Guest guest Posted July 31, 2001 Report Share Posted July 31, 2001 In a message dated 7/31/01 3:11:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: > But since dopamine is (I think) a precursor to epinephrine, > wouldn't raising dopamine worsen high epinephrine levels (?) in CFS? > Or perhaps I'm mixed up about this. > Back in my days before I studied CFS I was trying ADD drugs to help with my brainfog. I took Ritalin and Adderall and both raise dopamine but I don't know if they also raise norepinephrine or not but if not then they raised it indirectly which gave me a sense of panic when I adjusted the dosage to high at first. I have never read anything about dopamine raising epinephrine though, but raising norepinephrine would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2001 Report Share Posted December 28, 2001 Bert, Thank you so much! What a beautiful poem! I hope you are feeling better. Happy New Year! Rose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 to Duncan Crow, I wanted to complement you on the content of your website, as a (former) professional person, I found it to be well put together and the very technical material presented both professionally and in a format understandible by non-medical people like myself. Thanks for the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Some of you have been asking about breakfast ideas, and I wanted to share some of what I frequently do...I try to think outside the " box " of traditional breakfast foods and incorporate more vegetables (since grains and fruits tend to create some problems for us... First off I must tell you that I try to think RAW foods like my famous CUAVAMATO rollup (one of my favorite breakfasts) the only bread product I eat is the EZEKIAL sprouted grain tortillas they come in two sizes chop up 1/2 avacado small plum tomato and some cucmber roll it up in a tortilla you can season with whatever you like...I personally use BRAGGSRaw Organic Apple Cider Vinegar which although some belive no vinegar on candida diet, I have also read to the contrary...I feel the ACV is beneficial Sometimes I have steamed veggies like broccoli Sometimes I have spaghetti squash sometimes tuna or egg salad in the aforementioned tortillas (I make my own mayo!!!) If I am in my SPROUTING MODE (sprouting can be a fun cheap hobby as well as body beneficial) I sprout some grains like quinoa or buckwheat and eat them as a cereal with some soaked almonds (sprouted grains do not react the same way as cooked grains in the system) I say to Heck with what we have traditionally eaten for breakfast, eat what you need and THINK MORE RAW FOODS I don't consider myself a raw foodist nor a " sproutarian " but just someone who recognizes the immense value of looking beyond what our society approaches as " normal " meals...just some FOOD FOR THOUGHT. Hope this helps some of you... Love and blessings for healing Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Just read the report on inulin from Duncan's website... and I wanted to share another food idea especially since reading I learned that BELGIAN ENDIVE (the leaves from chicory) is relatively high in naturally occuring inulin I LOVE USING The leaves as a natural " wrap " or cup for chopped eggs, tuna or chicken salad...it seems " bitterness " is a factor in many of items listed containing natural inulin (dandelion, endive/chicory) in herbalistic studies, these are hepatic action, helping the liver... Endive is not inexpensive but yet another alternative to helping us keep out grains other " wrap " ideas not using grains (let's get creative!) you can put anything in: LETTUCE GREEN or RED (not iceberg but leaf lettuce) NORI (seaweed sheets used for sushi and I love that wasabi) For me as I recall, including " bitter " foods has helped with curbing some of the cravings, it is when I neglect to include them that I backslide (damn that Halloween candy) I must admit it isn't always easy hope this helps some of you...share some creativity with me too please...and try to think raw/uncooked for those natural enzymes! love & blessings for healing Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Watch out for that wasabi. It can contain lots of sorbitol. Sorry, I love wasabi too! > Just read the report on inulin from Duncan's website... > and I wanted to share another food idea especially since reading I learned > that BELGIAN ENDIVE (the leaves from chicory) is relatively high in naturally > occuring inulin I LOVE USING The leaves as a natural " wrap " or cup for > chopped eggs, tuna or chicken salad...it seems " bitterness " is a factor in many of > items listed containing natural inulin (dandelion, endive/chicory) in > herbalistic studies, these are hepatic action, helping the liver... > Endive is not inexpensive but yet another alternative to helping us keep out > grains > > other " wrap " ideas not using grains (let's get creative!) you can put > anything in: > LETTUCE GREEN or RED (not iceberg but leaf lettuce) > NORI (seaweed sheets used for sushi and I love that wasabi) > > For me as I recall, including " bitter " foods has helped with curbing some of > the cravings, it is when I neglect to include them that I backslide (damn that > Halloween candy) I must admit it isn't always easy > > hope this helps some of you...share some creativity with me too please...and > try to think raw/uncooked for those natural enzymes! > > love & blessings for healing > Deborah > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Hi , Ask Dr. Saul Pressman, the ozone guru, the tough questions: spressman@... or ask them on the oxyplus or ozonetherapy groups. The easier questions I can handle; for example the exact oils that attract oxygen/ozone are ssential fatty acids in the unsaturates and polyunsaturates. The components of several food oils and their peroxidation indexes are part of a worksheet on my website; you can even add more oils if you know their exact fatty acid composition: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/coconut-oil.html#references Duncan > > Duncan. I would like very much to see the source of this information > or at least could you direct me to it? Thanks, > > > > > Olive oil is 80% available for conversion to ozonides, while coconut > oil > is 7%. If at all possible, avoid therapeutic disappointment by > using the > more potent oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi - I'm an RD working with bariatric patients in Washington DC. I'm relatively new to bariatrics and have been lurking here for several months - I've learned a LOT, which is wonderful because I'm the only RD with our program, and they haven't had ANY RD for 6 mo or so prior to that. Recently several of you have referred to the SORD paper - what is that? Googling SORD brings up a lot of stuff, none of it related to nutrition . . . . Thanks! Kristie Hinton, RD, LD Providence Hospital Washington DC On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:54 PM, < > wrote: Bariatric Nutrition Dietitians Messages In This Digest (6 Messages) 1a. Remedy MD From: Deirdre 2. Los Angeles area bariatric dietitian jobs From: Sheri 3a. renal patients/post op RNY From: melissa miceli 3b. Re: renal patients/post op RNY From: Long, Amy - NHMC 3c. Re: renal patients/post op RNY From: 4. pre-op protein fasts From: darabergen View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Remedy MD Posted by: " Deirdre " williams_deirdre@... williams_deirdre Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:27 pm (PDT) We use this application and have found the customer service to be verygood. It's a web-based program, which makes is easily accessible. It's pretty used friendly, but does require some training. My only complaint is that the pages tend to take some time to load, sodocumentation is a more lengthy progress.Deirdre , MS, RD, LDN Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 2. Los Angeles area bariatric dietitian jobs Posted by: " Sheri " zootnarf@... zootnarf Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:18 pm (PDT) I'm so appreciative for what I have learned from being on this listfor the last few months. Thanks to everyone for your information,advice, and helping hands you give every day. I will be taking (and passing, hopefully!) my RD exam at the end of this week, and I amexcited to start my career as a bariatric dietitian. I hope you alldon't mind if I ask for a little help from this knowledgeable andconnected group. I am looking for a job as a bariatric dietitian in the Los Angelesarea, but I have not had much luck finding a position, yet. I live inWest LA and have a wide range of areas close to me: from Long Beach to the south, the Valley to the north, to east of downtown LA andeverything in between. After losing over 100 pounds myself 15 yearsago, I'm excited to finally be able to work with others to show themthe brand new exciting life I have been able to lead since losing the weight. I am an experienced professional with a previous 10 yearcareer as a Marketing Director, so I believe I have both the skillsand the passion to succeed. I just need to find the right place!If you know of any opportunities in my area or have any advice you could give me on breaking into the field, please email me atzootnarf@.... Thank you again for any help you can give me. Thanks,Sheri Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 3a. renal patients/post op RNY Posted by: " melissa miceli " melmiceli@... melmiceli Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:18 am (PDT) i have a quick question for everyone...i just got to work so i havent really been able to research this so i figured id send out an email first :)i have a post op RNY pt..bun/cr 40/2.0receives dialysis 3x/week - nephrologist has him already on soy milk vs cows milk noted with stage 3 kidney diseasehe is 5'11 i believe he was around 350 lbsi had another rd tell me that she is only going to allow this pt to have 80 gms of pro /day because this was standard with that population i have never heard of this beforei thought recommendations were 1.1-1.4 g/ kg have you ever heard that dialysis pts only need 80 g/dayany articles or websites would be appreciatedthanks Miceli MA, RD, LDN Southern Surgical HospitalSlidell, La936-443-4123 (cell)985-661-2146 (work) Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 3b. Re: renal patients/post op RNY Posted by: " Long, Amy - NHMC " Amy.Long@... peeshooter7 Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:03 am (PDT) I agree with the increased protein for dialysis ptsAmy Long Carrera MS, RD Clinical Dietitian Northridge Hospital Medical Center & Center for Weight Loss Surgery Northridge, CA Amy.Long@... 818-885-8500 x4034 ________________________________From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of melissa miceliSent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:18 AM ; ASPENET; amy hall; AmyHall; anita nash; ashley rogers; becky severns; brian martin; emily sturgis; erin vanstaveren; Heatheur Doby; Jana Wieser; jennifer warren;jodi wellner; Kamesha Burrell; Priore; Kutra; Liz Cabrera;margaret jones; perbhjot; ROSE GUIDRY; roya parsons; shanon r; Srinivasa Pidikiti; sue ourySubject: renal patients/post op RNYi have a quick question for everyone...i just got to work so i haventreally been able to research this so i figured id send out an email first :)i have a post op RNY pt..bun/cr 40/2.0receives dialysis 3x/week - nephrologist has him already on soy milk vscows milknoted with stage 3 kidney diseasehe is 5'11 i believe he was around 350 lbs i had another rd tell me that she is only going to allow this pt to have80 gms of pro /day because this was standard with that populationi have never heard of this beforei thought recommendations were 1.1-1.4 g/ kg have you ever heard that dialysis pts only need 80 g/dayany articles or websites would be appreciatedthanks Miceli MA, RD, LDNSouthern Surgical HospitalSlidell, La936-443-4123 (cell) 985-661-2146 (work) Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 3c. Re: renal patients/post op RNY Posted by: " " JAT8780@... jat8780 Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:23 am (PDT) at least 1.2 gms pro/kg >> I agree with the increased protein for dialysis pts> > Amy Long Carrera MS, RD > Clinical Dietitian > Northridge Hospital Medical Center & > Center for Weight Loss Surgery > Northridge, CA > Amy.Long@... > 818-885-8500 x4034 > > > ________________________________> > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of> melissa miceli> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:18 AM > ; ASPENET; amy hall; Amy> Hall; anita nash; ashley rogers; becky severns; brian martin; emily > sturgis; erin vanstaveren; Heatheur Doby; Jana Wieser; jennifer warren;> jodi wellner; Kamesha Burrell; Priore; Kutra; Liz Cabrera;> margaret jones; perbhjot; ROSE GUIDRY; roya parsons; shanon r; Srinivasa> Pidikiti; sue oury> Subject: renal patients/post op RNY> > > > i have a quick question for everyone...i just got to work so i havent > really been able to research this so i figured id send out an email> first > i have a post op RNY pt..bun/cr 40/2.0> > receives dialysis 3x/week - nephrologist has him already on soy milk vs> cows milk> > noted with stage 3 kidney disease> > he is 5'11 i believe he was around 350 lbs> > i had another rd tell me that she is only going to allow this pt to have> 80 gms of pro /day because this was standard with that population> > i have never heard of this before> > i thought recommendations were 1.1-1.4 g/ kg > > have you ever heard that dialysis pts only need 80 g/day > > any articles or websites would be appreciated> > thanks> > Miceli MA, RD, LDN> Southern Surgical Hospital> Slidell, La> 936-443-4123 (cell)> 985-661-2146 (work) > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 4. pre-op protein fasts Posted by: " darabergen " darabergen@... darabergen Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:55 am (PDT) What do you think is the max amt of carbs appropriate for the 2 week pre-op protein fast? I find compliance is low with less than 50 grams and the SORD paper notes that 100 g/d of carbs decreases nitrogen loss by 40% in modified protein fasts. Would 100 g/day max still help with liver shrinkage? Thanks as always-Darawww.darabergen.com Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity 1 New Members 1 New Files Visit Your Group Health Heartburn or Worse What symptoms are most serious? Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Need traffic? Drive customers With search ads on Need to Reply? Click one of the " Reply " links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest. 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Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Actually it's SOARD not SORD. Some of us refer to it as the " white paper " and it can be accessed at the link below: http://www.soard.org/ > > > > > > I agree with the increased protein for dialysis pts > > > > > > Amy Long Carrera MS, RD > > > Clinical Dietitian > > > Northridge Hospital Medical Center & > > > Center for Weight Loss Surgery > > > Northridge, CA > > > Amy.Long@ > > > 818-885-8500 x4034 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: <BariatricNutritionDietiti ans%40> > > > [mailto: <BariatricNutritio nDietitians%40>] > > On Behalf Of > > > melissa miceli > > > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:18 AM > > > To: <BariatricNutritionDietiti ans%40>; > > ASPENET; amy > > hall; Amy > > > Hall; anita nash; ashley rogers; becky severns; brian martin; emily > > > sturgis; erin vanstaveren; Heatheur Doby; Jana Wieser; jennifer > > warren; > > > jodi wellner; Kamesha Burrell; Priore; Kutra; Liz > > Cabrera; > > > margaret jones; perbhjot; ROSE GUIDRY; roya parsons; shanon r; > > Srinivasa > > > Pidikiti; sue oury > > > Subject: renal patients/post op RNY > > > > > > > > > > > > i have a quick question for everyone...i just got to work so i > > havent > > > really been able to research this so i figured id send out an email > > > first > > > i have a post op RNY pt..bun/cr 40/2.0 > > > > > > receives dialysis 3x/week - nephrologist has him already on soy > > milk vs > > > cows milk > > > > > > noted with stage 3 kidney disease > > > > > > he is 5'11 i believe he was around 350 lbs > > > > > > i had another rd tell me that she is only going to allow this pt to > > have > > > 80 gms of pro /day because this was standard with that population > > > > > > i have never heard of this before > > > > > > i thought recommendations were 1.1-1.4 g/ kg > > > > > > have you ever heard that dialysis pts only need 80 g/day > > > > > > any articles or websites would be appreciated > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Miceli MA, RD, LDN > > > Southern Surgical Hospital > > > Slidell, La > > > 936-443-4123 (cell) > > > 985-661-2146 (work) > > > > > > > Back to top > > <http://mail.google.com/mail/? ui=2 & view=js & name=js & ver=m85aOXYuwtM & am=R_E4pci3adr3aA#11b6b3c0ed270ee e_toc> > > Reply to sender > > <JAT8780@...?Subject=Re%3A%20renal%20patients%2Fpost%20op%20RNY>| Reply > > to group > > < ?Subject=+Re%3A% 20renal%20patients%2Fpost%20op%20RNY>| > > Reply via web post > > </post;_ylc= X3oDMTJydTBkbWltBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzgzOTA0OTYEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MD YxMjA5BG1zZ0lkAzExODQyBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEyMTcyNzQ4NDA- ?act=reply & messageNum=11842> > > Messages in this topic > > </message/11 839;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bXEydDJ1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzgzOTA0OTYEZ3Jwc3BJZ AMxNzA1MDYxMjA5BG1zZ0lkAzExODQyBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyMTc yNzQ4NDAEdHBjSWQDMTE4Mzk->(3) > > > > 4. pre-op protein fasts > > </message/11 840;_ylc=X3oDMTJyc3ZyMGw1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzgzOTA0OTYEZ3Jwc3BJZ AMxNzA1MDYxMjA5BG1zZ0lkAzExODQwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1lAzEyMTc yNzQ4NDA-> Posted > > by: " darabergen " darabergen@... > > <darabergen@...?Subject=+Re%3Apre-op%20protein%20fasts> darabergen > > <darabergen> Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:55 am (PDT) What > > do you think is the max amt of carbs appropriate for the 2 week > > pre-op protein fast? I find compliance is low with less than 50 grams > > and the SORD paper notes that 100 g/d of carbs decreases nitrogen loss > > by 40% in modified protein fasts. Would 100 g/day max still help with > > liver shrinkage? 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Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Click on the yellow oval at the above link. > > Actually it's SOARD not SORD. Some of us refer to it as the " white > paper " and it can be accessed at the link below: > > http://www.soard.org/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hi Kristie, It's SOARD (a journal) and it's available at the ASMBS website: www.asbs.org Let's talk sometime since we're both neighbors! Feel free to call me, GWU-MFA Washington, DC 202.741.2422 On 7/30/08, Kristie Hinton <kristiehinton@...> wrote: Hi - I'm an RD working with bariatric patients in Washington DC. I'm relatively new to bariatrics and have been lurking here for several months - I've learned a LOT, which is wonderful because I'm the only RD with our program, and they haven't had ANY RD for 6 mo or so prior to that. Recently several of you have referred to the SORD paper - what is that? Googling SORD brings up a lot of stuff, none of it related to nutrition . . . . Thanks! Kristie Hinton, RD, LD Providence Hospital Washington DC On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:54 PM, < > wrote: Bariatric Nutrition Dietitians Messages In This Digest (6 Messages) 1a. Remedy MD From: Deirdre 2. Los Angeles area bariatric dietitian jobs From: Sheri 3a. renal patients/post op RNY From: melissa miceli 3b. Re: renal patients/post op RNY From: Long, Amy - NHMC 3c. Re: renal patients/post op RNY From: 4. pre-op protein fasts From: darabergen View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Remedy MD Posted by: " Deirdre " williams_deirdre@... williams_deirdre Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:27 pm (PDT) We use this application and have found the customer service to be verygood. It's a web-based program, which makes is easily accessible. It's pretty used friendly, but does require some training. My only complaint is that the pages tend to take some time to load, sodocumentation is a more lengthy progress.Deirdre , MS, RD, LDN Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 2. Los Angeles area bariatric dietitian jobs Posted by: " Sheri " zootnarf@... zootnarf Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:18 pm (PDT) I'm so appreciative for what I have learned from being on this listfor the last few months. Thanks to everyone for your information,advice, and helping hands you give every day. I will be taking (and passing, hopefully!) my RD exam at the end of this week, and I amexcited to start my career as a bariatric dietitian. I hope you alldon't mind if I ask for a little help from this knowledgeable andconnected group. I am looking for a job as a bariatric dietitian in the Los Angelesarea, but I have not had much luck finding a position, yet. I live inWest LA and have a wide range of areas close to me: from Long Beach to the south, the Valley to the north, to east of downtown LA andeverything in between. After losing over 100 pounds myself 15 yearsago, I'm excited to finally be able to work with others to show themthe brand new exciting life I have been able to lead since losing the weight. I am an experienced professional with a previous 10 yearcareer as a Marketing Director, so I believe I have both the skillsand the passion to succeed. I just need to find the right place!If you know of any opportunities in my area or have any advice you could give me on breaking into the field, please email me atzootnarf@.... Thank you again for any help you can give me. Thanks,Sheri Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 3a. renal patients/post op RNY Posted by: " melissa miceli " melmiceli@... melmiceli Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:18 am (PDT) i have a quick question for everyone...i just got to work so i havent really been able to research this so i figured id send out an email first :)i have a post op RNY pt..bun/cr 40/2.0receives dialysis 3x/week - nephrologist has him already on soy milk vs cows milk noted with stage 3 kidney diseasehe is 5'11 i believe he was around 350 lbsi had another rd tell me that she is only going to allow this pt to have 80 gms of pro /day because this was standard with that population i have never heard of this beforei thought recommendations were 1.1-1.4 g/ kg have you ever heard that dialysis pts only need 80 g/dayany articles or websites would be appreciatedthanks Miceli MA, RD, LDN Southern Surgical HospitalSlidell, La936-443-4123 (cell)985-661-2146 (work) Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 3b. Re: renal patients/post op RNY Posted by: " Long, Amy - NHMC " Amy.Long@... peeshooter7 Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:03 am (PDT) I agree with the increased protein for dialysis ptsAmy Long Carrera MS, RD Clinical Dietitian Northridge Hospital Medical Center & Center for Weight Loss Surgery Northridge, CA Amy.Long@... 818-885-8500 x4034 ________________________________From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Ofmelissa miceli Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:18 AM ; ASPENET; amy hall; Amy Hall; anita nash; ashley rogers; becky severns; brian martin; emilysturgis; erin vanstaveren; Heatheur Doby; Jana Wieser; jennifer warren;jodi wellner; Kamesha Burrell; Priore; Kutra; Liz Cabrera; margaret jones; perbhjot; ROSE GUIDRY; roya parsons; shanon r; SrinivasaPidikiti; sue ourySubject: renal patients/post op RNYi have a quick question for everyone...i just got to work so i havent really been able to research this so i figured id send out an emailfirst :)i have a post op RNY pt..bun/cr 40/2.0receives dialysis 3x/week - nephrologist has him already on soy milk vscows milk noted with stage 3 kidney diseasehe is 5'11 i believe he was around 350 lbsi had another rd tell me that she is only going to allow this pt to have80 gms of pro /day because this was standard with that population i have never heard of this beforei thought recommendations were 1.1-1.4 g/ kg have you ever heard that dialysis pts only need 80 g/dayany articles or websites would be appreciatedthanks Miceli MA, RD, LDNSouthern Surgical HospitalSlidell, La936-443-4123 (cell)985-661-2146 (work) Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 3c. Re: renal patients/post op RNY Posted by: " " JAT8780@... jat8780 Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:23 am (PDT) at least 1.2 gms pro/kg>> I agree with the increased protein for dialysis pts> > Amy Long Carrera MS, RD > Clinical Dietitian > Northridge Hospital Medical Center & > Center for Weight Loss Surgery > Northridge, CA > Amy.Long@... > 818-885-8500 x4034 > > > ________________________________> > From: > [mailto: ] On Behalf Of> melissa miceli > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:18 AM> ; ASPENET; amy hall; Amy> Hall; anita nash; ashley rogers; becky severns; brian martin; emily> sturgis; erin vanstaveren; Heatheur Doby; Jana Wieser; jennifer warren;> jodi wellner; Kamesha Burrell; Priore; Kutra; Liz Cabrera;> margaret jones; perbhjot; ROSE GUIDRY; roya parsons; shanon r; Srinivasa> Pidikiti; sue oury> Subject: renal patients/post op RNY> > > > i have a quick question for everyone...i just got to work so i havent> really been able to research this so i figured id send out an email> first > i have a post op RNY pt..bun/cr 40/2.0 > > receives dialysis 3x/week - nephrologist has him already on soy milk vs> cows milk> > noted with stage 3 kidney disease> > he is 5'11 i believe he was around 350 lbs > > i had another rd tell me that she is only going to allow this pt to have> 80 gms of pro /day because this was standard with that population> > i have never heard of this before> > i thought recommendations were 1.1-1.4 g/ kg > > have you ever heard that dialysis pts only need 80 g/day> > any articles or websites would be appreciated> > thanks> > Miceli MA, RD, LDN> Southern Surgical Hospital> Slidell, La> 936-443-4123 (cell)> 985-661-2146 (work)> Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 4. pre-op protein fasts Posted by: " darabergen " darabergen@... darabergen Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:55 am (PDT) What do you think is the max amt of carbs appropriate for the 2 week pre-op protein fast? I find compliance is low with less than 50 grams and the SORD paper notes that 100 g/d of carbs decreases nitrogen loss by 40% in modified protein fasts. Would 100 g/day max still help with liver shrinkage? Thanks as always-Darawww.darabergen.com Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity 1 New Members 1 New Files Visit Your Group Health Heartburn or Worse What symptoms are most serious? Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Need traffic? Drive customers With search ads on Need to Reply? Click one of the " Reply " links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest. 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