Guest guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 Hello everyone. An update to those that can appreciate this situation. Being GFCF and then GFCFSF and then down to chicken, potatoes, water and pork only, we are expanding! At first with enzymes ( post adjustment period) we got back so many fruits, vegetables, soy, cocoa, it was great. Then we started the challenges. First it was oats. A couple of months later it was cheerios and most recently honey nut cheerios. We went grocery shopping yesterday and we bought, crackers, honey nut cheerios and regular pasta. It was liberating. We still had to read the labels to avoid BHT, dextrose, and various other preservatives, but it was great. Wheat is back. The pasta was semolina (which is a grass grain and a no no on the GFCF diet). We had the pasta last night. No reaction. Today, no reaction. We'll go a few weeks before we introduce anything else new. Scary but exciting stuff for us. I've learned too much to ever just blindly pick up a product in the store without reading the label, but I'm so excited! We were GFCF for almost three years. To say that I am grateful for the Houston enzymes would be an understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2003 Report Share Posted July 6, 2003 I'm looking forward to these liberating days, but for now am really cautious. My son has high IgGs - wheat (4), cheese (3), egg (3), and some others. Has anyone with high IgGs gone back to a " regular " diet with enzymes (or without)? We have had a restricted diet for 8 months now, avoiding all foods where the tests came back 3 or higher. However, I have also restricted other grains that didn't come back positive on the tests (e.g., oat and barley), thinking that a gluten intolerance wouldn't necessarily show up on IgG testing. I feel overly cautious when I read this type of post, and especially considering that we are using enzymes with each meal, even without planned infractions. I'm hoping for gut healing, and since things have been going fairly well here, I don't want to rock the boat. Kathy it or not. > > My son has been off the diet with enzymes for over two years and is > much healthier now. I'm still disappointed this option is not given > by many autism bio-medical " experts " because it appears to be a > BETTER option than removing long lists of foods for certain kids like > mine and yours. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Congratulations! when you introduce dairy, go heavy on good yoghurt. We found this improved gut health enormously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 If you don't feel good about challenging the diet, don't. We had good reasons to challenge it. We had our first tests done by Alletess Medical Lab for gluten and casein only. I received the test results and called the lab for interpretation at that time. They told me my son's results for gluten were in the " high " range and casein was also " high " . Five months later I had the Comprehensive Food Panel done through Great Plains and had numerous ones. Many foods that became a big problem later did not show up on the food panel, so I discovered that the best allergy test for my child was to remove a food, observe behavior, add the food back, observe behavior again. I've been told the IgG type of testing is 80% accurate. It was helpful for us because it encouraged me to look at diet issues (which later became enzyme issues). > I'm looking forward to these liberating days, but for now am really > cautious. My son has high IgGs - wheat (4), cheese (3), egg (3), and > some others. Has anyone with high IgGs gone back to a " regular " diet > with enzymes (or without)? We have had a restricted diet for 8 > months now, avoiding all foods where the tests came back 3 or > higher. However, I have also restricted other grains that didn't > come back positive on the tests (e.g., oat and barley), thinking that > a gluten intolerance wouldn't necessarily show up on IgG testing. I > feel overly cautious when I read this type of post, and especially > considering that we are using enzymes with each meal, even without > planned infractions. I'm hoping for gut healing, and since things > have been going fairly well here, I don't want to rock the boat. > Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 You're exactly right. Supplements making up for foods missing in the diet, expensive supplements, expensive specialty gluten and casein free foods, and yet you watch your child get thinner and thinner. It's sickening to watch. The dark circles under the eyes scared me the most, a good indicator of malnourishment. Re: Grocery Shopping Chicken, potatoes, water and pork: you had us beat! We had several more foods than than that left before enzymes, but still entering a frightening stage of feeling like we were running out of options. Obviously, much more than just gluten and casein caused my son and your son problems. I suspect many other kids are the same way, whether the parents have addressed it or not. My son has been off the diet with enzymes for over two years and is much healthier now. I'm still disappointed this option is not given by many autism bio-medical " experts " because it appears to be a BETTER option than removing long lists of foods for certain kids like mine and yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 There are so many to choose from, and I was never a big yogurt person to begin with, which would you suggest? Re: Grocery Shopping Congratulations! when you introduce dairy, go heavy on good yoghurt. We found this improved gut health enormously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 You're exactly right to be cautious. We were on this diet for almost three years. We did a lot in that time to heal his gut, the tea, probiotics, vitamins, the diet itself. ph had off the chart reactions to the casein and gluten the first time we did the tests. That was three years ago. More recently we reran the tests, came back a little high this time to egg and peanuts, but not significantly so. I'm anxious to see the tests a year from now, when the viral and other intestinal issues have been set right. We challenge one thing at a time. Had I gone whole hog, I might have thought the No Fenol didn't work just because ph still has a reaction to orange juice and bananas. But the No-Fenol does work, just like the others, except for the orange juice and bananas in ph's case. BHT and dextrose are still no-nos, we have nasty reactions to those, so we avoid them. Nitrites and nitrates are still not tolerated, so we don't allow processed meats like hot dogs, bacon, etc. I applaud you for being cautious, I wish there were more parents out there that were as cautious. It still irritates me to see whiny, screaming, non-verbal 2 year olds with red inflamed eczema riddled cheeks, clutching a bottle filled with milk. You can suggest taking milk or other potential offenders out of the diet to people, but so many just don't want to be bothered. Your child is very lucky to have you as a parent. Re: Grocery Shopping I'm looking forward to these liberating days, but for now am really cautious. My son has high IgGs - wheat (4), cheese (3), egg (3), and some others. Has anyone with high IgGs gone back to a " regular " diet with enzymes (or without)? We have had a restricted diet for 8 months now, avoiding all foods where the tests came back 3 or higher. However, I have also restricted other grains that didn't come back positive on the tests (e.g., oat and barley), thinking that a gluten intolerance wouldn't necessarily show up on IgG testing. I feel overly cautious when I read this type of post, and especially considering that we are using enzymes with each meal, even without planned infractions. I'm hoping for gut healing, and since things have been going fairly well here, I don't want to rock the boat. Kathy it or not. > > My son has been off the diet with enzymes for over two years and is > much healthier now. I'm still disappointed this option is not given > by many autism bio-medical " experts " because it appears to be a > BETTER option than removing long lists of foods for certain kids like > mine and yours. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2003 Report Share Posted July 7, 2003 Horray!! I remember walking into a grocery store when my daughter was gfcf and feeling like I couldn't breathe. It was so overwhelming looking at all the foods she couldn't eat and I hated it. I have so much fun now (she has been off the diet for 1 1/2 years on Houston's enzymes) buying her all her favorites!! --- In , " Mattson " <amattson@b...> wrote: > Hello everyone. An update to those that can appreciate this situation. Being GFCF and then GFCFSF and then down to chicken, potatoes, water and pork only, we are expanding! At first with enzymes ( post adjustment period) we got back so many fruits, vegetables, soy, cocoa, it was great. Then we started the challenges. First it was oats. A couple of months later it was cheerios and most recently honey nut cheerios. We went grocery shopping yesterday and we bought, crackers, honey nut cheerios and regular pasta. It was liberating. We still had to read the labels to avoid BHT, dextrose, and various other preservatives, but it was great. Wheat is back. The pasta was semolina (which is a grass grain and a no no on the GFCF diet). We had the pasta last night. No reaction. Today, no reaction. We'll go a few weeks before we introduce anything else new. Scary but exciting stuff for us. I've learned too much to ever just blindly pick up a product in the store without reading the label, but I'm so excited! We were GFCF for almost three years. To say that I am grateful for the Houston enzymes would be an understatement. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 Of course I have no idea how successful this is across your way, but here in the UK I still do not use it more than once in a blue moon. Many of the major supermarkets will deliver, but their websites are often difficult to navigate, and the trouble is, I'm a bargain shopper. While there are things where I'll always buy the same one (such as Ecover washing up liquid - environmentally friendly, and neither of us are allergic to it), a lot of stuff I just buy whatever happens to be on special. Trouble is, for whatever reason, while the stores seldom run out, the warehouses they use to run the deliveries from *always* seem to run out. And the people who pick alternatives are idiots!! For example, Mr Kipling cake bars, 3 for 2, order Bakewells, Country Slices and Lemon Slices - say Bakewells are out of stock, will they send a second of one of the others you've ordered, or even a different one from the same offer? Oh no, they'll send you own brand Bakewells. I've yet to get decent fruit or veg, and heaven forbid you want something from the bakery. They list it all, but the warehouses don't have bakeries, so you're very unlikely to get it. So in the end I was very relieved to get back to shopping once I was recovered enough! That said, my friend who has severe psoriatic arthritis wouldn't be able to cope if he couldn't order his shopping in. They drive him mad, and he much prefers it when we're able to visit and take him out for shopping so that he can actually get what he wants, but at least it means he can maintain his independence. To me it goes on the pile named " necessary evil " . Of course, it could well be a lot better where you are, and I really hope that it is. titch-- Something unknown is doing we don't know what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2006 Report Share Posted January 1, 2006 No, but I certainly do use their "mart cart" (those electrical things that you sit on). I prefer my own but, if I am alone, I might take a chance on theirs. They are just noisier and slower, is all! Try 'em! Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Have you ever complained to Head Office about their website ordering? They may not realize that their services is less than satisfactory. If that doesn't work, then if you have a Better Business organization, you might want to let them know so they can let others know. Even the government might be interested in your feedback, since it could affect the company in getting their business license renewed. Llweyn -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of oojackapivvySent: January 1, 2006 4:20 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Grocery Shopping Of course I have no idea how successful this is across your way, but here in the UK I still do not use it more than once in a blue moon. Many of the major supermarkets will deliver, but their websites are often difficult to navigate, and the trouble is, I'm a bargain shopper. While there are things where I'll always buy the same one (such as Ecover washing up liquid - environmentally friendly, and neither of us are allergic to it), a lot of stuff I just buy whatever happens to be on special. Trouble is, for whatever reason, while the stores seldom run out, the warehouses they use to run the deliveries from *always* seem to run out. And the people who pick alternatives are idiots!! For example, Mr Kipling cake bars, 3 for 2, order Bakewells, Country Slices and Lemon Slices - say Bakewells are out of stock, will they send a second of one of the others you've ordered, or even a different one from the same offer? Oh no, they'll send you own brand Bakewells. I've yet to get decent fruit or veg, and heaven forbid you want something from the bakery. They list it all, but the warehouses don't have bakeries, so you're very unlikely to get it. So in the end I was very relieved to get back to shopping once I was recovered enough! That said, my friend who has severe psoriatic arthritis wouldn't be able to cope if he couldn't order his shopping in. They drive him mad, and he much prefers it when we're able to visit and take him out for shopping so that he can actually get what he wants, but at least it means he can maintain his independence. To me it goes on the pile named "necessary evil". Of course, it could well be a lot better where you are, and I really hope that it is. titch-- Something unknown is doing we don't know what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Thank you Casey, I have considered online grocery shopping with Safeway a few times, it is where I shop anyway, but I figured it would be at lot more expensive than that, so I never went ahead with it. It sounds even better now. I belong to Kaiser Permanente here and you just walk in and sometimes right back out, I just haven't figured out when the slowest part of the day is. LOL Janet in Ca -------------- Original message -------------- From: casey <denise05775@...> > i am feeling lucky about having Group Health. i walk into clinic on the way home > from work, pull a number and i wait maybe 5 min. go in they draw blood and i > leave. im in clinic 15 min tops.and i can help with the grocery problem. safeway > and albertsons both have delivery. you go online do your grocery shopping and > pick a delivery time. cost between $7-$10 dollars but so worth it. they will > bring it into the kitchen and put it away for you if you ask and they dont take > tips. i work for a large grocery company but sometimes i just cant deal with the > shopping and i go online with the competition. ive been doing it for about 2 > years now. anyone out there who has trouble at the grocery store needs to try > this. it is painless......casey > > >> > > > > Please visit our Psoriatic Arthritis Group's informational web page at: > http://www.wpunj.edu/pa/ -- created and edited by list member > aka(raharris@...). > > Also,in August 2001,list member Jack aka Cornishpro@... began to > conduct extensive research which he publishes as the " Psoriatic Arthritis > Research Newsletter " , monthly in our email and digest format. Many thanks to > Jack. Back issues of the newsletter are stored on our PA webpage as well as the > archives of the list. > > Don't forget that the list archives comprise a tremendous amount of information > (Over three years of messages and answers).Feel free to browse them at your > convenience. > > LET'S HEAR FROM SOME OF YOU LURKERS out there! If you have a comment or > question, chances are there is a person who has been around a while who can help > you out with AT LEAST an educated guess for an answer! If not,we can steer you > in the right direction with a good website to go to, > > Blessings and Peace, > > Atwood-Stack, Founder > Alan , Web & List Editor > Jack , Newsletter Editor > Pat Bias, List Editor > Ron Dotson, List Editor > Orin, List Editor > Kathy F., List Editor > and any others who help in any way (thank you!) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I'll second the recommendation of Safeway.com. I use them for all of our heavy stuff (liquids). Worth every penny. Re: [ ] Re: Grocery shopping Thank you Casey, I have considered online grocery shopping with Safeway a few times, it is where I shop anyway, but I figured it would be at lot more expensive than that, so I never went ahead with it. It sounds even better now. I belong to Kaiser Permanente here and you just walk in and sometimes right back out, I just haven't figured out when the slowest part of the day is. LOL Janet in Ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I love to get the free delivery postcards for Safeway.com, it is great. I used it when I was confined with a broken leg. It really is nice, they deliver it to the kitchen table and then go over the invoice with you. I really liked to be able to have an accurate grocery dollar amount to plus or minus before I entered the order. In our city Safeway is an expensive store, but not if you shop the sales and use free delivery when you get the chance. Try it....You'll like it. Gentle Hugs & Prayers Carol M. in CA @>~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Are you talking about going shopping??? You can also if disabled, have a helper come in once a month or week even depending on your approval have them take you shopping or go shopping for you they usually give you about two hours to have that person shop for you or help around the house... Might want to look into that... Love and Peace Always, Shaun & Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Wow, I don't think I have ever received a safeway.com pamplet, but then I am unsure where they are here in this area... I think closest would be el paso Texas over the boarder here... I could get someone to come out and deliver but since me and barb do those things together, its not a big deal right now... I just use the riding carts when I am too bad off and cant walk all that well... Love and Peace Always, Shaun & Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Safeway isn't the only place that does delivery. If you're in the northern US, Jewel has Peapod service: you go online and order for yourself, and then they deliver it to your home. Like Safeway, it can be expensive, but if you shop the sales and use coupons, you should be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Here in New Mexico they have like Albertsons, Sams, Walmart... I don't know if they do that at all... Love and Peace Always, Shaun and Barb... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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