Re: new member intro & peptizye /zyme question

Posted July 11, 2003 · July 11, 2003

Hi, Debra;

Welcome to the group!

Yes, start slowly. Based on this first reaction, I would keep it at 1 cap of

each per day

for several days.

If he is overweight, is there a chance he may also be diabetic? I'm wondering

if the

enzymes may have caused a hypoglycemic effect? That would be rare, but not out

of

the question. May be the reason for the lethargy. Perhaps using only Pep next

time

would be an idea, see if the same reaction occurs. Then try Zyme Prime only for

the

same.

Keep us posted.

Devin

> Hello

> My name is Debra and i have an 11 yr old son with mild(ish) aspergers

> syndrome..we took him out of school 4 yrs ago when he was 7 as he was

> feeling suicidal with the stress of the crowded classroom environment

> (and the mindnumbingly boring UK national curriculum) 3 yrs on an

> autonomous style of home education saw remarkable changes in him and

> at last his intellect could be satiated. However this last year

> puberty has kicked in with a huge increase in weight gain and a

> lethargy like ive not seen before:-( He craves wheat products and

> gets through an alarming amount of bread :-/ and his sensitiviy to

> sounds is getting worse ( he cant bear the hoover the hairdryer the

> washing machine! its really difficult :-( So we decided to try a

> gluten free diet to see if his energy levels would go back up and the

> dark circles around his eyes would go ( he gets lots of sleep but it

> doesnt show) He only lasted 4 days! he was in such a state that i

> decided removing the wheat would cause more probs than benefits . I

> heard very recently about enzymes so we have ordered the Housten

> peptyzide and zyme prime..they came this morning and hes taken 1 of

> each with his breakfast meal..Im going to introduce them slowly..as

> hes not gluten or casien free he could have quite a big reaction.

> Having said that his intial reaction was to look and feel very spaced

> out..he couldnt keep hs eyes open and wanted to lie down straight

> away..Is there anyone else whos had this reaction trying the enzymes

> with a non GFCF diet?

> Glad i found this group..its going to be a big help :-)

>

> Regards

> Debra.

Posted July 11, 2003 · July 11, 2003

Hi Debz ,

( waving madly!!)

good to have a friendly face here.

take care

Julea )

Posted July 11, 2003 · July 11, 2003

Debra,

My son has been on Houston's Peptizyde and Zyme Prime two weeks tomorrow and all

he wanted to do the first week was sleep and rest too. He turns three this

Sunday. He developed a cough with mucus within two days of starting the

enzymes, so I wasn't sure if he was coming down with something and that is why

he was tired or if it was all enzyme related. Everyone in the group here was

and are very helpful though so you're in good hands. I can tell you that this

week the cough and the tiredness are improving. We weren't GFCF either. We

just ordered the enzymes and started them when they came in the mail. He wasn't

drinking milk though. He's never really cared for it and once I took it away he

never wanted it even after I tried to reintroduce again after the enzymes. KIM

new member intro & peptizye /zyme question

Hello

My name is Debra and i have an 11 yr old son with mild(ish) aspergers

syndrome..we took him out of school 4 yrs ago when he was 7 as he was

feeling suicidal with the stress of the crowded classroom environment

(and the mindnumbingly boring UK national curriculum) 3 yrs on an

autonomous style of home education saw remarkable changes in him and

at last his intellect could be satiated. However this last year

puberty has kicked in with a huge increase in weight gain and a

lethargy like ive not seen before:-( He craves wheat products and

gets through an alarming amount of bread :-/ and his sensitiviy to

sounds is getting worse ( he cant bear the hoover the hairdryer the

washing machine! its really difficult :-( So we decided to try a

gluten free diet to see if his energy levels would go back up and the

dark circles around his eyes would go ( he gets lots of sleep but it

doesnt show) He only lasted 4 days! he was in such a state that i

decided removing the wheat would cause more probs than benefits . I

heard very recently about enzymes so we have ordered the Housten

peptyzide and zyme prime..they came this morning and hes taken 1 of

each with his breakfast meal..Im going to introduce them slowly..as

hes not gluten or casien free he could have quite a big reaction.

Having said that his intial reaction was to look and feel very spaced

out..he couldnt keep hs eyes open and wanted to lie down straight

away..Is there anyone else whos had this reaction trying the enzymes

with a non GFCF diet?

Glad i found this group..its going to be a big help :-)

Regards

Debra.

Posted July 11, 2003 · July 11, 2003

> > Hello

> > My name is Debra and i have an 11 yr old son with mild(ish)

aspergers

> > syndrome..we took him out of school 4 yrs ago when he was 7 as he

was

> > feeling suicidal with the stress of the crowded classroom

environment

> > (and the mindnumbingly boring UK national curriculum) 3 yrs on

an

> > autonomous style of home education saw remarkable changes in him

and

> > at last his intellect could be satiated. However this last year

> > puberty has kicked in with a huge increase in weight gain and a

> > lethargy like ive not seen before:-( He craves wheat products and

> > gets through an alarming amount of bread :-/ and his sensitiviy

to

> > sounds is getting worse ( he cant bear the hoover the hairdryer

the

> > washing machine! its really difficult :-( So we decided to try a

> > gluten free diet to see if his energy levels would go back up and

the

> > dark circles around his eyes would go ( he gets lots of sleep but

it

> > doesnt show) He only lasted 4 days! he was in such a state that i

> > decided removing the wheat would cause more probs than benefits .

I

> > heard very recently about enzymes so we have ordered the Housten

> > peptyzide and zyme prime..they came this morning and hes taken 1

of

> > each with his breakfast meal..Im going to introduce them

slowly..as

> > hes not gluten or casien free he could have quite a big reaction.

> > Having said that his intial reaction was to look and feel very

spaced

> > out..he couldnt keep hs eyes open and wanted to lie down straight

> > away..Is there anyone else whos had this reaction trying the

enzymes

> > with a non GFCF diet?

> > Glad i found this group..its going to be a big help :-)

> >

> > Regards

> > Debra.

Posted July 11, 2003 · July 11, 2003

>

> My son has been on Houston's Peptizyde and Zyme Prime two weeks

tomorrow and all he wanted to do the first week was sleep and rest to

Hi Kim..this is useful to know, its also good to go through this with

other parents who are not starting from a GFCF diet as well :-)

I did wonder if the tiredness was a reaction to having experienced

thorough digestion for once! especially as his hunger level really

dropped just after having breakfast with enzymes. He is really keen

to take them, he even managed to take the caps whole with water (much

to my surprise!)

Thanks again

Debra.

Posted July 11, 2003 · July 11, 2003

Hi Debra. I have a 9 and 11 year old...some of the 'older' kids.

My sons found the school days loooooong and it was really hard on

the first one until we founds a medicine and enzymes. I still think

the days are too long, though. I am keeping an eye on that puberty

thing too, so if you have any suggestions let me know.

>>>He craves wheat products and gets through an alarming amount of

bread

This seems common for typical boys though because of the increase

rate of growth. There even seems to be a weight gain before a spurt.

Does he do any type of physical exercise?

>>>>and his sensitiviy to sounds is getting worse ( he cant bear the

hoover the hairdryer the washing machine! its really difficult

Yes, my older son was insanely sound sensitive for a long time. He

is much better now. Does your son sleep solidly even though he is

asleep? If he is not getting enough of the really deep sleep, this

can really make one more sensitive to everything. Just imagine how

chipper any adult would be sleep-deprived night after night. We

eventually found a medicine that was geared to helping induce deep

sound sleep and pain, and with this my son's sensory problem

plummeted. The doctor said the pain regulation is tied to some

extent to deep sleep but they don't know exactly how it works.

>>>>i decided removing the wheat would cause more probs than

benefits .

Same here. Particularly with kids that are no longer preschoolers,

socializing and activities can be a major problem with food issues.

We tried GFCF diet for a couple months before Peptizyde came out.

Then it worked for us and switched immediately. My boys also remind

us about enzymes and always take them.

>>> Having said that his intial reaction was to look and feel very

spaced out..he couldnt keep hs eyes open and wanted to lie down

straight away..Is there anyone else whos had this reaction trying

the enzymes with a non GFCF diet?

This is not unusual because there is a lot of adjustment going on

inside the body. If he has any bacteria or yeast overgrowth there

can be die-off which can look like cold or flu symptoms. Even so,

when you change diet or digestion there can be a shifting in the

bacteria population or blood sugar levels. With older people, there

may be 'gunk' and undigested stuff in the gut that the enzymes would

be cleaning out. One of my sons had the loose stools for a couple

days but the other didn't. It varies by person. Here is a link to

possible adjustment effects:

http://www.enzymestuff.com/discussionadjustments.htm

.

Posted July 11, 2003 · July 11, 2003

Excessive fatigue *can* be indicative of a yeast overgrowth. Does

he complain of vague muscle aches or headaches? All of that bread

could be feeding quite a party of yeast.

Ever had problems with it before?

Just thinking...

Pam in WA

> Hello

> My name is Debra and i have an 11 yr old son with mild(ish)

aspergers

> syndrome..we took him out of school 4 yrs ago when he was 7 as he

was

> feeling suicidal with the stress of the crowded classroom

environment

> (and the mindnumbingly boring UK national curriculum) 3 yrs on an

> autonomous style of home education saw remarkable changes in him

and

> at last his intellect could be satiated. However this last year

> puberty has kicked in with a huge increase in weight gain and a

> lethargy like ive not seen before:-( He craves wheat products and

> gets through an alarming amount of bread :-/ and his sensitiviy to

> sounds is getting worse ( he cant bear the hoover the hairdryer

the

> washing machine! its really difficult :-( So we decided to try a

> gluten free diet to see if his energy levels would go back up and

the

> dark circles around his eyes would go ( he gets lots of sleep but

it

> doesnt show) He only lasted 4 days! he was in such a state that i

> decided removing the wheat would cause more probs than benefits .

I

> heard very recently about enzymes so we have ordered the Housten

> peptyzide and zyme prime..they came this morning and hes taken 1

of

> each with his breakfast meal..Im going to introduce them

slowly..as

> hes not gluten or casien free he could have quite a big reaction.

> Having said that his intial reaction was to look and feel very

spaced

> out..he couldnt keep hs eyes open and wanted to lie down straight

> away..Is there anyone else whos had this reaction trying the

enzymes

> with a non GFCF diet?

> Glad i found this group..its going to be a big help :-)

>

> Regards

> Debra.

Posted July 12, 2003 · July 12, 2003

> > Hello

> > My name is Debra and i have an 11 yr old son with mild(ish)

> aspergers

> > syndrome..we took him out of school 4 yrs ago when he was 7 as he

> was

> > feeling suicidal with the stress of the crowded classroom

> environment

> > (and the mindnumbingly boring UK national curriculum) 3 yrs on

an

> > autonomous style of home education saw remarkable changes in him

> and

> > at last his intellect could be satiated. However this last year

> > puberty has kicked in with a huge increase in weight gain and a

> > lethargy like ive not seen before:-( He craves wheat products and

> > gets through an alarming amount of bread :-/ and his sensitiviy

to

> > sounds is getting worse ( he cant bear the hoover the hairdryer

> the

> > washing machine! its really difficult :-( So we decided to try a

> > gluten free diet to see if his energy levels would go back up and

> the

> > dark circles around his eyes would go ( he gets lots of sleep but

> it

> > doesnt show) He only lasted 4 days! he was in such a state that i

> > decided removing the wheat would cause more probs than benefits .

> I

> > heard very recently about enzymes so we have ordered the Housten

> > peptyzide and zyme prime..they came this morning and hes taken 1

> of

> > each with his breakfast meal..Im going to introduce them

> slowly..as

> > hes not gluten or casien free he could have quite a big reaction.

> > Having said that his intial reaction was to look and feel very

> spaced

> > out..he couldnt keep hs eyes open and wanted to lie down straight

> > away..Is there anyone else whos had this reaction trying the

> enzymes

> > with a non GFCF diet?

> > Glad i found this group..its going to be a big help :-)

> >

> > Regards

> > Debra.

Posted July 12, 2003 · July 12, 2003

> walking tires him enourmously..he has an exagerated lumbar curve and

> what with the weight gain his back is aching.

Once the enzyme adjustment has passed, consider giving him zinc. I

have back problems and zinc is very helpful.

The yeast ideas are also good

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Enzymes will probably help, altho you might want to keep it down to

one capsule per day for a week or so, then increase to two, etc.

Dana

Posted July 13, 2003 · July 13, 2003

While my son was GFCF, I was not, I ate what I wanted when ph wasn't with

me. Yes, lethargy was problematic for me with the start of enzymes.