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Can you please help me out on this one?

We are working with Pfieffer on getting copper out of my son - but I

noticed on their treatment program, no selenium, no molybdenum.

Aren't these two needed to make this work ? Their plan, right now,

calls for manganses, vit e, biotin, all the Bs, zinc picolinate, and

glutathione cream.

We have not started their program yet. I was to " zinc load " him

first, slowly building to 50 mg, and then start the program. But,

my son broke out in a really bad rash after upping the zinc to 50.

So now we have to wait another week, give him a break, and start

over with the zinc at a lower dose.

I appreciate any expertise you can lend. When I asked one of the

Pfieffer nurses " why isn't selenium or molybdenum on this

prescription plan " she said I needed to schedule a phone

consultation with one of the doctors and ask them . Uggh..

Thanks in advance-

[Guest guest]

in my honest opinion pfieffer have lost the plot.

you are better to do the supplements yourself.

you have to be careful to get a mixed tocotrienol vitamin e and not

a straight d alpha tocopherol. and not to much.

i really think the optizinc zinc methionine(usually includes a touch

of copper which is not a problem) is better than zinc picolinate

though short periods of zinc picolinate do offer a benefit, but it

really impacts badly on behavior.

don't load just find some suitable dose and continue with it. you

can't load until all the other minerals are in place or things get

too out of balance and once the other minerals are in place you don't

need to load. 50mg is way too much, i'd just use 10 mg or something,

10 mg over a while starts to add up. there is an opinion that

manganese is also need with zinc, but some low dose like 10 or 5 mg

spares the other minerals in ratio if you see what i mean.

you need to think about iodine as well, iodine, zinc and selenium are

the tyroid triad. (+ manganese as well)

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>

> Can you please help me out on this one?

>

> We are working with Pfieffer on getting copper out of my son - but

I

> noticed on their treatment program, no selenium, no molybdenum.

> Aren't these two needed to make this work ? Their plan, right now,

> calls for manganses, vit e, biotin, all the Bs, zinc picolinate,

and

> glutathione cream.

>

> We have not started their program yet. I was to " zinc load " him

> first, slowly building to 50 mg, and then start the program. But,

> my son broke out in a really bad rash after upping the zinc to 50.

> So now we have to wait another week, give him a break, and start

> over with the zinc at a lower dose.

>

> I appreciate any expertise you can lend. When I asked one of the

> Pfieffer nurses " why isn't selenium or molybdenum on this

> prescription plan " she said I needed to schedule a phone

> consultation with one of the doctors and ask them . Uggh..

>

> Thanks in advance-

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 03/09/2003 18:24:29 GMT Daylight Time, fstatum@...

writes:

> *****What brand of mixed tocotrienol? I saw one today with

> selenium . Can't remember the brand name now.

>

I've seen reommendations for the LEF product, <A

HREF= " www.lef.org " >www.lef.org</A>, haven;t tried it

but I'm about to

MAndi in UK

[Guest guest]

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> >

> you have to be careful to get a mixed tocotrienol vitamin e and

not

> a straight d alpha tocopherol. and not to much.

*****What brand of mixed tocotrienol? I saw one today with

selenium . Can't remember the brand name now.

>

> i really think the optizinc zinc methionine(usually includes a

touch

> of copper which is not a problem)>

****Is this optizinc the one by Solaray? With B6?

>

> you need to think about iodine as well, iodine, zinc and selenium

are

> the tyroid triad. (+ manganese as well)

*****How should he get iodine? Sea kelp? Sea salt?

Really appreciate your help !

[Guest guest]

am still working on a suitable tococpherinol, am currently using the

twinlabs maxi life rice tocotrienols, but its very exspenive and has

to much d alpha in.

you don't want to get a combined selenium and vitamin e because it

locks you into unsuitalbe ratios and limits the types to much.

iodine in this list

http://members.tripod.com/mueller_ranges/links/compendium/compendium.h

tml

opti zinc is a patented zinc form and is avialable from several

suppliers. am currently using the 'now' brand.you really want it as

stand alone as possible, i think the soalray b6 one has to much b6 in.

http://www.nutraceutical.com/search/view_product.cfm?

product_index=4707

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> > >

> > you have to be careful to get a mixed tocotrienol vitamin e and

> not

> > a straight d alpha tocopherol. and not to much.

>

> *****What brand of mixed tocotrienol? I saw one today with

> selenium . Can't remember the brand name now.

> >

> > i really think the optizinc zinc methionine(usually includes a

> touch

> > of copper which is not a problem)>

>

> ****Is this optizinc the one by Solaray? With B6?

> >

> > you need to think about iodine as well, iodine, zinc and selenium

> are

> > the tyroid triad. (+ manganese as well)

> *****How should he get iodine? Sea kelp? Sea salt?

>

> Really appreciate your help !

>