Re: GSE is not the same as grapefruit!

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on 2/3/03 9:11 PM, Dave Asprey at dave@... wrote:

> Hello,

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> I've seen several comments about GSE having the same effects as

> grapefruit on the metabolism of drugs.

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> This seems highly likely, as the extract is made from seeds, not flesh,

> and it is the flesh that causes problems with drugs. I've been using

> GSE (up to 100 drops a day for several weeks at a time) and it has been

> a lifesaver for me. It was one of the first things I tried that really

> helped. I have had no side effects with any drugs, and I take a lot of

> them! I also recall seeing something from the manufacturer saying GSE

> does not have the side effects of whole grapefruit or grapefruit juice,

> but I can't find it.

>

> I would hate for some kids to lose out on the benefits of this wonderful

> stuff - it helped my digestion immensely, my joints started to hurt

> less, and my brain cleared up considerably. I started with a few drops

> and learned that about 30 drops in a 16 oz glass of water, 2-3x/day, was

> right for me if I was eating poorly. Now, I put about 15 drops in a

> whey protein smoothie with actual fruit! (until recently, I couldn't

> eat any fruit because of the yeast it caused) I use whey because it is

> highly bioavailable and I have a good source (LEF). I mix in two

> Peptizyme's to deal with any remaining casein, and it doesn't cause the

> problems other whey powders do.

>

> GSE is truly a wonderdrug.

>

> Thanks,

> Dave

>

> Dave Asprey

> dave@...

> www.asprey.net

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Hi Donna,

You're welcome! I wasted 23 years before I knew anything, and really

only got dialed in about 2-3 years ago. It would be a crime to not

share what I spent 6 or 7 years learning...

If GSE helped, you would do well to get some Lugol's Iodine and do 1-3

drops in a glass of water (not juice) 1-3x/day for a week or so,

followed by probiotics. It will kill almost everything nasty in the

digestive tract, including stubborn strep and fungal things that don't

die easily. If he gets too much, the symptom will be a runny, watery

nose. Do some research, you can test whether he is iodine deficient by

painting it on his skin and seeing how quickly it disappears. But aside

from dealing with deficiency, it is a great contact disinfectant for the

GI tract. I would say it is 5x as effective as GSE, but not good for

long term use like GSE is. I am so happy I can now eat fruit every day

without having room-clearing digestive problems...I can even have

sucrose, but I don't often since it helps bacteria grow. Xylitol is

just as good.

As far as GFCF, I may have wheat once per month, if that. I take 3-4

peptizymes with it which definitely helps, but does not stop the

symptoms. It just lessens them. If I also do GSE, then wait a while,

and do Lugols, my digestion usually survives intact. Before that combo,

a bite of wheat meant 3 days of very foul gas and brain fog/low energy.

Basically, when I eat wheat, within 5 minutes, I feel a " shift " in my

brain, kind of like the room got bigger and then returned to normal

size. The closest I can describe is the very first thing you feel when

you eat psychedelic mushrooms (which I had once in Amsterdam - I have

used shrooms and pot in Amsterdam only, no other illegal drugs ever).

After about 10 minutes, my heart rate increases dramatically and I feel

a bit of a rush, probably blood pressure. Then, about 10 mintues

later, I start to feel tired and want coffee really bad. And then I

feel compelled to eat more wheat, I could eat a whole loaf of bread at

once in a restaurant... I can tell you that if you're going to cheat,

do it all at once and get it out of the way, it's much better that way

than doing one piece of bread per day for 2 days. That will get you

hooked again and day 3 will be a day of cravings. Gluten is a drug.

I do cheat more often on casein, I can tolerate small amounts, like some

cheese. It's only when I eat something with concetrated casein (like a

shake) or even a glass of milk or cottage cheese that I have mental

problems. I can also tolerate heavy whipping cream (no canned crap!).

I whip it with xylitol and vanilla for desert, or pour it in coffee, or

mix it with water to make " very low casein milk. " A caveat -

pasteurization does not kill the stuff that grows in milk, so I get far

fewer GI effects if I briefly boil the cream before I eat it, it is a

90% reduction. Fresh cream still causes a little bit of mucus/post

nasal, but not too bad, especially with enzymes. Boiled is pretty much

fine, but doesn't taste as good. If eggs are ok, you can make great

home made ice cream with heavy cream, egg yolks, xylitol, and flavoring.

On par with Ben & Jerry's of HageenDaaz. I am fortunate to not have a

phenol problem that I can identify, although I have tried no phenol

enzymes. I love berries and often choose them if I'm going to have

fruit (which is basically natural candy.)

Best of luck - cc: me when you post so I know to answer; I don't always

read all postings.

Thanks,

Dave

Dave Asprey

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www.asprey.net

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Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 08:39:19 -0800 (PST)

From: and Donna Holtz <dgholtz@...>

Subject: Re: GSE is not the same as grapefruit!

Hi Dave-

I just wanted to thank you for your input...I find it so helpful to

" hear " what you have to say about the things you have found that help

you feel better. My son's expressive language is not very good

(although improving everyday) and I'm always worrying about how certain

things make him feel...we started him on GSE a couple of weeks ago, just

a drop a day...wanted to go slow and easy, I can see the difference just

that small amount is doing!!! (hopefully, it will also be a remedy for

the chronic strep)

Also, a while back you had mentioned in one of your responses, the

relief you have not being " high on gluten " Are you totally GFCG, or do

you " cheat " every once in a while, knowing you have the enzymes to

support your infractions??? Would you indulge me while I ask if you

could explain to me the feeling you would have when you did eat wheat?

Thank you so much. Look forward to your response!

Regards-

Donna