of folks, thank God. In other

words I found

> no evidence that Cutler is duplicitous in any way whatsoever. The

guy

> described above from UMass whose name I will not mention, has

a " motive, " and

> he works " inside " a sick research industry. He gets paid to develop

drugs by

> studying pesticides.

>

> Cutler's motive is missing and he does not work " inside " either

industry or

> medicine. His book is intended to be used by doctors and patients.

It is

> probably likely that he cannot provide the book to all patients

without

> printing it. One cannot use the information in front of a computer

because

> some of us cannot stand up, or sit up. The book can be toted around

and

> mailed. $35 is almost meaningless in this country. It would barely

cover

> postage, paper, wrapper, staples, and never cover the cost of the

education

> or experience behind the book, no matter how many were sold. Most

people in

> this country who provide a service do charge a fee.

>

> At this point I think I have sent out about five or six copies of

his book.

> Several doctors I know want a copy. I intend to send one to Dr.

Rowe,

> s Hopkins Chronic Fatigue Center, once I reach the point at

which I can

> answer questions that he and I worked on for eight months regarding

my health

> issues in 1995-96.

>

> Dr. Rowe charged me for tilt tests, for patient visits and

declared

> himself " I have made you worse. " He referred me to an internist

that damaged

> my ego due to her stupidity. Dr. Rowe told me 1 out of every 100

doctors I

> saw would be able to help me, if at all. He is a very nice person

whom I

> continue to admire. He cannot get his back foot out of mainstream

mud because

> he probably has two kids, two cars a wife and a mortgage and cannot

take any

> bigger risk than looking at my TEETH, so is the money I spent there

money

> better spent?

>

> And could I risk the joshing issue further and say Dr. Rowe

may have

> two " sides to himself? " Cutler is interested in the truth

and he is

> bound by no organization to which he has to report. For further

information

> please either call me at 817-354-6191 or email me. We should not

allow heavy

> metal intoxication to slip past us as we evaluate our own illnesses.

>

> Jannarone

>

>

>

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In a message dated 8/18/02 9:29:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes:

From: gina413@...

Subject: Hepatitis Vaccines

.... I couple of years ago the hepatoligist wanted me to have the series of shots for Hep A and B, which I did. He was afraid that if I should contract one of these viruses it would do me in as I have AIH. There were NO side effects whatsoever. However, they also did not work for me (did not create any antibodies as he was hoping). . .

gina

, do you mean that you were tested to see if you have developed antibodies? Others who have had the HepA,B vaccines, were you tested afterward for antibody production?

Harper

From: "tdcc" <tdcc2000@...>

The one thing that does concern me, however, it the fact that so many of you all have hepatologists.   At one appointment, I questioned the doctor to see if she was a hepatologist.  She responded that she was just a GI, but that she had worked on a liver transplant team and was very familiar with AIH.  . . I am just curious to see how many of you all just have a GI or go to a hepatologist.

debby

Debby, I see a Gastro-enterologist. He said he has about a dozen patients with AIH. Palmer has some comments on choosing a doctor, including the type of doctor, but I don't have her book here to cite her recommendations.

Harper

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Harper, thank you for your information. I have the book and indeed it does answer questions for me. My GI is in a group of doctors. Each of the doctors has their own liilte pocket of AIH patients, as does she. So, they are aware that it is a bad disease. At this time, I do feel she is handling it well. I did convince her that taking the 6MP was better for my system. She has been shocked that I tolerated as well as I do. Now that I am not sick all the time with stomach pains, it helps.

debby

Hepatitis Vaccines ... I couple of years ago the hepatoligist wanted me to have the series of shots for Hep A and B, which I did. He was afraid that if I should contract one of these viruses it would do me in as I have AIH. There were NO side effects whatsoever. However, they also did not work for me (did not create any antibodies as he was hoping). . . gina, do you mean that you were tested to see if you have developed antibodies? Others who have had the HepA,B vaccines, were you tested afterward for antibody production? Harper From: "tdcc" <tdcc2000@...> The one thing that does concern me, however, it the fact that so many of you all have hepatologists. At one appointment, I questioned the doctor to see if she was a hepatologist. She responded that she was just a GI, but that she had worked on a liver transplant team and was very familiar with AIH. . . I am just curious to see how many of you all just have a GI or go to a hepatologist. debby Debby, I see a Gastro-enterologist. He said he has about a dozen patients with AIH. Palmer has some comments on choosing a doctor, including the type of doctor, but I don't have her book here to cite her recommendations. Harper

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Harper,

Yes I was tested after. Some people do not develop antiboties and because I

worked for a GI doc and I had my original vaccine years ago, when it first

came out, my antibodies were low again . This was all done at the onset of

diagnosis with AIH.

After 2nd vaccination for Hep B I now have appropriate antibioties.

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In a message dated 11/30/2003 3:27:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

Sharon

That's interesting. I have presumed that it is the casein he is reacting to

so have not trieed a cheese infraction. I will wait now until school breaks

up just before Christmas and will try the cheese in the holidays.

Thanks for your comment.

If your son can have cheese but not milk what is he reacting to in the milk?

Does he have behaviour issues with milk or physical symptoms?

Fran

Fran,

He reacts to casein and lactose but for some reason he can tolerate cheese

once a day with the enzymes. Milk, yogurt, or any other dairy product besides

cheese produces dark circles under the eyes, sometimes upset stomach, and a

sedative effect like he's on tranquilizers. I think he can tolerate the cheese

because it doesn't have much lactose and it's been processed with enzymes. He

probably still reacts to it somewhat but we're able to get away with it once a

day with a vegetable and no grains. He seems to do best with mozzarella.

Sharon

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Jenni, , Pam and Pamela....LOL, got it. Sorry that was probably my

fault for not paying closer attention. I just wanted to reiterate too, how

valuable the info you all provided was and I'm particularly grateful for the

Pacific Southwest phone number. Alice ~ Moose Creek Bath & Body

Digest Number 2456

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Oh no real problem Alice. I just wanted to make sure Pamela gets the proper

credit for her input. I know she has a lot more knowledge on this than I and

(seasoned) more years in producing bath products I'm sure.

Come October I have just two short years in soap making and a year in lotion

making and very little experience (only 6 months or so) with FDA guidelines.

I, just a few months ago, began selling my lotion products and researching

the legits on the matter. I'm very grateful for all the explanations on

this. It does get twisted when one reads late at night and tries to absorb

too much at a time.

I feel much better knowing my labels are correctly done.

Pam @ Shadow Lake

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LOL ... I'll answer to just about anything ... and probably have. ;)

Pamela Reilly

Pleasing Odors Creations

www.pleasingodors.com

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> Jenni, , Pam and Pamela....LOL, got it. Sorry that was probably my

> fault for not paying closer attention. I just wanted to reiterate too,

how

> valuable the info you all provided was and I'm particularly grateful for

the

> Pacific Southwest phone number. Alice ~ Moose Creek Bath & Body

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Whoa ... you know, pointed out that my interpretation of the

guidelines is not correct. So, please contact your local rep and get a

definitive answer from him or her. Never a dull moment!

Pamela Reilly

Pleasing Odors Creations

www.pleasingodors.com

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> Oh no real problem Alice. I just wanted to make sure Pamela ...

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Does anyone have a recipe using soy wax flakes? I make soy candles, and

would like to put together a bath basket with scented soy container candle,

soaps, etc. Thanks

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