Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Hi Liz Well I thought I did but it was just a dramatic reduction in stool matter all together. How long has it been? Mandi in UK > Has anyone out there experienced a little constipation in their children > after taking No-Phenol? I haven't found that with the other Houston > enzymes, > only that one. > > My children are young enough and not potty trained, so I notice these > things. > > Liz N. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 - a dramatic reduction in stool matter all together This is the case here as well. -- In , Mum231ASD@a... wrote: > Hi Liz > Well I thought I did but it was just a dramatic reduction in stool matter all > together. How long has it been? > Mandi in UK > > > Has anyone out there experienced a little constipation in their children > > after taking No-Phenol? I haven't found that with the other Houston > > enzymes, > > only that one. > > > > My children are young enough and not potty trained, so I notice these > > things. > > > > Liz N. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2003 Report Share Posted February 1, 2003 Yes, this can happen. I hope others will jump in with any other ideas, but I would say you can lower the dose a little, or keep the dose and add a little magnesium (build up slowly). Also, keep in mind what wrote in the Files section about No- Fenol: " With No-Fenol, some people noted a decrease in total quantity of waste (not to be confused with actual constipation where the waste is just too condensed and building up). Once again, there are very detailed and practical reasons why these enzymes are producing the benefits seen, and help a wide range of conditions. " > Has anyone out there experienced a little constipation in their children > after taking No-Phenol? I haven't found that with the other Houston enzymes, > only that one. > > My children are young enough and not potty trained, so I notice these things. > > Liz N. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 Hi Sally He's back to once a day now, good looking poop It was just when we started for a few days we had very little, seemed a bit like he wanted to do more but there wasn;t any. Don't know if that helps, Sam is non verbal so he can't tell me MAndi in UK > We've seen the same. So on this note, let me ask all of you using no > fenol and seeing a decrease in poop quantity. How often are your > kiddos going poop? Tom usually only goes every other day, unless > we've added a new probiotic or something to mix things up. But seems > like he always reverts back to going every other day. I think this > started regularly around the time we began no fenol. > > The poops look good, but I wish he was eliminating every day - > especially since we will begin chelation soon. Should I be concerned? > > Thanks! > > Peace and grace, > > Sally, mom to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 We've seen the same. So on this note, let me ask all of you using no fenol and seeing a decrease in poop quantity. How often are your kiddos going poop? Tom usually only goes every other day, unless we've added a new probiotic or something to mix things up. But seems like he always reverts back to going every other day. I think this started regularly around the time we began no fenol. The poops look good, but I wish he was eliminating every day - especially since we will begin chelation soon. Should I be concerned? Thanks! Peace and grace, Sally, mom to Tom, 8yo dx AS but on the road to recovery Ben, 5yo NT by the grace of God Gracie, 2yo NT and unvaccinated > > Has anyone out there experienced a little constipation in their > children > > after taking No-Phenol? I haven't found that with the other > Houston enzymes, > > only that one. > > > > My children are young enough and not potty trained, so I notice > these things. > > > > Liz N. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2003 Report Share Posted February 2, 2003 > We've seen the same. So on this note, let me ask all of you using no > fenol and seeing a decrease in poop quantity. How often are your > kiddos going poop? Once per day, sometimes every 36 hours. > The poops look good, but I wish he was eliminating every day - > especially since we will begin chelation soon. Should I be concerned? I am not concerned when my son goes every 36 hours. Does your son strain to go, or is the bm hard or large or otherwise difficult to pass? If it is not, I don't know that I would worry about it. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 Thanks Lynn, Will you let me know what you do. We have a much anticipated appointment with a Pediatric Neurologist on Monday and I really want my son to feel well. He doesn't do well in an " evaluation environment " even when he feels his best so I can't imagine how Monday will be. On the other hand, since starting the enzymes he is much happier and calmer and has had normal BM's for the first time in a very long time, so I hate to stop. ??? KIM No Phenol Hello everyone, I started to give my son 1/2 capule of NF almost for one week. I notece whenever he takes the NF he gets some sines like rubing his eyes and his nose and more mocuse is this normal during the first 3 weeks? He is also taking (1) caplet of primal defence am and pm I am seeing good result with it at least the rush he is haveing all over his boady has impruved a lot, but when I give him the NF I see the rush coming back a little bit Is this normal please write back. Thanks Menbere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 My son is rubbing or wiping his eyes and his nose (more so his eyes) too. We're just doing Peptizyde and Zyme-Prime. He's still coughing too, sometimes barking like a seal and other times it is the mucus. He had a fever last night, but not today. He isn't eating or drinking much of anything. His behavior is improving. What could this be? I thought if it was yeast die off his behavior would get worse? His stools are normal for the first time in a very long time too. No Phenol Hello everyone, I started to give my son 1/2 capule of NF almost for one week. I notece whenever he takes the NF he gets some sines like rubing his eyes and his nose and more mocuse is this normal during the first 3 weeks? He is also taking (1) caplet of primal defence am and pm I am seeing good result with it at least the rush he is haveing all over his boady has impruved a lot, but when I give him the NF I see the rush coming back a little bit Is this normal please write back. Thanks Menbere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 I wonder if you have two different things going on. Perhaps the rash was due to adjustment to the No-fenol and perhaps he is also coming down with the flu. I would keep him off the No-fenol until he gets over the other problems, then consider trying it again at a very low dose. My son had a rash when he first started enzymes. It can be from toxins being released. Vitamin B also gave him a rash. > My son is rubbing or wiping his eyes and his nose (more so his eyes) too. We're just doing Peptizyde and Zyme-Prime. He's still coughing too, sometimes barking like a seal and other times it is the mucus. He had a fever last night, but not today. He isn't eating or drinking much of anything. His behavior is improving. What could this be? I thought if it was yeast die off his behavior would get worse? His stools are normal for the first time in a very long time too. > No Phenol > > > Hello everyone, > I started to give my son 1/2 capule of NF almost for one week. I notece > whenever he takes the NF he gets some sines like rubing his eyes and > his nose and more mocuse is this normal during the first 3 weeks? He is > also taking (1) caplet of primal defence am and pm I am seeing good > result with it at least the rush he is haveing all over his boady has > impruved a lot, but when I give him the NF I see the rush coming back a > little bit Is this normal please write back. > Thanks Menbere > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 Hi, , Kim, and everyone I have been giving him 1/2 capsule NF (2) times a day every day I started 1/4 capsule at the begining He was ok with it that is why I up it to 1/2 capsule. I decied to give NF because his organic acid test show yeast overgrow and his ears are red all the time I wanted to treat yeast with the GSE I assumed he has a problem breaking down phenolic food. He has been on GFCF Diet for almost a year we have the rash that never go awy completly because of that it might not be he is having a bad reaction to the NF. I can say for sure the probiotic is helping a lot with the rash I haven't started yet the GSE I was trying to up the NF to (1)capsule 2 times a day and introduce the GSE I don't think he will tolerat the whole capsule Hi dose not seems to have a lot of those Sinus symptems for the last 2 days. The OT profile that are out of normal range are the folowing. Compound Reference Range Patient Value For Yeast/Fungal Citramalic 0.0 - 2.0 2.77 High arabinose 0.0 - 47.0 77.77 High For Krebs Cycle Citric 180.0 -560.0 795.95 High For Neurotransmitters HVA 0.0 - 7.5 3.84 VMA 1.0 -4.7 7.50 For Pyrimidines Uracil 0.0 - 22.0 27.63 For Fatty Acid Metabolites Suberic 0.0 - 2.0 5.15 For Vitamin Indicators ascorbic 10.0 - 200.0 7.27 L In the Miscellaneous Hippuric 10.0 - 400.0 697.66 H Because of this result I find out about the yeast we are suplementing with Krikmans lob B-12 with folic acid, Vitamin C, Yeast aid I add probiotic primal defense and yesterday I started culturlle, NF I have a plan to add Gse and Enzyme complete from Krikmans Lab Is this a good way to go? any idea , Andy anyone in the group will be greatly appriciated. Anyone using Enzyme complet from Krikman Lab. bad or good experience will be helpfull Please write back. Thanks so much Menbere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 > Is it best to give the No Phenol just once a day, no matter what my son is > eating? Or should I give it right before he eats high-phenol foods? For my son, I had to give it every time he ate. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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