Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 I think I read these can't be taken together. If that is correct, I am having trouble working out when to give them all. He did not do well having the zinc at night. He needed it in the morning. If I gave the B6 after school (3.15pm) would it still keep him awake at night? Has anybody tried a full dose of P5P at this time of day? Any other clever ideas? What about if I put the P5P in with the frozen enzymes to have at school? Would it degrade and not work, does anyone know? TIA Prue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 In a message dated 23/07/2003 05:55:03 GMT Daylight Time, alevin@... writes: > have high histamin which would likely mean early waking. Excuse me, should I have read this before? Sam has early morning wakening..........for ever - 5.00am...........what to do? Mandi in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Just a note on the P5P and zinc. My son also was up at night. That didn't last though. It went on for about 2 weeks as his body adjusted. Did you give it enough time to straighten out? Carla zinc and B6 >p5p is stronger than b6, how much r u giving >him. i gave up on p5p and went back to 3 mg of >b6 in the afternoon with natures way >chelated magnesium. It's a 50mg cap and just started with a sprinkle this am though I am working on the premise that he has pyroluria. Will see what the serum B6 is when we get it back. He takes Zn picolinate but it didn't work at all at night.. So when you took B6 in the afternoon it didn't keep you awake? Prue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 just a sprinkle? how much in mg do you think? 1 mg may be a lot for a young kid. i don't believe there is any such condition as pyroluria, its just a name for high copper/poor copper utilisation and what gives rise to it. high copper means low zinc and if hes low zinc then he will be prone to excema, intestinal yeast, tinea and fungal infections and have high histamin which would likely mean early waking. i don't understand your comment about zinc picolinate? take enough zinc over a while and you will necessarily become short of copper. i don't take b6 every day but alternate it with a low rda broad spectrum b(cenovis b complex cut up into eights) b6 and magensium, if i drop them that makes sleep more difficult. the great medical fallacy is to generalise from organism caused disease states like say tb where you have one cause is to go over into much more complexed areas like say 'high' copper and call it a condition or disease in the same way tb is. the more u deal with medicine the more you realise how brainless it is the moment you are relying on a doctor you have kissed goodbye to quality of living i exclude surgery that you after research think is necessary from that. medicine is good for organism caused disease, surgery and cancer. anything else is outside its compedence and is the great cultural failure of education that people are so little able to think for themsleves that they can't see this. > >p5p is stronger than b6, how much r u giving >him. i gave up on p5p and went back to 3 mg of >b6 in the afternoon with natures way > >chelated magnesium. > > It's a 50mg cap and just started with a sprinkle this am though I am working on the premise that he has pyroluria. Will see what the serum B6 is when we get it back. He takes Zn picolinate but it didn't work at all at night.. > So when you took B6 in the afternoon it didn't keep you awake? > Prue > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 > I think I read these can't be taken together. I give them together, and I have not had a problem. >> If that is correct, I am having trouble working out when to give them all. He did not do well having the zinc at night. He needed it in the morning. My son did not do well with zinc at night for a long time, now he does okay with it. I would not worry if you need to give it in the morning. >> If I gave the B6 after school (3.15pm) would it still keep him awake at night? Maybe, maybe not. You can try it and see. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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