Re: Nystatin/also Is it possible no yeast reaction to No Fenol?

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In a message dated 4/2/03 12:51:53 pm, sar7119@... writes:

> Compounding. The colour is a horrible looking red. Is Nystatin always

> red in colour or does each pharmacy compound it with its own colour?

>

>

Mine was kind of yellowish, from Squibb. we dont' use it anymore (right

now).

I wanted to ask the group a question. If your child has normal BM's, goes

regularly (at least once a day but no more than twice), and has no rash,

spots, itching, etc, is it possible he has no yeast problems???

I ask because I have been giving Nicky No Fenol and not getting any real

reaction (other than the first day when he was in a bad mood).

He's up to almost a half cap/meal and still no reaction. Just seems fine.

so what's up?

I keep hearing people say they have die off, left right and centre. Am I

misunderstanding symptoms?

if he has no negative reaction to No Fenol, is it possibl he has no yeast

problem?

marti

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In a message dated 4/2/03 5:36:49 pm, kjorn@... writes:

> Are you seeing any other benefits or problems from No-Fenol?

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> .

>

thanks for the reply, karen.

Well, i think it is helping with him tolerating foods that are highly

phenolic, but nicky's reactions to phenols are not always immediate.

sometimes it builds up and then you get the spaced out behaviour and a few

off days.

I've been giving him very high phenols to test out the NF. Tonight I gave

him coconut milk for example. I'll look for red ears before bedtime or as

he goes to sleep.

Yesterday morning I gave him crushed macadamia nuts in his pancakes (I'm

using nut flours instead of rice these days when possible) and macedamia are

just huge in phenols. But no obvious problems so NF must have done its job.

I've seen some red cheeks with the skin appearing a little dry with tiny tiny

dry pimply like things on his cheeks. I saw this with the introduction of

both the other enzymes, but it doesn't bother me yet. We'll see if it goes

away like the other times.

Yeah, so far it it looks good. I'd be grateful for relief from constant

phenol worry. It would expand Nicky's fatty acid intake by giving me more

variety on nuts and seeds. It would make make baking a little easier and

allow for more blueberries/raspberries/etc in muffins (the only way nicky

eats fruit).

So, I'll keep you posted!

Marti

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---Marti Logan only had yeast while I was giving him pears which I

thought was a no phenol food but once I stopped them the rashes quit

appearring. kelly

>> He's up to almost a half cap/meal and still no reaction. Just

seems fine.

> so what's up?

>

> I keep hearing people say they have die off, left right and

centre. Am I

> misunderstanding symptoms?

>

> if he has no negative reaction to No Fenol, is it possibl he has no

yeast

> problem?

>

> marti

>

>

>

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You could call the company and ask about the coloring but right off

it sounds artificial.

I don't know anything about Nystatin except that some use it for

yeast. You could call about the expiration too.

As far as determining yeast, unless there is a fungal rash

or 'yeasty' bms, I don't think there is one conclusive way. I think

they might be able to tell from a stool sample but that is not a

guarantee either. My doctor said that everyone has some yeast even

if it is not out of control, so that may appear in the sample. On

the other hand, you may get a sample that shows a typical amount of

yeast, when you have a really bad problem. This is complicated by

the fact that yeast can be in different places in the body...places

that a stool test may not detect - or a bm may not indicate.

In the yeast control books, most give a checklist of symptoms and if

you have, say, 75% of them they you should consider yeast. But that

the best measure is to simply do a yeast control diet, or take an

antifungal of some kind and see if there is die-off and/or

improvement.

Yeast appears to be common enough but you may not have it. We

didn't. I wouldn't rely on No-Fenol as an indicator either - finding

out it was keen on killing yeast was sort of a pleasant side-effect.

Are you seeing any other benefits or problems from No-Fenol?

.

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I have read here somewhere that if you start with a real low dosage and

gradually increase it, the problems that come from the die off are almost un

noticeable. As I have been reading the posts, this is just my observations from

what others have stated...

BV

Re: Nystatin/also Is it possible no yeast reaction to No

Fenol?

In a message dated 4/2/03 12:51:53 pm, sar7119@... writes:

> Compounding. The colour is a horrible looking red. Is Nystatin always

> red in colour or does each pharmacy compound it with its own colour?

>

>

Mine was kind of yellowish, from Squibb. we dont' use it anymore (right

now).

I wanted to ask the group a question. If your child has normal BM's, goes

regularly (at least once a day but no more than twice), and has no rash,

spots, itching, etc, is it possible he has no yeast problems???

I ask because I have been giving Nicky No Fenol and not getting any real

reaction (other than the first day when he was in a bad mood).

He's up to almost a half cap/meal and still no reaction. Just seems fine.

so what's up?

I keep hearing people say they have die off, left right and centre. Am I

misunderstanding symptoms?

if he has no negative reaction to No Fenol, is it possibl he has no yeast

problem?

marti

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In a message dated 5/2/03 4:04:12 pm, danaatty@... writes:

> When my kids have " die off " , I don't notice any difference, just their

> bms and behaviors get better.

>

You mean AFTER the die-off, right?

or did you mean that their bms and behaviours get worse during die-off?

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> I wanted to ask the group a question. If your child has normal

BM's, goes

> regularly (at least once a day but no more than twice), and has no

rash,

> spots, itching, etc, is it possible he has no yeast problems???

It is possible, yes.

> I keep hearing people say they have die off, left right and centre.

Am I

> misunderstanding symptoms?

When my kids have " die off " , I don't notice any difference, just their

bms and behaviors get better.

Dana

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>

> In a message dated 5/2/03 4:04:12 pm, danaatty@y... writes:

>

>

> > When my kids have " die off " , I don't notice any difference, just

their

> > bms and behaviors get better.

> >

>

> You mean AFTER the die-off, right?

>

> or did you mean that their bms and behaviours get worse during

die-off?

When my kids have yeast, their bms are fluffy and stringy, and one of

them gets hyper. I give GSE and the bms go back to being formed, and

the hyper goes away. Nothing else. No " in-between " stage of bad

behaviors or anything else. Just goes from bad bms and behavior, to

good bms and behavior.

Yes I realize I am lucky LOL

Dana