Re: enzymes...diet...zinc...chelation

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In a message dated 19/1/03 10:11:37 pm, alevin@... writes:

> if the metals transport problems are mild it is not necessary to

> chelate, selenium and other mineral supplementation should be

> sufficent.

>

Can I just ask you if you think that there is a kind of time limit for our

kids? I've heard that up to 8 years old you can see dramatic improvements

by chelation (and I mean the DMSA/ALA/DMSO kind but after that not so much.

What's your take on this. Anyone else?

Marti

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>

> Can I just ask you if you think that there is a kind of time limit

for our

> kids? I've heard that up to 8 years old you can see dramatic

improvements

> by chelation (and I mean the DMSA/ALA/DMSO kind but after that not

so much.

Andy Cutler once told me that at age 8, something begins maturing in

the brain. I forget exactly what, but something is whispering in my

ear " adrenal function " . But anyway, I guess at age 8 the brain starts

doing things, so chelating before that age is more helpful, so that

part can mature without the interference of metals. But my #1 is age

8-1/2 and I am seeing improvement with him, and others are chelating

even older kids, so it is not a " magic cut off age " that chelating

after that age would be pointless.

That's all I know tho.

Dana

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Hi

Interesting I have efriend here in UK, who is finding yeast flare ups on MTP

also which is making me think its more a metals moving out thing than

chelator????

Who knows, I just keep going............

Mandi

> The yeast problem... I don't think ALA aggravates it more than DMSA. I think

> when you chelate your body needs a lot of support (vitamins/supplements)

> and

> I think that if you give your body enough nutrients, if you keep your

> neutrophils happy (as somebody else put it) you shouldn't have problems.

> Well, not so big as some parents seem to have.

> Actually I always had the impression that ALA doesn't aggravate yeast so

> bad

> as DMSA does.

>

>

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This is my biggie concern right now since my daughter turns 9 next

month...I feel time is of the essence. I worry that she will start

having a hard time in school during chelation,but feel like I can't

afford to wait until summer break....I keep putting the hair test off

for one reason and another (we are moving into a new house soon...I

would hate to really throw her.) What to do.....

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-- In , " danaatty <danaatty@y...> "

<danaatty@y...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Can I just ask you if you think that there is a kind of time

limit

> for our

> > kids? I've heard that up to 8 years old you can see dramatic

> improvements

> > by chelation (and I mean the DMSA/ALA/DMSO kind but after that

not

> so much.

>

>

> Andy Cutler once told me that at age 8, something begins maturing

in

> the brain. I forget exactly what, but something is whispering in

my

> ear " adrenal function " . But anyway, I guess at age 8 the brain

starts

> doing things, so chelating before that age is more helpful, so that

> part can mature without the interference of metals. But my #1 is

age

> 8-1/2 and I am seeing improvement with him, and others are

chelating

> even older kids, so it is not a " magic cut off age " that chelating

> after that age would be pointless.

>

> That's all I know tho.

>

> Dana

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> I keep putting the hair test off

> for one reason and another

It is A LOT easier to just buy some ALA and try it. Small doses, every 3

hours (including during the night), for a few days then take a break. Give

vitamins, supplements, minerals... watch her

You will see for sure if your daughter needs chelation or not.

Valentina

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Valentina,

You know much more about chelation that I do, but if you were to jsut

try chelation without first testing would't it be best to go with

DMSA at first in case there were copper, sulphur or yeast issues?

Just wondering...

Steve

> > I keep putting the hair test off

> > for one reason and another

>

> It is A LOT easier to just buy some ALA and try it. Small doses,

every 3

> hours (including during the night), for a few days then take a

break. Give

> vitamins, supplements, minerals... watch her

> You will see for sure if your daughter needs chelation or not.

>

>

> Valentina

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> You know much more about chelation that I do,

Thank you

The truth is that I don't know that much. I try to figure out what the heck

is happening and I read a lot about it...

> but if you were to jsut

> try chelation without first testing would't it be best to go with

> DMSA at first in case there were copper, sulphur or yeast issues?

There are a lot of problems that might appear with ALA and also A LOT of

problems that might appear with DMSA use. I don't know Steve. I guess it

depends on your child, but as you probably know already, even when you test

and test and test and you think you do exactly what's best as the tests

indicate, it's still not always the best thing, your child might still have

problems, who knows why... some other " thing " that you didn't think about

yet.

In my opinion... I like ALA better. Somehow I am a little more afraid of

DMSA. With ALA I think the only serious problem is copper (if it's too high),

but other than that... everything can be taken care of, while you chelate.

(if you have a copper problem you have to take some time... about 2-3 weeks I

think, to take a lot of zinc, and try to lower it).

The yeast problem... I don't think ALA aggravates it more than DMSA. I think

when you chelate your body needs a lot of support (vitamins/supplements) and

I think that if you give your body enough nutrients, if you keep your

neutrophils happy (as somebody else put it) you shouldn't have problems.

Well, not so big as some parents seem to have.

Actually I always had the impression that ALA doesn't aggravate yeast so bad

as DMSA does.

When I started chelation (a year ago) I was in Romania. I didn't have any of

the chelators, I didn't have any possibility to test for anything... But I

was convinced that I have to try chelation, because my kid was in a very sad

condition. Pretty low functioning and... he was just eating me alive And

besides, I didn't have ANY doctor that had any idea about " what " and " how " .

I started chelation with ALA. I had no idea if it will work or not.

Well... now, after a year, my son is not autistic anymore. He improved A LOT!

And I really hope that all the parents will find the courage to try

chelation. It's scary, but it's not so complicated. It only sounds like

Valentina

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> Interesting I have efriend here in UK, who is finding yeast flare ups on MTP

> also which is making me think its more a metals moving out thing than

> chelator????

I don't know Mandi... When I started chelation, my son was full of yeast and

parasites. After about 4 months (more or less, I can't remember exactly anymore)

he got better and better, and I can't say we had a real problem since then. We

never used any anti-fungal or anything... Just the usual vitamins/supplements.

Who knows...

Somehow I have this theory that when you give your body the necessary resources

to

fight the " bad stuff " it will always do a better job than you would using

anti-fungals and other drugs... (just my impression).

Valentina