Re: I would like to atalk to someone about enzymes

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Hello and Welcome, Laurie!

You are doing just fine and this is what this forum is intended for.

There is a host of information in the Files section of this group if

you are at the web site, or at www.enzymestuff.com. The

top 'section' covers pretty much the basics in the order most

helpful to read them. There are many related topics too, but those

are sort of 'extras' to enzymes that many families just find helpful

after you get the enzymes under way.

I have two boys and our whole family takes enzymes now (husband took

a little longer to get with the program, but finally his the

arthritis in his knees got bad enough he decided to give it try -

men!).

>>>My 13 year old has allergies to everything and absence seizures

and a few behavior issues(but the behavior issues are minor at this

point).He has been on stict stage one fiengold scince he was 3 years

old. He can't function without it.

Okay, so you have a phenol/salicylate thing going on. No-Fenol

enzymes may be very helpful for him. In addition, epsom salts may

help and that is super cheap to do. If he has a true allergy, not

just a food intolerance or food sensitivity, then enzymes may not

help that much. If he has an anaphylactic reaction to anything, I

would still avoid that continuously and not try enzymes with those

trigger foods. That is a different type of reaction. But enzymes may

help in a round about way for true allergies in that they strengthen

the immune system.

>>>> He is also nitrate, sodium benzoate, high frutose corn syrup,

and any other additive free.

From what I can tell, enzymes work really, really well if any of

these chemicals occur naturally in food (there are histamine

promoting foods, benzoates in foods, etc), but not too well if it is

an artifically made and added chemical.

>>>He eats minimal amounts of glutten and casien.

Peptizyde works phenonmenally on these...if that is something he is

interested in having.

Now, are your boys on any medications or other supplements at the

moment? even a multi-vitamin? Do any of the boys have any official

diagnosis...or unofficial suspected diagnosis?

My older son did not 'perform' well in school because he felt so

bad. But I could teach him at home and I learned his learning style.

Unfortunately his style is not the middle of the Bell Curve and what

they deal with in public school. But enzymes and other measures did

help him improve immensely.

>>>>I have started enzymes and my 6 1/2 did worse for three days,

then better for two days and then worse today,day 6. I had bought a

general enzyme to start him off till I got the peptizyde and the

zyme prime.

What was the name or ingredients in the general enzyme product?

Negative reactions in the beginning are unpleasant but common enough

with any product. Here is a web site page of commonly seen

adjustment effects with explanations on why and what to do about

them. If any seem to be what you are experiencing just post it here:

www.enzymestuff.com/discussionadjustments.htm

The fact there are negatives means the enzymes are 'working' on

something. Usually these effects are over by the third week. Do you

know, or suspect, any yeast or bacteria problems? The proteases such

as Peptizyde can cause die-off because they fight pathogens. The

other thing I am thinking a bit about is the papain and bromelain

enzymes in there. Sometimes these are not tolerated well by those

with phenol sensitivities. However, for some it isn't a problem at

all. Something to keep in mind. The No-Fenol product does not

contain these. Nor does the AFP Peptizyde. Most products do contain

them.

Just keep posting.

.

[Guest guest]

SO did being on enzymes help your husband's arthritis?

Re: I would like to atalk to someone about enzymes

Hello and Welcome, Laurie!

You are doing just fine and this is what this forum is intended for.

There is a host of information in the Files section of this group if

you are at the web site, or at www.enzymestuff.com. The

top 'section' covers pretty much the basics in the order most

helpful to read them. There are many related topics too, but those

are sort of 'extras' to enzymes that many families just find helpful

after you get the enzymes under way.

I have two boys and our whole family takes enzymes now (husband took

a little longer to get with the program, but finally his the

arthritis in his knees got bad enough he decided to give it try -

men!).

>>>My 13 year old has allergies to everything and absence seizures

and a few behavior issues(but the behavior issues are minor at this

point).He has been on stict stage one fiengold scince he was 3 years

old. He can't function without it.

Okay, so you have a phenol/salicylate thing going on. No-Fenol

enzymes may be very helpful for him. In addition, epsom salts may

help and that is super cheap to do. If he has a true allergy, not

just a food intolerance or food sensitivity, then enzymes may not

help that much. If he has an anaphylactic reaction to anything, I

would still avoid that continuously and not try enzymes with those

trigger foods. That is a different type of reaction. But enzymes may

help in a round about way for true allergies in that they strengthen

the immune system.

>>>> He is also nitrate, sodium benzoate, high frutose corn syrup,

and any other additive free.

From what I can tell, enzymes work really, really well if any of

these chemicals occur naturally in food (there are histamine

promoting foods, benzoates in foods, etc), but not too well if it is

an artifically made and added chemical.

>>>He eats minimal amounts of glutten and casien.

Peptizyde works phenonmenally on these...if that is something he is

interested in having.

Now, are your boys on any medications or other supplements at the

moment? even a multi-vitamin? Do any of the boys have any official

diagnosis...or unofficial suspected diagnosis?

My older son did not 'perform' well in school because he felt so

bad. But I could teach him at home and I learned his learning style.

Unfortunately his style is not the middle of the Bell Curve and what

they deal with in public school. But enzymes and other measures did

help him improve immensely.

>>>>I have started enzymes and my 6 1/2 did worse for three days,

then better for two days and then worse today,day 6. I had bought a

general enzyme to start him off till I got the peptizyde and the

zyme prime.

What was the name or ingredients in the general enzyme product?

Negative reactions in the beginning are unpleasant but common enough

with any product. Here is a web site page of commonly seen

adjustment effects with explanations on why and what to do about

them. If any seem to be what you are experiencing just post it here:

www.enzymestuff.com/discussionadjustments.htm

The fact there are negatives means the enzymes are 'working' on

something. Usually these effects are over by the third week. Do you

know, or suspect, any yeast or bacteria problems? The proteases such

as Peptizyde can cause die-off because they fight pathogens. The

other thing I am thinking a bit about is the papain and bromelain

enzymes in there. Sometimes these are not tolerated well by those

with phenol sensitivities. However, for some it isn't a problem at

all. Something to keep in mind. The No-Fenol product does not

contain these. Nor does the AFP Peptizyde. Most products do contain

them.

Just keep posting.

.

[Guest guest]

> Hello and Welcome, Laurie!

>

> You are doing just fine and this is what this forum is intended

for.

> There is a host of information in the Files section of this group

if

> you are at the web site, or at www.enzymestuff.com. The

> top 'section' covers pretty much the basics in the order most

> helpful to read them. There are many related topics too, but those

> are sort of 'extras' to enzymes that many families just find

helpful

> after you get the enzymes under way.

>

> I have two boys and our whole family takes enzymes now (husband

took

> a little longer to get with the program, but finally his the

> arthritis in his knees got bad enough he decided to give it try -

> men!).

>

>

> >>>My 13 year old has allergies to everything and absence seizures

> and a few behavior issues(but the behavior issues are minor at this

> point).He has been on stict stage one fiengold scince he was 3

years

> old. He can't function without it.

>

> Okay, so you have a phenol/salicylate thing going on. No-Fenol

> enzymes may be very helpful for him. In addition, epsom salts may

> help and that is super cheap to do. If he has a true allergy, not

> just a food intolerance or food sensitivity, then enzymes may not

> help that much. If he has an anaphylactic reaction to anything, I

> would still avoid that continuously and not try enzymes with those

> trigger foods. That is a different type of reaction. But enzymes

may

> help in a round about way for true allergies in that they

strengthen

> the immune system.

>

> >>>> He is also nitrate, sodium benzoate, high frutose corn syrup,

> and any other additive free.

>

> From what I can tell, enzymes work really, really well if any of

> these chemicals occur naturally in food (there are histamine

> promoting foods, benzoates in foods, etc), but not too well if it

is

> an artifically made and added chemical.

>

> >>>He eats minimal amounts of glutten and casien.

>

> Peptizyde works phenonmenally on these...if that is something he is

> interested in having.

>

> Now, are your boys on any medications or other supplements at the

> moment? even a multi-vitamin? Do any of the boys have any official

> diagnosis...or unofficial suspected diagnosis?

>

> My older son did not 'perform' well in school because he felt so

> bad. But I could teach him at home and I learned his learning

style.

> Unfortunately his style is not the middle of the Bell Curve and

what

> they deal with in public school. But enzymes and other measures did

> help him improve immensely.

>

>

> >>>>I have started enzymes and my 6 1/2 did worse for three days,

> then better for two days and then worse today,day 6. I had bought a

> general enzyme to start him off till I got the peptizyde and the

> zyme prime.

>

> What was the name or ingredients in the general enzyme product?

> Negative reactions in the beginning are unpleasant but common

enough

> with any product. Here is a web site page of commonly seen

> adjustment effects with explanations on why and what to do about

> them. If any seem to be what you are experiencing just post it here:

>

> www.enzymestuff.com/discussionadjustments.htm

>

> The fact there are negatives means the enzymes are 'working' on

> something. Usually these effects are over by the third week. Do you

> know, or suspect, any yeast or bacteria problems? The proteases

such

> as Peptizyde can cause die-off because they fight pathogens. The

> other thing I am thinking a bit about is the papain and bromelain

> enzs in there.

I'll try to answer your questions. There are known yeast or bacteria

problems in the 13 year old and suspected in the other two. I am not

testing the two younger ones because I'm sure the issues are there

and to know that is usless. I need to know what to do about it. I

have known some of these issues about my 13 year old for more than 6

or 7 years now but he is so sensitive that it is hard for me to work

with him. I did some allternative work with him 5 years ago that sunk

us in a deep hole symptom wise so I am a bit leary of things going

wrong. Should i Use Fromaldehyde Relief by thorne for the die off.

Should I use it for all three kids just in case? I know the 13 year

old has excessive ammonia in his system because they told me that a

couple of years ago after a metabolic urine test. He takes a vitamin

that is made for him of chromium picolinate, CoQ10,Vit B's, C, lipoic

acid and aspartic acid. He has been on that for about 3 years now. It

is the only vitamin he has ever taken that he didn't react to. Should

I stop the Peptizide if it is causing die off? If I don't take

Peptizyde and zyme prime what would I take?? Or give them I should

say. Should I give them No Fenol on a regular basis? MY 13 will Laugh

hysterically if he eats apples. Lose his bladder control if he eats

cucumbers or tomatoes. Gets diarrea if he eats bluberries. Has more

seizures if he eats a regular amount of milk (like a glass of milk).

Gets hives if he eats more than one kiwi every day. He can only eat

kiwis for three days or so before he has too much in his system and

has to stop for a few weeks. He also gets bad gas from some milk

products. He gets angry from wheat (sprouted wheat is ok). Corn syrup

makes him teary eyed(cries over everything). There are other

reactions but I forget them since we haven't eaten those foods in so

long. He's been free of most of those things since he was three but

he has only been reducing his milk intake for abut 2 years now.

I have started the epson salt baths with my two younger ones but my

13 year old usually takes a shower every day. There are no

anaphylactic allergies among my boys that I know of.

The 6 1/2 year old--no medications. reacts to almost everything . No

official diagnosis but unoffficially he may be on the Autistic

spectrum with mild ADHD. I would like to have him on a vit. but have

not found one he can tolerate

the 8 year old. No medications. He doesn't tolerate any that i know

of. His diagnosis is developmental delay--about 1 1/2 years behind

his peers. They said he had appraxia when he was three but I think

they just needed a diagnosis to get him in the system. They also gave

him the diagnosis of eating disorder because he has lots of eating

issues. He use to stuff his mouth too full and he chokes on any thing

sticky. Most of those things he won't eat. He is a picky eater and

small in stature. Food has tbe cold or luke warm for him to eat it.

They say he has decreased feeling in his body especially his face. It

sort of like the feeling you get after the dentist when the novacaine

is just starting to wear off. He also has a speach isssue. He has

been in speach therapy since he was three. He is very understandable

now if you know the general subject he is speaking about.

My 13 year old is diagnosed with petit mal seizures- He only has 20

or so a day now, though since starting the enzymes I think the number

has increased and he is very tired. In third grade his seizres were

at thier worst and he had as many as 200 a day. They are not too much

of a problem at the moment but they still limit what he is able to

do. No contact sports for instance though he is in gymnastics, track

and Dive.

As to teaching my boys at home they are not of a homeschooling

disposition. They would argue and fight over every little issue. I

have tried for a week or two with both my older and my younger but

they are not of the right temperment for that.

I mostly would like to know how to go about this enzyme thing. I

guess I just post everytime I run into issues and someone will try to

help? Thanks for taking the time to answer my last post.

Due to thier intolerances I use a homeopath for my Doctor. She is an

MD and very good. I did vacinate all of my boys.