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I know how you feel. Yesterday my son (who will turn three this Sunday) was

formally diagnosed with Autism. I thought I was prepared, but as soon as I got

into the car the tears just started flowing. Thankfully my son was asleep b/c I

don't know if I could have held back the tears until we got home. My husband

was in shock/denial. It's like a part of me knew it but another part of me

hoped the doctor would say it was something else. I worry about his future -

will he be able to live on his own, fall in love, get married, have children,

have a career, be self-sufficient? Will he be picked on in school and

ostracized and have his feelings hurt all the time? He is so sweet and so

affectionate. At this stage, I don't think he realizes there is anything

different about him and I see how some of the little kids look at him at the

park or at gym class when he tries to talk to them and its just baby jargon. My

heart just breaks for the hardships that lie ahead for him. People can be so

cruel. A part of me wishes he could just stay 3 forever and I could take care

of him and shelter him from everything bad in the world. I worry about my

daughter and what financial & /or emotional burden she may be left with when me

and my husband pass away. Anyway, you're not alone. I guess everyone has

their highs and lows. Yesterday was a very sad day for us, but on Sunday we're

having a Blue's Clue's Birthday Party! :-) Hang in there! KIM

OT: having a hard time as son gets older

Hey all. I'm just having such a hard time lately and my support group no

longer meets so I'm hoping I can just " vent " a little here or perhaps find

out that there is at least one other person who feels as I do.

My precious Sammy is going to be 4 next month and I am having such a hard

time these days. First let me say that he has made progress this past year.

If I look back to where he was this time last year, I probably wouldn't

recognize him and I am very happy with that....the thing is, I guess I had

my hopes up that he would have made greater gains this year. When he was

younger, his developmental delays just didn't seem as bad b/c so many kids

develop at different stages. But now that he's getting older, the

differences between where he is in relation to where NT children are at this

age are just getting much more pronounced. I know I know, I know, you should

never compare children but it's so hard when I get together with friends who

all had children around the same time, or worse, later than me. It's hard

not to look at how advanced their children are.

Now I find myself getting depressed and sinking back into that dark place of

" is this as good as he's going to get " and " what's going to happen to him " .

I try so hard to stay away from that place b/c I know you have to take it

one hour at a time but sometimes that just gets so hard and I find myself

looking ahead....

I suppose the fact that I'm PMSing and getting ready to move to a new state

in a few weeks doesn't help. Nor does the fact that Sammy had 3 weeks off

from school and is having a hard time adjusting and that he's been having

some real bad days. I had myself convinced that he was on the mild end of

the spectrum but now I'm thinking differently. I mean he's almost 4, still

mostly nonverbal although he tries so hard (breaks my heart that I cannot

understand him), can't suck from a straw, can't blow bubbles and WILL NOT

try any new foods.

He is so beautiful and I love him so much but I HATE the fact that

everything is so HARD for him. It just breaks my heart. It just isn't fair

that this has happened to our children.

OK, I've taken up enough of your time. I hope to find a support group or

good therapist when I move but in the meantime, am I the only one to go

through these dark phases? I'm guessingf I'm not. How do you allcope with

these feelings?

Thanks for listening. I'm going to go have a good cry now. Maybe that will

help.

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You sound like me a few months ago when my son, Jake, was turning

four. You are not alone in the way you feel. I find it much easier to hang

around other families with special needs kids these days...PMSing does

not help the situation any. Find a group in your new location ASAP!

Remember also that our kids have their cycles of ups and downs...

keep your chin up and your sights on the up times!

OT: having a hard time as son gets older

> Hey all. I'm just having such a hard time lately and my support group no

> longer meets so I'm hoping I can just " vent " a little here or perhaps find

> out that there is at least one other person who feels as I do.

>

> My precious Sammy is going to be 4 next month and I am having such a hard

> time these days. First let me say that he has made progress this past

year.

> If I look back to where he was this time last year, I probably wouldn't

> recognize him and I am very happy with that....the thing is, I guess I had

> my hopes up that he would have made greater gains this year. When he was

> younger, his developmental delays just didn't seem as bad b/c so many kids

> develop at different stages. But now that he's getting older, the

> differences between where he is in relation to where NT children are at

this

> age are just getting much more pronounced. I know I know, I know, you

should

> never compare children but it's so hard when I get together with friends

who

> all had children around the same time, or worse, later than me. It's hard

> not to look at how advanced their children are.

>

> Now I find myself getting depressed and sinking back into that dark place

of

> " is this as good as he's going to get " and " what's going to happen to

him " .

> I try so hard to stay away from that place b/c I know you have to take it

> one hour at a time but sometimes that just gets so hard and I find myself

> looking ahead....

>

> I suppose the fact that I'm PMSing and getting ready to move to a new

state

> in a few weeks doesn't help. Nor does the fact that Sammy had 3 weeks off

> from school and is having a hard time adjusting and that he's been having

> some real bad days. I had myself convinced that he was on the mild end of

> the spectrum but now I'm thinking differently. I mean he's almost 4, still

> mostly nonverbal although he tries so hard (breaks my heart that I cannot

> understand him), can't suck from a straw, can't blow bubbles and WILL NOT

> try any new foods.

>

> He is so beautiful and I love him so much but I HATE the fact that

> everything is so HARD for him. It just breaks my heart. It just isn't fair

> that this has happened to our children.

>

> OK, I've taken up enough of your time. I hope to find a support group or

> good therapist when I move but in the meantime, am I the only one to go

> through these dark phases? I'm guessingf I'm not. How do you allcope with

> these feelings?

>

> Thanks for listening. I'm going to go have a good cry now. Maybe that will

> help.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> My precious Sammy is going to be 4 next month and I am having such a

hard

> time these days.

I am sorry you are having a hard time. I have those days also. I

just posted this message on my local board [maybe you can find a local

board for your new area] which was addressing the question posted by

someone " what was the most effective biomedical intervention you have

done " , so not exactly the same issue as your message here, but you

might find something here to help you.

~~~~~

I can't give you info on testing, because when I was looking for a

doctor a few years ago, none of them would consider accepting my son

as a patient, because of his dx. So I had to learn everything myself,

by trial and error. Everything I have done with him has been OTC.

My son was a very low functioning Kanner child. He was not really a

diet responder because he did not tolerate basically any foods. HNI

enzymes helped tremendously during that time.

It has been four years since his diagnosis, he is age 7 now. He no

longer qualifies as autistic, altho still severely language delayed,

expressive about age 2yo, receptive about age 3yo. Recently he has

made some amazing progress and he is writing words! I use a VB/DTT

approach with him with difficult concepts, otherwise we just sit at

the table [he and his brother] and I teach them like a typical

preschool setting.

The most beneficial intervention I did was chelation. It is upsetting

to me to realize just how metal toxic he must have been. We have

completed 72 rounds of ALA chelation and I still see major improvement

after each round. Now, the only foods he can eat only in moderation

are eggs, corn, and rice, and he cannot have any preservatives or

artificials. These food issues are getting better as chelation is

progressing [he can have small amounts of those items now, except

preservatives/artificials, every few days and not have problems]. I

don't have to use enzymes any more except with certain supplements. I

recently adjusted some supplements and he has made another major leap

in cognition. It is very nice to see.

When my son was dx by Dr. [name] at age 3-1/2, she said his " best "

prognosis was a group home, if we were lucky, but more probably an

institution. Now, his " worst " prognosis is the group home. He has a

chance to be independent.

You can read my son's story here, if you want.

http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm

There is hope for even the lowest functioning children who did not

regress but were born this way, my son is just one example.

Good luck in finding what your child needs.

Dana

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> Hey all. I'm just having such a hard time lately and my support

group no

> longer meets so I'm hoping I can just " vent " a little here or

perhaps find

> out that there is at least one other person who feels as I do.

Hi , I have been having a hard time lately too, and my son is

much older than yours. Just wanted you to know that you are not

alone. One thing that helps me is to just spend some time alone with

my son, doing something he enjoys, to remind me what a great kid he

is, and remind myself that I am doing the best I can. ((((()))

Lynne in VA

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I am really very sorry things are so difficult right now. I can completely

understand and I have been there myself. We've had such good moments recently

that perhaps for many it seems " not so bad " ( like for my husband). But I recall

many dark moments, and I have never been so grateful that children must ride in

the backseat, because as we left many a Doctor's office, swim lesson,

playground, therapy session, family get together, I would cry on the way home,

and did so freely because ph couldn't see me. My husband left for military

duty for a year, and when he left I thought I'd lose my mind. We'd just gotten

the official diagnosis of autism, celiac's, and IGA deficiency. But, I can

honestly say, it was easier, with him gone. Some may say, no one to lean on, I

can say, no one to fight with ( is the Doctor right, wrong, is this therapy

right, or wrong, is the diet right or wrong, etc.) Some may say, no second

opinion, I can say, no one to try and convince ( no father wants to believe

there is something horribly and devastatingly wrong with his child). Some may

say, no relief of the parenting responsibilities, I can say, I devoted as many

hours a day and night as I chose to ph and his ABA therapy, my research, our

bonding. There was no one at 2am rolling their eyes at me as I read something

new that struck home. When Dr. Goldberg said he could cure ph if he had what

he thought he had, I was excited. When the test results came back positive, I

cried so much I soaked a dish towel. Just sank to floor and sobbed. It was

wonderful, all those black moments in my memory where ph was rejected, my

parenting criticized, ph was in pain, and desperately trying to communicate

with me, they were nothing compared to the black moments to come, with age. I

was now given the hope back that ph would date, have sex, get married, my

dreams for him slowly became a possibility again. You see, right now your child

has You. And You are the most important person in his life. I can only

encourage you to do what worked for me. Use that chronic desperation gnawing at

the pit of your stomach to motivate yourself to get to the bottom of this, use

your occasional anger to prompt some talking back to those so called experts

when they condescend to your parental observations and suspicions about what

might be wrong. Use your painful memories to chart a clear history, because

there is someone somewhere who will one day read what you wrote and say " oh

this sounds like... " .The autism of today is not the autism of yesterday. Every

child is different, so the parent is forced to wade through tons and tons of

research to find out where their child fits in. The reality is, there is hope.

It's a roller coaster ride, and the highs are really high ( that first I love

you from your child, or the first time they interact with another child) and the

lows are really low ( they've bruised your heart and body with their meltdowns).

These babies are telling us something and I encourage you to have faith that God

gave all of us enough strength to figure it out. Sign language helped us

communicate before he became verbal. Not knowing much about your child's medical

issues or history, I can only pray for you. Perhaps if you could share your

child's history or the current things you are doing to help, perhaps there are

other parents who have " been there done that " and can share what worked for

them. Yes, the differences between the neurotypical kids and ours become more

pronounced with age, it has strained many a family and friend relationship for

us, but anytime you want to vent, feel free to e-mail me. There are many on this

message board that helped me through many dark moments. ---- Original Message

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From: Colnes

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Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:48 PM

Subject: OT: having a hard time as son gets older

Hey all. I'm just having such a hard time lately and my support group no

longer meets so I'm hoping I can just " vent " a little here or perhaps find

out that there is at least one other person who feels as I do.

My precious Sammy is going to be 4 next month and I am having such a hard

time these days. First let me say that he has made progress this past year.

If I look back to where he was this time last year, I probably wouldn't

recognize him and I am very happy with that....the thing is, I guess I had

my hopes up that he would have made greater gains this year. When he was

younger, his developmental delays just didn't seem as bad b/c so many kids

develop at different stages. But now that he's getting older, the

differences between where he is in relation to where NT children are at this

age are just getting much more pronounced. I know I know, I know, you should

never compare children but it's so hard when I get together with friends who

all had children around the same time, or worse, later than me. It's hard

not to look at how advanced their children are.

Now I find myself getting depressed and sinking back into that dark place of

" is this as good as he's going to get " and " what's going to happen to him " .

I try so hard to stay away from that place b/c I know you have to take it

one hour at a time but sometimes that just gets so hard and I find myself

looking ahead....

I suppose the fact that I'm PMSing and getting ready to move to a new state

in a few weeks doesn't help. Nor does the fact that Sammy had 3 weeks off

from school and is having a hard time adjusting and that he's been having

some real bad days. I had myself convinced that he was on the mild end of

the spectrum but now I'm thinking differently. I mean he's almost 4, still

mostly nonverbal although he tries so hard (breaks my heart that I cannot

understand him), can't suck from a straw, can't blow bubbles and WILL NOT

try any new foods.

He is so beautiful and I love him so much but I HATE the fact that

everything is so HARD for him. It just breaks my heart. It just isn't fair

that this has happened to our children.

OK, I've taken up enough of your time. I hope to find a support group or

good therapist when I move but in the meantime, am I the only one to go

through these dark phases? I'm guessingf I'm not. How do you allcope with

these feelings?

Thanks for listening. I'm going to go have a good cry now. Maybe that will

help.

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, I feel it to. Allie will be 3 on July 26. I just spoke with

the Power Club, Jr teachers (church for 4-6 yr olds) about me coming

in this Sunday to talk with the kids about autism. I think the

teachers are even excited, hoping I might teach them something about

it, lol. I looked around at all the kids and it hits me once again

how far Allie still has to go. In addition, my cousin has a daughter

4 months younger than Allie and my aunt tells me about all the

things she is doing. I try to sound really excited and positive but

sometimes inside I just want to cry because Allie isn't doing those

same things. But then I have to sit and think about how far we've

come and how great she is doing.

One thing I've done is write poetry about it all. I still cry every

time I read them because it reminds me just how intense my pain was

at those moments. One poem in particular, I'll post at the end of

this, I wrote after meeting the mother of a Rhett's child. She's

been so depressed she doesn't want to come to our autism support

group meetings because she feels her child will only regress while

we talk about positive gains. It made me think about life with my

first daughter, NT, before Allie. Every day was so exciting for us.

I remember every pretty sunset I would call to look and say

something like, " see that sunset. God painted the sky just

for you so you could see how pretty His artwork is. " I realized just

how long it had been since I had been that excited, positive

Spiritual woman for my children. It made me sad that I had let this

experience (which has SO MANY positive attibutes) take my girls'

mother from them.

So, each day I'm trying to do at least one of those things I always

planned on doing before autism, like sit and do art with my girls,

even if I don't feel like it or am preoccupied. I try to make one

statement to each of my girls that will help them see the excitement

of Christ's love, like I used to do. We have been given the

experience of autism and we can either let it distroy us or make us

greater. I still have my days of sadness and I say let a good cry

out and experience the enormity of it all. But I also want to pick

myself up and get on with enjoying my family once again.

Debi

February 28, 2002

3:07pm

I walked in a field, one sunny day in spring

A day quite jubilant, the sound of birds singing

I stumbled upon a nest hidden in the field

It was a little nest with one tiny egg and a meadow lark as its

shield

How the mother bird covered her egg with such love

That meadow lark was so careful, such doating as if from Above

I watched her for quite a time before I left that day

But curious I was, so often to the nest I found my way

The meadowlark offered the world around such joyous melody

It was such pleasure to hear her sing her song of pure glee

And to watch for the baby bird was simply quite exciting

As the meadowlark's gaiety became for me rather inciting

That tiny little egg soon hatched into a baby meadowlark

It's delicacy simply amazing, yet perfect in its creating, with

feathers slightly stark

The meadowlark mother became even more amazing

From morning to night and all times in between tending to the raising

Of her precious baby bird, why she was growing quite nicely

She began to sing her own song and flap her wings precisely

You could hear the pride of the meadowlark mother flowing from her

song

She sang beautiful lyrics that filled ones heart of delight quite

strong

The visits to the nest were wonderful to see

Life was complete for mother and baby, their love a constant decree

But one day my visit wasn't that of constant jubilee

I could not believe what my eyes surely did see

Something was wrong with meadowlark baby

Her little wings were no longer flapping, was she hurt? I didn't

know, maybe

Meadowlark mother was there by her side

" Her baby is okay " I said as I watched the mother reside

Surely it was just an unusually bad day

For this family is perfect, something wrong? No way!

I walked back to the nest just a few short days later

And it became obvious something badly was wrong, at that moment the

fear was never greater

Yes, it was certain the baby could no longer move her wings

And her song forever lost, no more did it bring the joyous rings

And meadowlark mother was there right beside her with her wings

spread around

Meadowlark mother made not one sound

The agony I felt watching such sadness and dismay

My heart was breaking at the sight of the family love astray

As the seasons went by, the baby didn't much improve

And meadowlark mother stayed with her baby, I never saw her move

The other birds in the meadow were all grown and flying now

How it hurt to the core to see meadowlark mother disavow

For she had her little baby that would never learn to fly

And the hurt that it brought must be deep and wide and high

But the sadness that is so tormenting is not just meadowlark baby's

plight

But the quiet that is left in the field that used to be of her song

in might

For the meadow lost not one lark but two

When sickness took the baby bird, it really conquered mother, too

> Hey all. I'm just having such a hard time lately and my support

group no

> longer meets so I'm hoping I can just " vent " a little here or

perhaps find

> out that there is at least one other person who feels as I do.

>

> My precious Sammy is going to be 4 next month and I am having such

a hard

> time these days. First let me say that he has made progress this

past year.

> If I look back to where he was this time last year, I probably

wouldn't

> recognize him and I am very happy with that....the thing is, I

guess I had

> my hopes up that he would have made greater gains this year. When

he was

> younger, his developmental delays just didn't seem as bad b/c so

many kids

> develop at different stages. But now that he's getting older, the

> differences between where he is in relation to where NT children

are at this

> age are just getting much more pronounced. I know I know, I know,

you should

> never compare children but it's so hard when I get together with

friends who

> all had children around the same time, or worse, later than me.

It's hard

> not to look at how advanced their children are.

>

> Now I find myself getting depressed and sinking back into that

dark place of

> " is this as good as he's going to get " and " what's going to happen

to him " .

> I try so hard to stay away from that place b/c I know you have to

take it

> one hour at a time but sometimes that just gets so hard and I find

myself

> looking ahead....

>

> I suppose the fact that I'm PMSing and getting ready to move to a

new state

> in a few weeks doesn't help. Nor does the fact that Sammy had 3

weeks off

> from school and is having a hard time adjusting and that he's been

having

> some real bad days. I had myself convinced that he was on the mild

end of

> the spectrum but now I'm thinking differently. I mean he's almost

4, still

> mostly nonverbal although he tries so hard (breaks my heart that I

cannot

> understand him), can't suck from a straw, can't blow bubbles and

WILL NOT

> try any new foods.

>

> He is so beautiful and I love him so much but I HATE the fact that

> everything is so HARD for him. It just breaks my heart. It just

isn't fair

> that this has happened to our children.

>

> OK, I've taken up enough of your time. I hope to find a support

group or

> good therapist when I move but in the meantime, am I the only one

to go

> through these dark phases? I'm guessingf I'm not. How do you

allcope with

> these feelings?

>

> Thanks for listening. I'm going to go have a good cry now. Maybe

that will

> help.

>

>

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Here's something to think about, too

It is a beautiful day today, birds chirping and the air so gently

warm

I went to get my Allie from school, just part of our daily norm

Then I remembered the words to that special song

And yet again my heart so began to long

As the words once again I rehearsed in my heart

For all the other childrens' mother's my soul was ripped apart

I became torn between the need to finish our work on this earth

And the longing to see the promised eternal rebirth

The words of the song, they spoke of every parent and every child

And the final end of the afflictions in our children that we have so

reviled

" I can only imagine when that day comes and I find myself standing

in the sun "

The vision I held wasn't one of just seeing our Jesus alone

But being surrounded with each child from that school, no more

heartache, no more groans

I have the event in my head, I keep planning each detail

Of every child at school I meet and the celebration of the end of

their lifelong jail

The children who could never walk I think they will be the ones who

will dance all about

The little boy who could never learn to speak, yes I hear him

singing halleluiah with a shout

The beautiful girl whose legs never straightened enough to stand,

she will be hand-in-hand, walking with our Master, bouncing all about

And the parents? Oh us parents, how our pain will be forever slain

Our nights of endless crying, or days of deep dispair, our lives of

longing for our children's health

It ends at this moment with forever wealth

I'm quite certain the role us parents will play

On our faces we will fall

We will speak not at all

Because the vision of our babies that will be our gift

Our hearts will beat full, no longer with a rift

From our Master's love we'll have The Eternal present

He'll give us that will never be spent

--Debi Haney

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>

>

>

> > Hey all. I'm just having such a hard time lately and my support

> group no

> > longer meets so I'm hoping I can just " vent " a little here or

> perhaps find

> > out that there is at least one other person who feels as I do.

> >

>

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> Here's something to think about, too

>

> It is a beautiful day today, birds chirping and the air so gently

> warm

just pays to stop and take time out occasionally with the

beauty.........................

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Debi,

You should consider publishing a book of poems and donating the profits

to research or autism related. This one brought tears streaming down my

face when I read it.

Just my two cents

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Here's something to think about, too

It is a beautiful day today, birds chirping and the air so gently

warm

I went to get my Allie from school, just part of our daily norm

Then I remembered the words to that special song

And yet again my heart so began to long

As the words once again I rehearsed in my heart

For all the other childrens' mother's my soul was ripped apart

I became torn between the need to finish our work on this earth

And the longing to see the promised eternal rebirth

The words of the song, they spoke of every parent and every child

And the final end of the afflictions in our children that we have so

reviled

" I can only imagine when that day comes and I find myself standing

in the sun "

The vision I held wasn't one of just seeing our Jesus alone

But being surrounded with each child from that school, no more

heartache, no more groans

I have the event in my head, I keep planning each detail

Of every child at school I meet and the celebration of the end of

their lifelong jail

The children who could never walk I think they will be the ones who

will dance all about

The little boy who could never learn to speak, yes I hear him

singing halleluiah with a shout

The beautiful girl whose legs never straightened enough to stand,

she will be hand-in-hand, walking with our Master, bouncing all about

And the parents? Oh us parents, how our pain will be forever slain

Our nights of endless crying, or days of deep dispair, our lives of

longing for our children's health

It ends at this moment with forever wealth

I'm quite certain the role us parents will play

On our faces we will fall

We will speak not at all

Because the vision of our babies that will be our gift

Our hearts will beat full, no longer with a rift

From our Master's love we'll have The Eternal present

He'll give us that will never be spent

--Debi Haney

>

>

>

>

> > Hey all. I'm just having such a hard time lately and my support

> group no

> > longer meets so I'm hoping I can just " vent " a little here or

> perhaps find

> > out that there is at least one other person who feels as I do.

> >

>

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Feel free to 'vent' or be emotion as needed. It happens.

I remember when my son was 3 and 4. I would take him to preschool

and watch him get settled into class (there was a big window to the

class). Sometimes I would just stand there with tears streaming down

my face because it was sooooo obvious he wasn't like the other 20

kids. He would sit in a chair at the end of a table at the end of

the room and start bouncing his head on his blanket while all the

other kids ran for assorted toys. I was soooo sad for him.

But you know there is progress and progress continues. My son was 5

before he made his first 'jump' in recovery. Then again at 7. Then

again at 9. Good think I didn't listen to the popular 'autism/diet

talk' at that time which commonly said that if they aren't recovered

by age 5, then your window of opportunity was over. You just never

know what will happen. Houston enzymes weren't even available before

he was 9. He is 11 now and a brilliant pleasure. I don't worry about

his future at all. I do worry about the rest of the world being able

to keep up with him though, LOL.

We spent fourth of July watching the Planet of the Apes marathon. I

hadn't seen them all. About the fourth movie, blurts

out... " These are pretty cool but when are they going to make 'Planet

of the Apes Reloaded' ?! " He is such a boy.

Sometimes it is nice to just kick back and enjoy the time at hand

instead of constant researching, analyzing, therapies, yada, yada.

This time will not come again. It is too much to run at top speed on

end without a break.

It is also summer and the temperature increases. I don't know about

you but this is my worse time of the year. I can't hardly breathe

above 85 degrees and my migraines peak out. So it could very well be

related to coming down off a rigorous school year of therapies and

the summer season.

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I've looked into it. So far, no publishers interested. If you know

of anyone, I'd be happy to work out something!

Debi

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> > > out that there is at least one other person who feels as I do.

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