Re: O/T Anyone Using SpectrumComplete?

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Hi

I'm not using it yet but I did get a sample to try when I ordered my DMSA.

I'm going to try it out over half term when I can watch him closely, the

staff in his new class are no where near as descriptive as they were in early

years class in the home-school daily diary. I'm looking at the data sheet now

to compare with what Andy C would normally recommend. For sure there is good

range in there, kind of like BCN but without the herbs. Andy recommends 4 x

daily dosing I would need more time to figure out but on a quick look I'd

likely still add to it, at least on chelating days. Sam's diet is still quite

limited so I do still supplement quite alot although only a little B complex.

Milk Thistle is one that jumps out as having to add as extra. Worth a shot,

whilst I can keep track of all the separates Dh gets completely lost, so this

would would help in out house. I'll let you know how we get on.

Mandi in UK

> I am looking for a good multi for my daughter(She does not swallow

> pills) and I want to get her established on one before starting

> chelation. Curious if anyone uses this and how it works? My

> daughter couldn't tolerate the high B bit in SuperNuThera after

> starting enzymes, but this isn't as high. Those chelating-are the

> amounts about right for supplementing? Thanks.

>

>

>

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Three days of Spectrum Complete and I'm about to pull my hair out.

Multi's make her crazy. Any other brand ideas?

[Guest guest]

Hi Shonna-- gosh, the only thing I can think of is to perhaps start

supplementing things individually and work up-- definitely start a

gut protocol-- as I sent you in my last msg, it could be yeast... but

you could start trying just some magnesium citrate-- I think you're

already doing EFA's and enzymes and epsom salt baths, right? Maybe

just try adding a little magnesium into her routine-- magnesium

SHOULD have a calming effect. With Ethan, he had that initial

hyperness but over time, with working on the gut AND going slow AND

using Ojibwa Tea of Life, then his body was able to accept more

supplements. I really do think the Ojibwa Tea of Life was what

cleaned out enough toxins so that when I started supplements again--

he didn't have that hyper reaction anymore. He still doesn't take

large amounts of supp's, but there was a dramatic change in his

ability to tolerate them once we had been on the tea for a while.

So you might want to try that www.ojibwatea.com

W

> Three days of Spectrum Complete and I'm about to pull my hair out.

> Multi's make her crazy. Any other brand ideas?

[Guest guest]

>>>> Three days of Spectrum Complete and I'm about to pull my hair

out. Multi's make her crazy.

I wasn't gonna say anything...but...I have heard this often enough,

and it may be more common with those having phenol difficulties. So

this may be related to a phenol processing issue, or those

more 'toxic'.

>>>Any other brand ideas?

Animal Parade seems to be fairly well tolerated (and one of the few

that I think taste good). At health food stores. Or try Freeda

Vitamins. They are ultra 'pure' and have a children's line. That

brand is super popular with the Feingold group - I mention that

because the Feingold program is for those who are phenol-sensitive,

and those people appear to tolerate Freeda well.

www.freedavitamins.com

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-Hi ,

I use Spectrum Complete for my son with good results. I did start

off with the full dose, and then cut it back to half the daily dose

because of some " weepy,whiny " behavior. In the past, ALL multi-

vitamins, SuperNuThera, chewables, gummis, exacerbated these

behaviors.

For about two days now, I've upped the dose by a 1/4 tsp, which

brings him close to the recommendation. So far, so good.

I do give him a bit of No-phenol with his morning concoction though,

so maybe this helps balance him out also. I've gotten good reports

from school these past few weeks, even to the point of better co-

operation during math time. A biggie for him, to be sure!

We don't chelate at this time so I can't help with that. But for now

at least, we'll stay with the Spectrum Complete as part of his daily

supps. Hope this helps. Kim

-- In , " david_j_mead

<david_j_mead@y...> " <david_j_mead@y...> wrote:

> I am looking for a good multi for my daughter(She does not swallow

> pills) and I want to get her established on one before starting

> chelation. Curious if anyone uses this and how it works? My

> daughter couldn't tolerate the high B bit in SuperNuThera after

> starting enzymes, but this isn't as high. Those chelating-are the

> amounts about right for supplementing? Thanks.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>>I do give him a bit of No-phenol with his morning concoction

though, so maybe this helps balance him out also.

Hey, that's a good idea! Put a little No-Fenol with it and maybe

that will balance out whatever phenol-thing maybe going on.

Thanks, Kim,

.

[Guest guest]

> Three days of Spectrum Complete and I'm about to pull my hair out.

> Multi's make her crazy. Any other brand ideas?

Don't give a multivitamin. Maybe she just doesn't need one.

Dana

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For my son, any multivitamin with a high dose of B6 made him super hyper. I

now use Yummi Bears. 4 of them give you only 50% of most of the vitamins,

which I think is a safe route for us now. And then I give extra of the

vitamins I think he could use which wouldn't put him over the edge.

Debbie

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-I wasn't gonna say anything...but...I have heard this often enough,

and it may be more common with those having phenol difficulties. So

this may be related to a phenol processing issue, or those

more 'toxic'.

You are probably right...I will check out the Freeda vits. I

remember you mentioning this before now. Probaby we would run into

the same troubles we wound up having with SNT...it started right

before enzymes (probably phenolic since that all started at the same

time...) then the vitB was too much with enzymes. I just want to get

my ducks in a row prior to trying chelation.

(always preferring that you DO say

something lol...even if its in a private email!!) -

- In , " jornmatt <kjorn@t...> "

<kjorn@t...> wrote:

> >>>> Three days of Spectrum Complete and I'm about to pull my hair

> out. Multi's make her crazy.

>

> I wasn't gonna say anything...but...I have heard this often enough,

> and it may be more common with those having phenol difficulties. So

> this may be related to a phenol processing issue, or those

> more 'toxic'.

>

> >>>Any other brand ideas?

>

> Animal Parade seems to be fairly well tolerated (and one of the few

> that I think taste good). At health food stores. Or try Freeda

> Vitamins. They are ultra 'pure' and have a children's line. That

> brand is super popular with the Feingold group - I mention that

> because the Feingold program is for those who are phenol-sensitive,

> and those people appear to tolerate Freeda well.

>

> www.freedavitamins.com

>

> .

[Guest guest]

Hey, that's a good idea! Put a little No-Fenol with it and maybe

that will balance out whatever phenol-thing maybe going on.

Yes, this had worked with other things...NF wasn't out yet when we

discontinued the SNT, but we have since reintroduced TMG which she

seemed to have developed phenolic issues with and she has been great

on that at a much smaller dose than before. I will still look into

Freeda though I think....

---

In , " jornmatt <kjorn@t...> "

<kjorn@t...> wrote:

> >>>I do give him a bit of No-phenol with his morning concoction

> though, so maybe this helps balance him out also.

>

> Hey, that's a good idea! Put a little No-Fenol with it and maybe

> that will balance out whatever phenol-thing maybe going on.

>

> Thanks, Kim,

> .

[Guest guest]

-Don't give a multivitamin. Maybe she just doesn't need one.

Isn't it pretty much necessary for chelation though? This is why I

am thinking about it. We don't use one now. I am afraid I'd get lost

trying to add them all one at a time.

-- In

, " danaatty <danaatty@y...> "

<danaatty@y...> wrote:

>

> > Three days of Spectrum Complete and I'm about to pull my hair

out.

> > Multi's make her crazy. Any other brand ideas?

>

>

> Don't give a multivitamin. Maybe she just doesn't need one.

>

> Dana

[Guest guest]

> -Don't give a multivitamin. Maybe she just doesn't need one.

>

> Isn't it pretty much necessary for chelation though?

Not in my opinion.

But of course you can have a different opinion =)

I don't give my kids any multi-vitamins, and we are on round 53. They

are all doing great. I do ensure they get some amount of vitamin C

with each dose of chelator, it is included in the cal/mag/zinc I use.

Dana